2010 NCAA Mock Tournament Selection Committee

[ISUCubsFan]

So Kansas State goes to Oklahoma City pod then right? That's the only one I think is a reasonable assumption off the top of my head.

Yeah, that seems like a given at this point unless Baylor passes them.

 

Using the current S-Curve, giving the highest seed priority, and placing them as close as possible to home (using Google maps) I come up with:

 

Kansas - Oklahoma City

Syracuse - Buffalo

Kentucky - Milwaukee

Duke - Jacksonville

West Virginia - Buffalo

Ohio State - Milwaukee

Kansas State - Oklahoma City

Purdue - New Orleans

Villanova - Providence

Wisconsin - New Orleans

New Mexico - San Jose

Baylor - Jacksonville

Michigan State - Providence

Pittsburgh - Spokane

Butler - Spokane

Tennessee - San Jose

 

Flipping a few locations at the bottom might decrease total travel distance though.

[bukie]

Let's go with what we know:

 

- Kansas has got to be a lock for the top overall seed at this point, no matter what else happens.

- Syracuse we'll leave at #2 overall unless Duke wins the ACC tourney (which is very possible).

- Kentucky will be 4th overall, possibly passing Duke if they win.

- WVU may still be in the mix if they win the Big East tourney.

 

As for regions:

Kansas goes to the Midwest region in St. Louis, MO.

#2 will go to Syracuse, NY unless it's Syracuse. #4 will be Salt Lake City, UT. Syracuse will go to the South region in Houston, TX.

Duke slotted #3 currently will be sent to the East region in Syracuse, NY.

Kentucky at #4 will be sent to the West region in Salt Lake City, UT.

 

As for pods:

Thursday-Saturday pods:

New Orleans, LA

Providence, RI

San Jose, CA

Oklahoma City, OK

 

Friday-Sunday pods:

Buffalo, NY

Jacksonville, FL

Milwaukee, WI

Spokane, WA

[bukie]

So Kansas State goes to Oklahoma City pod then right? That's the only one I think is a reasonable assumption off the top of my head.

Yeah, that seems like a given at this point unless Baylor passes them.

 

Using the current S-Curve, giving the highest seed priority, and placing them as close as possible to home (using Google maps) I come up with:

 

Kansas - Oklahoma City

Syracuse - Buffalo

Kentucky - Milwaukee

Duke - Jacksonville

West Virginia - Buffalo

Ohio State - Milwaukee

Kansas State - Oklahoma City

Purdue - New Orleans

Villanova - Providence

Wisconsin - New Orleans

New Mexico - San Jose

Baylor - Jacksonville

Michigan State - Providence

Pittsburgh - Spokane

Butler - Spokane

Tennessee - San Jose

 

Flipping a few locations at the bottom might decrease total travel distance though.

 

I'd agree with that pod list. As for putting the 2-4 seeds into regions...

 

2 seeds:

#5 West Virginia is closest to Syracuse, so they should go East.

#6 Ohio State to the Midwest bracket

#7 Kansas State to South

#8 Purdue to West

 

Bracket balance: Midwest: 7, South: 9, East: 8, West: 12

 

3 seeds:

#9 Villanova to West to balance out that weaker bracket a bit

#10 Wisconsin can't go Midwest (Ohio State), so East is next closest

#11 New Mexico is our first western team, and would be best served going west, but the West bracket is already too weak, so South is slightly closer than Midwest, but...

#12 Baylor can't go to the Midwest bracket (top 3 teams in conference must be in separate regions) OR South bracket, SO...Baylor East, NM Midwest, Wisconsin South

 

Bracket balance: Midwest 18, South: 19, East: 20, West: 21

 

4 seeds:

#13 Michigan State can technically go anywhere without violating rules (top 3 Big Ten teams already in the bracket, on opposite side), so we'll toss them West to balance out the bracket.

#14 Pittsburgh can go anywhere but South (Syracuse is there), so we'll toss them East as they're the closest there.

#15 Butler is closest to the Midwest region, so we'll toss them there.

#16 Tennessee is left for the South.

 

Bracket balance: Midwest 33, South 35, East 34, West 34 -- Not bad overall for balance while still following the rules and keeping as many teams close to home as possible.

 

Anyone agree/disagree?

[bukie]

Illinois held on for dear life. *exhales*

[bukie]

Also, Virginia Tech lost to Miami.

[bukie]

I'm going to be heading out soon, so I'll post what I'm picturing the bracket to be right now. Feel free to discuss, disagree, suggest moving teams around, etc as much as you like, none of this is set in stone yet, just a prelim working bracket that's mostly balanced:

 

--------------------------------------
Midwest Region - St. Louis, MO
--------------------------------------
-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
1 Kansas
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Butler
13
5
12

-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
2 Ohio State
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
3 New Mexico
14
6
11

--------------------------------------
West Region - Salt Lake City, UT
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
1 Kentucky
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
4 Michigan State
13
5
12

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
2 Purdue
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
3 Villanova
14
6
11

--------------------------------------
South Region - Houston, TX
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
1 Syracuse
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
4 Tennessee
13
5
12

-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
2 Kansas State
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
3 Wisconsin
14
6
11

--------------------------------------
East Region - Syracuse, NY
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
1 Duke
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Pittsburgh
13
5
12

-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
2 West Virginia
15
7
10

-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
3 Baylor
14
7
10

[snoodmonger]

I know I'm not participating, but if KU is the top one, shouldn't they get the lowest 2? Is tOSU really the worst 2 seed?

[bukie]

I know I'm not participating, but if KU is the top one, shouldn't they get the lowest 2? Is tOSU really the worst 2 seed?

Generally, the committee tries to get teams as close to home as possible in regionals, while at the same time making an attempt to balance the bracket as much as possible. Purdue at this point is likely the lowest 2 seed. With almost zero good teams out west, the more likely scenario is to see KU paired up with the weakest 3/4 seeds to provide an overall balance to the bracket.

 

Or, I could be wrong and Ohio State gets shipped out West and Purdue gets Midwest to keep the brackets more balanced up top.

[Andy]

Can't say I have a quarrel with any of that, although I do think along with snood that the committee generally tries to put the 'weakest' 2 seed with the top 1.

[JockJones]

Damn, Washington down to Oregon State at the half. Does anybody want to make the tournament?

 

Yes. I would love for all these teams to keep losing. And tomorrow I would like San Diego St, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Illinois, Ga Tech, Tulsa, Rhode Island, and Dayton to lose as well. That might just open up a bid for Wichita St. A guy can dream, can't he? :D)

Thank you for our coach, by the way.

 

You're welcome. I loved Turg and still root for him but I wouldn't trade him for Marshall.

[Vanilla Ice]

I think Wisconsin should be moved behind New Mexico in the S-Curve and behind Baylor if they were to beat Kansas State tonight. Agree or disagree?

[Andy]

I think Wisconsin should be moved behind New Mexico in the S-Curve and behind Baylor if they were to beat Kansas State tonight. Agree or disagree?

I don't know about Baylor, but if UNM wins the MWC I don't have a problem with them ahead of Wisconsin.

[bukie]

Not opposed to the changes, although I had Wisconsin a lot higher on my initial list than anyone else, too. I still think they're worthy of their spot.

[Andy]

Not opposed to the changes, although I had Wisconsin a lot higher on my initial list than anyone else, too. I still think they're worthy of their spot.

I had Wisconsin significantly ahead of Baylor (though I may have underrated the Bears).

[Vanilla Ice]

Not opposed to the changes, although I had Wisconsin a lot higher on my initial list than anyone else, too. I still think they're worthy of their spot.

I had Wisconsin significantly ahead of Baylor (though I may have underrated the Bears).

I think Baylor had a case to be ahead of Wisconsin before the loss; I think they should be ahead of them now. I could be persuaded either way.

[bukie]

Lehigh officially took the Patriot league today, so they're officially on the auto bid list.

[bukie]

Dayton and Mississippi State looking good right now. Xavier and Florida, not so much.

[dew1679666265]

Dayton and Mississippi State looking good right now. Xavier and Florida, not so much.

 

Florida's starting to pick it up. 58-52 Miss State

[Vanilla Ice]

That win has got to get Georgia Tech in.

[bukie]

Today's agenda:

 

1 - Bracket construction - Finish placing the top 4 seeds into our bracket, and assign pods for them (in discussion on board today).

2 - Bubble completion - Rank the 16 remaining teams in the bubble in order. SSR and I will put Illinois where we think they should go, but the points associated with them will not count for or against them.

3 - Auto bid ranking - There are 13 unplaced auto bids, and an additional 7 (America East, Big West, MAC, MEAC, Patriot, Southland, SWAC) where none of the teams are even in discussion for a bid. I'll post the data for the highest remaining rated team in each of those tournaments, and I want you to send me a list of all those auto bids (20) ranked in order.

4 - S-Curve continues - Rank me the next 16 teams in order from the at-large and auto bid list (yes, I realize this means you may get, like, St. Mary's or Northern Iowa in two lists, but that's fine). Old Style can include A&M where he thinks they should go and Andy can put ND where he thinks they should go, but as with the bubble list, the points associated with them will not count for nor against them (also TT with Mizzou).

 

So, send me 3 lists by 8am CST tomorrow, and build the top 4 seeds into the bracket with discussion in the thread.

 

Just posting a reminder.

[Andy]

Georgia Tech is probably in, loath as I am to admit it. I hate seeing below-.500 conference teams get in, but GT's resume is too good.

 

SDSU will be in too if they manage to beat UNM.

[SpongeWorthy]

SDSU takes down New Mexico. They're in for sure now.

[bukie]

And now Minnesota beats Michigan State.

[bukie]

Don't forget to send me those lists for tomorrow.

[Andy]

Duke can basically sleepwalk to the ACC title and WVU didn't have to play a seed higher than 7 in the Big East tourney. Assuming both teams get it done, I'm guessing those tournaments won't play one iota into which one of them gets that last 1 seed.