2010 NCAA Mock Tournament Selection Committee

[bukie]

It's 8am and I got 4. Anyone else who is around can get a list to me yet while I'm compiling the info and putting together my list, which I anticipate will take until about 8:30.

[Guest]

My apologies for not being able to help the last couple days, I'll be able to help from here on out.

[bukie]

My lists:

 

Auto-bids:

 

Old Dominion

St. Mary's

Northern Iowa

Cornell

Murray State

Siena

Wofford

MAC

AE

SL

Montana

Oakland

E Tenn St

Robert Morris

North Texas

BW

Winthrop

MEAC

Lehigh

SWAC

 

 

Bubble:

 

California

UNLV

(Illinois)

San Diego State

Georgia Tech

Minnesota

UTEP

Utah State

Washington

Virginia Tech

Mississippi State

Rhode Island

Dayton

Seton Hall

Mississippi

Arizona State

 

 

Tournament 17-32:

 

Texas A&M

Temple

Georgetown

Vanderbilt

Maryland

BYU

Xavier

Texas

Richmond

Notre Dame

Clemson

Wake Forest

Missouri

Oklahoma State

Gonzaga

Florida State

 

[bukie]

My apologies for not being able to help the last couple days, I'll be able to help from here on out.

It's ok, it's a very fluid process the way we do it here, I just don't want it to look like it's all just what I think personally.

[bukie]

Here are today's results:

 

The next 8 spots on the S-Curve (seeds 5-6):

17. Georgetown

18. Temple

19. Maryland

20. Vanderbilt

21. Texas A&M

22. BYU

23. Clemson

24. Texas

 

The bottom 13 spots on the S-Curve (seeds 14-16b):

53. Oakland (Summit)

54. Montana (BSky)

55. Southland winner (Sam Houston State)

56. MAC winner (Ohio)

57. Big West winner (Long Beach)

58. America East winner (Boston U)

59. North Texas (Sun Belt)

60. MEAC winner (Morgan State)

61. East Tennessee St (ASun)

62. Robert Morris (NEC)

63. Winthrop (Big South)

64. Lehigh (Patriot)

65. SWAC winner (Arkansas Pine-Bluff)

 

Now, the bubble. First, a brief explanation: there are still 10 auto bids unaccounted for among lock and bubble teams: ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Conference USA, MWC, Pac-10, SEC and WAC. Now, only 6 of those bids can be won by teams currently in the field, so there are a maximum of 6 bubble spots available. We will go forward assuming the other 4 are won by the highest rated team left in that conference, so here are the 4 auto-bid bubble teams (with the votes they actually received in parentheses):

 

Conference USA - UTEP (12.8)

Pac-10 - California (13)

MWC - UNLV (13.8)

WAC - Utah State (7.6)

 

Which leaves the 6 bubble teams voted in:

Illinois (12.67)

Georgia Tech (12.6)

Virginia Tech (11.8)

San Diego State (11)

Washington (8)

Minnesota (7.2)

 

And just below the bubble cutoff:

Mississippi (5.8)

Seton Hall (5.2)

Rhode Island (4.6)

Mississippi State (4.2)

Arizona State (3.4)

Dayton (2.2)

Edited March 13, 2010 by bukie

[bukie]

So, for today, I only want one list, but it'll be a large one. Send me the teams in order from the remainder of the at-large and auto-bid list (including the 4 assumed auto bid bubble teams and the 6 additional bubble teams).

 

We'll keep an eye on potential bid thefts in the WAC (Nevada), Conference USA (Houston), SEC (Mississippi State), Atlantic-10 (Rhode Island) or ACC (NC State or Miami). The Big East (Georgetown/WVU), Big 12 (Kansas/K-State), Pac-10 (Cal/Washington), MWC (UNLV/San Diego State) and Big Ten (Ohio State/Illinois/Purdue/Minnesota) will be assured of producing an auto-bid from existing at-larges (well, potentially with Minnesota).

[bukie]

Also, in discussion today, filling the brackets for the bottom 3 seeds (taking mostly geography into account...and the play-in game rules), and filling in the 5-6 seeds into the bracket. And, discuss the bottom of the bubble (SDSU/VT/GT/Minn vs. Seton Hall/Miss/Miss St/URI).

[Old Style]

Sorry I didn't get my list in this morning, Last night was pretty crazy and I just got up now hoping to get mine in still. Oh well, I will make sure I get today's list in.

[bukie]

Sorry I didn't get my list in this morning, Last night was pretty crazy and I just got up now hoping to get mine in still. Oh well, I will make sure I get today's list in.

No biggie. Do you have many issues with how things worked out?

[Old Style]

Sorry I didn't get my list in this morning, Last night was pretty crazy and I just got up now hoping to get mine in still. Oh well, I will make sure I get today's list in.

No biggie. Do you have many issues with how things worked out?

No, the only thing that looks a little out of whack to me is Texas as a 6 seed. I fully admit my bias here, but I think 6 is too high. I also expect the real committee to seed them too high, so I'm not too concerned about it.

[bukie]

Here's the updated lists:

 

Current S-Curve (1-24 and 53-65, 37 teams placed overall):

Rank Team               W  L  top25  26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS   R+N
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  1 Kansas            29  2    8-0    2-2   10-0     5-0  4-0  32   138  11-2
  2 Syracuse          28  3    6-0    3-3    9-0     5-0  5-0  27   258   8-6
  3 Kentucky          29  2    0-0    7-1   10-1     9-0  3-0  62   199  11-2
  4 Duke              26  5    4-3    4-1   12-1     3-0  4-0   4    73   9-5
  5 West Virginia     24  6    5-3    3-2    8-1     6-0  2-0   1    39  12-4
  6 Ohio State        24  7    5-4    1-1    6-2     7-0  5-0  48   231   7-6
  7 Kansas State      24  6    5-3    2-2    8-1     4-0  4-0   6    96  11-3
  8 Purdue            26  4    4-3    4-0    6-1     8-0  4-0  31   177  12-2
  9 Villanova         24  6    5-3    4-2    5-1     6-0  4-0   8   163  12-4
 10 Wisconsin         23  7    6-3    0-1    8-2     5-1  4-0  22   120   7-6
 11 New Mexico        28  3    4-0    3-2    1-0    11-1  9-0  98   129  11-2
 12 Baylor            24  6    5-3    2-1    8-2     3-0  5-0  37   228   9-5
 13 Michigan State    24  7    2-4    2-1    9-2     7-0  4-0  34   170   9-5
 14 Pittsburgh        24  7    4-3    1-1    8-2     7-1  3-0  33   221   7-6
 15 Butler (HOR)      28  4    2-2    0-1    5-1    13-0  8-0  91     4  13-4
 16 Tennessee         23  7    2-2    3-3    7-2     6-0  5-0  45   130   8-6
 17 Georgetown        20  9    3-5    4-2    5-1     4-1  3-0   2    63   8-5
 18 Temple            26  5    2-2    2-1    6-1    10-1  6-0  27   258   8-6
 19 Maryland          23  7    4-4    2-1    7-1     3-1  6-0  27   258   8-6
 20 Vanderbilt        23  7    1-2    6-0    8-4     5-1  2-0  29    94   9-5
 21 Texas A&M         22  8    4-5    2-3    7-0     4-0  4-0  11   140   7-7
 22 BYU               28  4    0-1    5-3    3-0    10-0  9-0 125   188  13-3
 23 Clemson           21  9    4-4    1-3    6-2     3-0  7-0  15   245   7-7
 24 Texas             23  8    2-6    3-0    9-2     4-0  5-0  39   204   8-6
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 53 Oakland (SUM)     26  8    0-4    0-1    0-0     6-3 18-0 191    13  13-7
 54 Montana (BSky)    22  9    0-0    0-1    0-0    11-4  9-4 310   131   8-7
 55 SL (Sam Hou St)   24  7    0-1    0-0    1-1     5-2 14-3 235    92  11-6
 56 MAC (Ohio)        19 14    0-0    0-1    2-4     7-6  8-3 164   159  6-10
 57 BW (Long Beach)   17 15    1-5    0-1    0-0     5-4  8-5 210   131  9-12
 58 AE (Boston U)     19 12    0-1    0-2    1-1     3-7 15-1 245    80  10-8
 59 North Texas (SB)  24  8    0-1    0-1    0-0     5-2 16-4 155   128  12-6
 60 MEAC (Morgan St)  25  9    0-1    0-2    0-1     3-3 22-2 304   171  14-8
 61 E Tenn St (ASun)  20 14    0-0    0-2    0-3     8-5 11-4 206    30  11-9
 62 Rob. Morris (NEC) 23 11    0-1    0-1    0-3     6-5 17-2 310   131  11-8
 63 Winthrop (BSth)   19 13    0-1    0-1    0-3     2-4 15-5 306    88  7-11
 64 Lehigh (Pat)      21 10    0-0    0-2    0-0     1-3 20-5 328   346   7-8
 65 SWAC (Ark PB)     15 15    0-2    0-4    0-2     0-3 15-4 301     1  7-14

 

Current unplaced teams board (28):

Team               W  L  top25  26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS   R+N
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C-USA (UTEP)      24  5    0-1    1-1    9-2     4-1 10-0 145   299   9-3
Cornell (Ivy)     27  4    0-2    0-0    2-1    10-0 13-1 218    78  14-3
Florida           20 11    2-4    2-4    7-2     4-0  5-1  58   215   7-7
Florida State     22  8    1-6    4-1    8-1     3-0  6-0  24   222   9-5
Georgia Tech      19 11    2-5    1-3    6-3     3-0  6-0  12   161   5-9
Gonzaga           26  6    1-2    1-1    9-1     4-1 11-1 111    40  12-5
Illinois          18 13    3-7    1-1    5-3     6-2  3-0  13   119   6-9
Louisville        20 11    2-5    1-2    6-2     7-2  3-0  23   176   5-7
Marquette         20 10    2-6    1-2    8-1     3-1  6-0  51   294   7-6
Minnesota         18 12    3-6    0-0    4-5     6-1  5-0  47   246   4-9
Missouri          22  9    2-5    2-2    9-1     1-1  8-0  56   300   6-7
Murray St (OVC)   30  4    0-1    0-0    2-1     4-2 22-0 297   307  15-4
MWC (UNLV)        23  7    1-2    3-2    2-1     7-2  9-0  97   137   9-4
Northern IA (MVC) 28  4    0-0    1-0    8-1    13-2  5-1 114   162  14-4
Notre Dame        21 10    3-2    1-1    6-5     5-2  6-0  70   342   4-7
Oklahoma State    21  9    4-5    0-0    5-4     8-0  4-0  49   298   6-8
Old Dominion (CAA)26  8    1-1    0-2    4-3     8-1 13-0 112    33  11-8
Pac-10 (Cal)      21  9    0-3    3-2    4-2    13-2  1-0  20    10   6-8
Richmond          24  7    1-1    4-1    3-3     9-2  7-0  85    92  10-6
San Diego State   22  8    0-2    2-3    1-0     9-1  8-1  83   107   8-7
Siena (MAAC)      27  6    0-1    0-3    1-1    18-1  7-0 167   104  10-6
St. Mary's (WCC)  26  5    0-0    3-3    3-2     7-0 12-0 155   128  12-3
Virginia Tech     23  7    1-3    2-1   10-3     2-0  8-0  66   330   8-6
WAC (Utah St)     25  6    1-0    0-1    4-1    12-4  7-0 154   171   8-5
Wake Forest       19  9    3-3    2-2    7-3     1-1  6-0   9   162   6-7
Washington        21  9    2-2    1-1    3-4    14-2  1-0  57   125   4-7
Wofford (SC)      26  8    0-1    0-1    2-2     8-4 15-0 207    86  15-7
Xavier            23  7    0-4    3-3    4-0    11-0  5-0  61    19   8-7

 

Teams still in discussion, but currently not on the board (6):

Team               W  L  top25  26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS   R+N
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Arizona State     22  9    0-5    2-1    2-2    12-1  6-0  64   161   6-6
Dayton            20 11    1-3    2-3    0-3    13-2  4-0  74    78   5-9
Mississippi       21  9    1-3    1-3    8-3     4-0  6-0  69   196   9-5
Mississippi State 21 10    0-1    3-4    7-5     5-2  6-0  86   256   9-7
Rhode Island      22  8    0-1    2-3    3-2    13-2  4-0  89    82   9-6
Seton Hall        19 11    0-6    3-3    5-2     5-0  6-0  52   323   6-7

[Andy]

My early recommendations for the 5/6 seeds:

-- Georgetown can't go to San Jose or Pitt's Spokane pod due to Big East bracketing rules, so they go to Providence with MSU (both teams relatively close by).

-- Temple goes to San Jose with Tennessee to balance out Syrcause's relatively weak bracket thus far.

-- Maryland to Spokane opposite Butler since bracketing rules prohibit them from being 2 rounds away from Duke.

-- That leaves Vandy to take the last spot opposite Pitt in Spokane.

-- A&M would go to Jacksonville in Duke's bracket, but Baylor's already there. They go to San Jose with New Mexico.

-- BYU would also go to Jacksonville, but they must be in a Thur/Sat pod. So they go to New Orleans opposite Wisconsin.

-- Clemson wouldn't otherwise go to Jacksonville, but Texas would end up there otherwise, and Baylor can't play them in round 2. So Clemson goes there, which might be slightly unfair to Baylor, but not egregiously so.

-- That leaves Texas opposite Villanova in Providence.

That leaves the bracket below. Any problems?

 

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Midwest Region - St. Louis, MO
--------------------------------------
-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
1 Kansas
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Butler
13
5 Maryland
12

-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
2 Ohio State
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
3 New Mexico
14
6 Texas A&M
11

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West Region - Salt Lake City, UT
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-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
1 Kentucky
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
4 Michigan State
13
5 Georgetown
12

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
2 Purdue
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
3 Villanova
14
6 Texas
11

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South Region - Houston, TX
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
1 Syracuse
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
4 Tennessee
13
5 Temple
12

-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
2 Kansas State
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
3 Wisconsin
14
6 BYU
11

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East Region - Syracuse, NY
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
1 Duke
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Pittsburgh
13
5 Vanderbilt
12

-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
2 West Virginia
15
7
10

-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
3 Baylor
14
6 Clemson
11

[Andy]

FWIW, I think Georgetown could easily swap spots with Pittsburgh if they win the Big East tournament.

[bukie]

BYU can also only go in the East or West region. The simplest solution would be to send Wisconsin to the Jacksonville pod and Baylor to New Orleans pod, and match up BYU-Baylor and Clemson-Wisconsin.

[Andy]

You mean like this? I assumed you meant switching the actual regions that both teams went to.

 

--------------------------------------
Midwest Region - St. Louis, MO
--------------------------------------
-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
1 Kansas
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Butler
13
5 Maryland
12

-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
2 Ohio State
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
3 New Mexico
14
6 Texas A&M
11

--------------------------------------
West Region - Salt Lake City, UT
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Milwaukee, WI
1 Kentucky
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
4 Michigan State
13
5 Georgetown
12

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
2 Purdue
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- Providence, RI
3 Villanova
14
6 Texas
11

--------------------------------------
South Region - Houston, TX
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
1 Syracuse
16
8
9

-- March 18/20 -- San Jose, CA
4 Tennessee
13
5 Temple
12

-- March 18/20 -- Oklahoma City, OK
2 Kansas State
15
7
10

-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
3 Wisconsin
14
6 Clemson
11

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East Region - Syracuse, NY
--------------------------------------
-- March 19/21 -- Jacksonville, FL
1 Duke
16
8
9

-- March 19/21 -- Spokane, WA
4 Pittsburgh
13
5 Vanderbilt
12

-- March 19/21 -- Buffalo, NY
2 West Virginia
15
7
10

-- March 18/20 -- New Orleans, LA
3 Baylor
14
6 BYU
11

[bukie]

Yeah, like that. Bid theft watch: Houston leads UTEP by 4 with 2 mins to play.

[SouthSideRyan]

The play-in game can't be matched up with KU. I'm fine with taking those bottom 2 teams on the curve and matching them up. Put them against whoever winds up our #2 1 seed

[CubInOK]

Yeah, like that. Bid theft watch: Houston leads UTEP by 4 with 2 mins to play.

Who starts games at 10:30 AM Central?

[bukie]

Yeah, like that. Bid theft watch: Houston leads UTEP by 4 with 2 mins to play.

Who starts games at 10:30 AM Central?

If you're a conference that wants to play a championship game on the last Saturday and don't want to get buried behind Big East/Big 12/Pac 10 championship coverage, you play early.

[Andy]

Well, I'm going to have to retool my list of 28 a bit if Houston gets it done here.

[Andy]

The play-in game can't be matched up with KU. I'm fine with taking those bottom 2 teams on the curve and matching them up. Put them against whoever winds up our #2 1 seed

I think Kentucky pretty much has that spot on lockdown.

[bukie]

Houston up 6 now with 40 seconds to go, UTEP just falling apart.

[Exile on Waveland]

Yeah, like that. Bid theft watch: Houston leads UTEP by 4 with 2 mins to play.

Who starts games at 10:30 AM Central?

If you're a conference that wants to play a championship game on the last Saturday and don't want to get buried behind Big East/Big 12/Pac 10 championship coverage, you play early.

 

They've started this game at this time for years.

[bukie]

If Houston makes it, are they above the lower teams we already placed?

 

I'd probably put them just above Oakland, myself. So we wouldn't have to redo that part.

[bukie]

Yeah, like that. Bid theft watch: Houston leads UTEP by 4 with 2 mins to play.

Who starts games at 10:30 AM Central?

If you're a conference that wants to play a championship game on the last Saturday and don't want to get buried behind Big East/Big 12/Pac 10 championship coverage, you play early.

 

They've started this game at this time for years.

And mostly for the reason I stated.