Red Sox sign Adrian Beltre

[BCVM22]

SI_JonHeyman: adrian beltre is close to a deal with the #redsox, si.com has learned. story should be up soon.

 

Gammo: Beltre 1 yr. Deal for $9m with player option for $5m. Physical coming

[Derwood]

It must be nice to have a 40 man active roster while everyone else has just 25

[UMFan83]

Damn, if we signed Beltre it would be our move of the offseason. For the Red Sox, its their 2nd or 3rd biggest move.

[Mugged By Fluffy]

If this had been a Hendry signing it would have been 9 mil for 4 years. Lots of dough for a guy who only had one good season. Only a year, but AB has the option in '11.

 

Wonder what this means for Mike Lowell. I guess he's back on the block.

[NonProfitCow]

Good move by the Red Sox.

[Mugged By Fluffy]

Good move by the Red Sox.

 

I don't know.

 

9 mil for a 270/25 HR hitter coming off an awful year? Yeah he plays good defense --but 9 mil for him?

I guess the best move is that it's only a 1 year deal and the 5 mil option is chump change to a team like the Red Sox.

[davearm2]

It must be nice to have a 40 man active roster while everyone else has just 25

Seriously... those guys have 2 starters at like 5 different positions.

 

Beltre + Lowell

Scutaro + Lowrie

Youkilis + Kotchman

Martinez + Varitek

4 OFs (Drew Ellsbury Cameron Hermida)

 

Not to mention, Ortiz tying up the DH slot just about every day.

[17 Seconds]

It must be nice to have a 40 man active roster while everyone else has just 25

Seriously... those guys have 2 starters at like 5 different positions.

 

Beltre + Lowell

Scutaro + Lowrie

Youkilis + Kotchman

Martinez + Varitek

4 OFs (Drew Ellsbury Cameron Hermida)

 

Not to mention, Ortiz tying up the DH slot just about every day.

 

a lot of the guys you just named suck

[TheVolCub08]

I'd bet that Lowell is on the way out the door once he returns healthy from his surgery.

[Rob]

C - Martinez

1B - Youkilis

2B - Pedroia

SS - Scutaro

3B - Beltre

LF - Ellsbury

CF - Cameron

RF - Drew

DH - Ortiz

 

That's some serious defensive versatility and a pretty damn good offense. And with a bench containing Varitek, Kotchman, Lowrie, Lowell, and Hermida... A pitching staff with Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Matsuzaka, Buchholz and Wakefield to cycle in and out... not to mention Papelbon and Okajima to shut down games in the late innings.

 

Talk about overpowered...

 

The last few years, the Red Sox and Yankees have redefined what is expected of big market teams attempting to embark on a rebuilding process... the turnaround isn't 2-4 seasons anymore... it's maaaaybe one. I'll be real interested to see how our organization responds to the fact that the window is closing quickly on the team as it is currently constructed.

[carolinacubbie]

C - Martinez

1B - Youkilis

2B - Pedroia

SS - Scutaro

3B - Beltre

LF - Ellsbury

CF - Cameron

RF - Drew

DH - Ortiz

 

That's some serious defensive versatility and a pretty damn good offense. And with a bench containing Varitek, Kotchman, Lowrie, Lowell, and Hermida... A pitching staff with Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Matsuzaka, Buchholz and Wakefield to cycle in and out... not to mention Papelbon and Okajima to shut down games in the late innings.

 

Talk about overpowered...

 

The last few years, the Red Sox and Yankees have redefined what is expected of big market teams attempting to embark on a rebuilding process... the turnaround isn't 2-4 seasons anymore... it's maaaaybe one. I'll be real interested to see how our organization responds to the fact that the window is closing quickly on the team as it is currently constructed.

 

 

Great lineup. Still wondering if they are really gonna roll Martinez out there at C everyday. I guess when you have the money, you just sign the player no matter what. Man, baseball needs a cap.

[Rob]

C - Martinez

1B - Youkilis

2B - Pedroia

SS - Scutaro

3B - Beltre

LF - Ellsbury

CF - Cameron

RF - Drew

DH - Ortiz

 

That's some serious defensive versatility and a pretty damn good offense. And with a bench containing Varitek, Kotchman, Lowrie, Lowell, and Hermida... A pitching staff with Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Matsuzaka, Buchholz and Wakefield to cycle in and out... not to mention Papelbon and Okajima to shut down games in the late innings.

 

Talk about overpowered...

 

The last few years, the Red Sox and Yankees have redefined what is expected of big market teams attempting to embark on a rebuilding process... the turnaround isn't 2-4 seasons anymore... it's maaaaybe one. I'll be real interested to see how our organization responds to the fact that the window is closing quickly on the team as it is currently constructed.

 

 

Great lineup. Still wondering if they are really gonna roll Martinez out there at C everyday. I guess when you have the money, you just sign the player no matter what. Man, baseball needs a cap.

 

He'll probably DH when they face a lefty, but I imagine Youkilis gets the vast majority of starts at 1B... and if he has to fill in at 3B to cover a Beltre injury, you're probably looking at Kotchman getting the start more often than not.

 

And I think you'd be shocked if you saw how little the Red Sox were actually paying. I know their payroll was actually lower than the Cubs last year at least.

[17 Seconds]

isn't cameron going to play left with ellsbury in center, or did boston wise up?

[NewUserName]

Does Boston have any real bad contracts? I know that Drew's contract isnt good, but are they just throwing money away for poor to bad productivity anywhere?

[SouthSideRyan]

Does Boston have any real bad contracts? I know that Drew's contract isnt good, but are they just throwing money away for poor to bad productivity anywhere?

 

Mike Lowell and Dice-K. I can't remember if they're still paying Julio Lugo.

[CubColtPacer]

Does Boston have any real bad contracts? I know that Drew's contract isnt good, but are they just throwing money away for poor to bad productivity anywhere?

 

Well, they are paying 9 million for Lugo to play for the Cardinals this year.

 

Ortiz will almost certainly be overpaid this year.

 

Lowell is a huge question mark and will likely not be worth anywhere near his salary this year.

 

When you include the posting fee Daisuke has been a disappointment so far and it is uncertain if he will ever live up to that huge deal.

 

Their contracts they handed out this year are risky but it is too early to call them poor.

 

I didn't look at their short contracts for their bench players and relievers.

 

They don't have a Soriano on their roster, but they have several examples of questionable to poor type of contracts.

[carolinacubbie]

C - Martinez

1B - Youkilis

2B - Pedroia

SS - Scutaro

3B - Beltre

LF - Ellsbury

CF - Cameron

RF - Drew

DH - Ortiz

 

That's some serious defensive versatility and a pretty damn good offense. And with a bench containing Varitek, Kotchman, Lowrie, Lowell, and Hermida... A pitching staff with Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Matsuzaka, Buchholz and Wakefield to cycle in and out... not to mention Papelbon and Okajima to shut down games in the late innings.

 

Talk about overpowered...

 

The last few years, the Red Sox and Yankees have redefined what is expected of big market teams attempting to embark on a rebuilding process... the turnaround isn't 2-4 seasons anymore... it's maaaaybe one. I'll be real interested to see how our organization responds to the fact that the window is closing quickly on the team as it is currently constructed.

 

 

Great lineup. Still wondering if they are really gonna roll Martinez out there at C everyday. I guess when you have the money, you just sign the player no matter what. Man, baseball needs a cap.

 

He'll probably DH when they face a lefty, but I imagine Youkilis gets the vast majority of starts at 1B... and if he has to fill in at 3B to cover a Beltre injury, you're probably looking at Kotchman getting the start more often than not.

 

And I think you'd be shocked if you saw how little the Red Sox were actually paying. I know their payroll was actually lower than the Cubs last year at least.

 

 

So they're going to platoon Ortiz?

[Derwood]

Kotchman just got traded to Seattle for Bill Hall

[Rob]

C - Martinez

1B - Youkilis

2B - Pedroia

SS - Scutaro

3B - Beltre

LF - Ellsbury

CF - Cameron

RF - Drew

DH - Ortiz

 

That's some serious defensive versatility and a pretty damn good offense. And with a bench containing Varitek, Kotchman, Lowrie, Lowell, and Hermida... A pitching staff with Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Matsuzaka, Buchholz and Wakefield to cycle in and out... not to mention Papelbon and Okajima to shut down games in the late innings.

 

Talk about overpowered...

 

The last few years, the Red Sox and Yankees have redefined what is expected of big market teams attempting to embark on a rebuilding process... the turnaround isn't 2-4 seasons anymore... it's maaaaybe one. I'll be real interested to see how our organization responds to the fact that the window is closing quickly on the team as it is currently constructed.

 

 

Great lineup. Still wondering if they are really gonna roll Martinez out there at C everyday. I guess when you have the money, you just sign the player no matter what. Man, baseball needs a cap.

 

He'll probably DH when they face a lefty, but I imagine Youkilis gets the vast majority of starts at 1B... and if he has to fill in at 3B to cover a Beltre injury, you're probably looking at Kotchman getting the start more often than not.

 

And I think you'd be shocked if you saw how little the Red Sox were actually paying. I know their payroll was actually lower than the Cubs last year at least.

 

 

So they're going to platoon Ortiz?

 

I was predicting a semi-platoon based on the idea of keeping Ortiz's knees healthy... but yeah, he hasn't really hit lefties for a few years and should probably be platooned at this point.

[Formerly Snayke]

Good move by the Red Sox.

 

I don't know.

 

9 mil for a 270/25 HR hitter coming off an awful year? Yeah he plays good defense --but 9 mil for him?

I guess the best move is that it's only a 1 year deal and the 5 mil option is chump change to a team like the Red Sox.

 

Well...yeah. They added a good #7 hitter who can play excellent defense for a drop in the bucket. If this had been the Pirates or Royals it'd be an awful deal.

[17 Seconds]

the key is that it's a one year deal. if you have money leftover and have nothing else to spend it on, you might as well. there's not really any risk involved with a one year deal.

 

this is why it's hilarious that aaron miles got a 2 year deal.

[davearm2]

Good move by the Red Sox.

 

I don't know.

 

9 mil for a 270/25 HR hitter coming off an awful year? Yeah he plays good defense --but 9 mil for him?

I guess the best move is that it's only a 1 year deal and the 5 mil option is chump change to a team like the Red Sox.

 

Well...yeah. They added a good #7 hitter who can play excellent defense for a drop in the bucket. If this had been the Pirates or Royals it'd be an awful deal.

$9M is not a drop in the bucket in today's MLB, even for Boston.

[davearm2]

the key is that it's a one year deal. if you have money leftover and have nothing else to spend it on, you might as well. there's not really any risk involved with a one year deal.

 

this is why it's hilarious that aaron miles got a 2 year deal.

So paying $9M for 1 year is smarter than paying $4.9M for 2 years. Fascinating.

[17 Seconds]

the key is that it's a one year deal. if you have money leftover and have nothing else to spend it on, you might as well. there's not really any risk involved with a one year deal.

 

this is why it's hilarious that aaron miles got a 2 year deal.

So paying $9M for 1 year is smarter than paying $4.9M for 2 years. Fascinating.

 

wtf

 

are you actively try to be obtuse with every post you make now? i mean, seriously. assuming you're a rational person, there's no way you can make a post like that and not understand how pointless/irrelevent it is in regards to the post i made before it.

 

but to answer your question, yeah. paying 9 mil to an above average player is better than giving 2/5 to a crappy player. (not that any of this has anything whatsoever to do with my original point.... which was all about contract length and risks).

[davearm2]

the key is that it's a one year deal. if you have money leftover and have nothing else to spend it on, you might as well. there's not really any risk involved with a one year deal.

 

this is why it's hilarious that aaron miles got a 2 year deal.

So paying $9M for 1 year is smarter than paying $4.9M for 2 years. Fascinating.

 

wtf

 

are you actively try to be obtuse with every post you make now? i mean, seriously. assuming you're a rational person, there's no way you can make a post like that and not understand how pointless/irrelevent it is in regards to the post i made before it.

 

but to answer your question, yeah. paying 9 mil to an above average player is better than giving 2/5 to a crappy player. (not that any of this has anything whatsoever to do with my original point.... which was all about contract length and risks).

Hey you're the one that drew the comparison to Aaron Miles. I just pointed out the unintended hilarity in your "logic": <$5M spread over two years is apparently a bigger risk than $9M spread over one.

 

Just stop and let that resonate for a moment, and maybe you'll crack up too.