Ben Sheets (Was Sheets Signs with A's)

[flyseye]

For a message board so intent on not having duplicate threads, this one sure has a lot of them, they simply have different titles.And they always seem to contain input from the same two or three posters. IMO if they want to endlessly rehash the same old tired subject over and over, they should consider using PM's in consideration of others.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Both Hendry and Lou very flatly stated that they are comfortable with what they have from a starting pitcher standpoint and that they will not pursue Sheets. I'll be posting video of Hendry's statement in a while.

 

What Lou and Jim are saying is that the current rotation is satisfactory, which it is. Unfortunately, satisfactory will get you around a .500 record, maybe a figting chance at the playoffs. However, when an oportunity arrises improve upon satisfactory, if the price is right, you have to take it, especially when as of now, our team is very much a contender, though not a favorite. A healthy Sheets might not make us the favorite for the division, but it would be a definite improvement.

[davearm2]

I doubt I'd think either of those things, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if my ability to focus on studying film, fielding pregame grounders, etc. would suffer while my mind was stuck on what a &^@!# *#$% Bradley is. How that would manifest at gametime is anyone's guess but it wouldn't be helpful.

 

Sounds like ADD as opposed to "chemistry."

So I guess the next time we hear about some person or situation in sports being a distraction, we should simply diagnose all of those impacted with ADD.

 

Like the whole 2004 Cubs team during the last week of the season, for instance. Just a sudden, mass outbreak of ADD.

 

That stupid Bartman inflicted a whole lot of guys with ADD too, come to think of it. Friggin bastage.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm sorry, you're trying to blame the end of the 2004 season on "distractions?"

 

And you're actually saying that the Cubs blew the 2003 season because of Bartman?

 

Suddenly your perspective in this debate makes a LOT more sense.

[Banedon]

Oh, and for the long timers here, anyone want to chip in and suggest a number for how many derailed threads have been split over the seven years of the forum? I have no idea, but it's a pretty big number.

 

Funny thing is, if we lock a thread when it gets out of control, split it when it takes a turn, or merge it if it shares a subject with another topic, we get criticized for those things as well.

 

*shrug*

 

There's a thread like this every offseason. Peavy...Roberts...etc...

[Guest]

For a message board so intent on not having duplicate threads, this one sure has a lot of them, they simply have different titles.And they always seem to contain input from the same two or three posters. IMO if they want to endlessly rehash the same old tired subject over and over, they should consider using PM's in consideration of others.

 

The whole concept of a message board is to debate particular subjects. If every Cub fan has the same exact opinions and ideas, what would be the point of having a place to sit here and agree with each other over and over?

 

I don't see anything wrong with this discussion. It's been an attack of the argument and not the poster from the get go. You could simply not read or respond to those types of threads if it hurts your feelings that much.

[Cubswin11]

So with Sheets throwing today (unsure of time?), there is hope of this thread getting back on track with reports likely to come out after he throws about how he looked and potentially the general feelings there on what teams really are interested.

[Guest]

So with Sheets throwing today (unsure of time?), there is hope of this thread getting back on track with reports likely to come out after he throws about how he looked and potentially the general feelings there on what teams really are interested.

 

Yep. Although earlier reports on the Cubs actual interest are not very encouraging. Sheets seems to want quite a bit of money even with the uncertainty of his health, and the Cubs don't have much to spend. Hendry expressed that the Cubs were not interested, also. However, some media outlets believe this is just Hendry trying to get Sheets' agent to bring the price down.

[soapy]

So with Sheets throwing today (unsure of time?), there is hope of this thread getting back on track with reports likely to come out after he throws about how he looked and potentially the general feelings there on what teams really are interested.

 

Yep. Although earlier reports on the Cubs actual interest are not very encouraging. Sheets seems to want quite a bit of money even with the uncertainty of his health, and the Cubs don't have much to spend. Hendry expressed that the Cubs were not interested, also. However, some media outlets believe this is just Hendry trying to get Sheets' agent to bring the price down.

 

It doesn't seem like that's been Hendry's MO in the past, but I do hope that they have some interest if his asking price starts to come down.

[CUBZ99]

Hendry's update on the Sheets matter during the convention was spot on. During one of the Q&A's I heard on the radio, Hendry stated that almost every team would be interested in a pitcher like Sheets and that the Cubs were going to go watch him pitch. He also stated that nobody has seen Sheets pitch in over a year and that even with the workout today, it still wouldn't give teams any indication of whether Sheets would be able to handle a starting workload again. He said the Cubs would be taking a very cautious approach.

[Cubswin11]

If Sheets looks good today, there are enough teams watching, someone will offer him something close to his demands. I could see something along the lines of 2 years with $15-18m guaranteed and another $5m+ in incentives, that seems like to high of a price the Cubs either are willing to pay or able to pay right now. But if Sheets comes out and doesn't look great and warrants something more like a 1 year $5m guaranteed range with another $3-7m in incentives then he would be someone I would think Hendry makes a serious run at.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Take this with a grain of salt, though I think my source is fairly reliable.

 

Supposedly Sheets was telling some friends that should come by and watch him "let it fly" today. They asked would he hit ninety on the gun, and Sheets laughed and said "you know it." But then a few minutes later, he said, "well, maybe not ninety yet, but I still think I'll look good."

 

That might give us an idea of what to expect as to where Sheets stuff and velocity is right now.

 

I've heard the workout will take about an hour, which means it's probably going to be over with before I can make it that way. But if I hear any more reports, I'll let you know.

[javy knows my name]

Take this with a grain of salt, though I think my source is fairly reliable.

 

Supposedly Sheets was telling some friends that should come by and watch him "let it fly" today. They asked would he hit ninety on the gun, and Sheets laughed and said "you know it." But then a few minutes later, he said, "well, maybe not ninety yet, but I still think I'll look good."

 

That might give us an idea of what to expect as to where Sheets stuff and velocity is right now.

 

I've heard the workout will take about an hour, which means it's probably going to be over with before I can make it that way. But if I hear any more reports, I'll let you know.

Sounds like a cocky bastard. I like him.

[Backtobanks]

I don't think the Cubs can afford Sheets, no matter what happens today. If he's willing to sign a reasonable base/high incentive contract, a dozen teams would jump on that. There are too many teams more desperate than the Cubs for starters so some GM will pay more than he should for Sheets. Unless there's some other reason (he wants to play for the Cubs, he wants to stay in the NL Central, etc.), I can't see him coming here.

[davearm2]

Seem to me if Sheets wasn't able to look good throwing today, then he wouldn't be inviting MLB reps to come watch him.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Take this with a grain of salt, though I think my source is fairly reliable.

 

Supposedly Sheets was telling some friends that should come by and watch him "let it fly" today. They asked would he hit ninety on the gun, and Sheets laughed and said "you know it." But then a few minutes later, he said, "well, maybe not ninety yet, but I still think I'll look good."

 

That might give us an idea of what to expect as to where Sheets stuff and velocity is right now.

 

I've heard the workout will take about an hour, which means it's probably going to be over with before I can make it that way. But if I hear any more reports, I'll let you know.

Sounds like a cocky bastard. I like him.

 

Sheets is cocky from all accounts I've heard.

[Hall7810]

According to various tweets of those who are there, Sheets velocity was/has been around 91mph. He just starting throwing his off-speed stuff.

[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't pay enough attention to Sheets to know this, but what would he typically top out at when he's been healthy? Edited January 19, 2010 by Sammy Sofa

[Rob]

I didn't enough attention to Sheets to know this, but what would he typically top out at when he's been healthy?

 

When he's healthy, he generally works 93-94. But I imagine the odds that we see that guy again are low.

[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't enough attention to Sheets to know this, but what would he typically top out at when he's been healthy?

 

When he's healthy, he generally works 93-94. But I imagine the odds that we see that guy again are low.

 

How reliant was he on being able to hit those speeds when he was able to do so?

[Bull]

Report out of toronto: Sheets all but signed with Cubs.

 

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/jays-gm-sticks-to-his-guns/article1434416/

 

big paragraph 3/4 down.

 

Any credence?

[Rob]

I didn't enough attention to Sheets to know this, but what would he typically top out at when he's been healthy?

 

When he's healthy, he generally works 93-94. But I imagine the odds that we see that guy again are low.

 

How reliant was he on being able to hit those speeds when he was able to do so?

 

Generally he throws about 2/3 fastballs and 1/3 curveballs, with a rare changeup tossed in here and there.

 

But it appears the fastball has been his out pitch more than the curveball.

[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't enough attention to Sheets to know this, but what would he typically top out at when he's been healthy?

 

When he's healthy, he generally works 93-94. But I imagine the odds that we see that guy again are low.

 

How reliant was he on being able to hit those speeds when he was able to do so?

 

Generally he throws about 2/3 fastballs and 1/3 curveballs, with a rare changeup tossed in here and there.

 

But it appears the fastball has been his out pitch more than the curveball.

 

Thanks.

[jersey cubs fan]

Report out of toronto: Sheets all but signed with Cubs.

 

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/jays-gm-sticks-to-his-guns/article1434416/

 

big paragraph 3/4 down.

 

Any credence?

 

I would guess that's more of a Toronto writer saying the Blue Jays won't be getting him than somebody with information saying the Cubs are sure bets to get him.

[loukycub]

I don't think the Cubs can afford Sheets, no matter what happens today. If he's willing to sign a reasonable base/high incentive contract, a dozen teams would jump on that. There are too many teams more desperate than the Cubs for starters so some GM will pay more than he should for Sheets. Unless there's some other reason (he wants to play for the Cubs, he wants to stay in the NL Central, etc.), I can't see him coming here.

 

i think the cubs could afford sheets, but his asking price is way too high, especially after coming off of a surgery to the body part where he makes his money and being away from the game for a year.

 

i'd be willing to listen to a 1/6-7 heavy on incentives but 2/14-15 is too risky. but then again if he wants that money we have the gm foolish enough to give him more than he asked for, along with a ntc.