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That was disgusting. Three of our last four playoff losses have been some of the most demoralizing losses imaginable.

 

Rodgers was absolutely awesome after the first quarter and it just figures that he misses a wide open Jennings to start OT.

 

Aren't all playoff losses amongst the most demoralizing losses you could imagine? Give me an example of a playoff game that wouldn't fall into this category. Would you have rather the Packers not made a comeback? Not picking on you, just wondering, because I always think like that, and if asked that I would say like a 27-17 loss would be better because we'd just be beaten by a better team but at least were in the game and not blown out. But in reality, I'd be picking those moments of close calls that didn't go our way, which happen in every game to make me demoralized beyond belief about what could have been.

 

Close playoff losses are much worse than blowouts. While I'd rather watch a close loss than a blowout loss, it's still tougher to take. For instance, the 1999 Titans Super Bowl loss and last year's loss to the Ravens were much tougher losses to take than the times they've been blown out.

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losing on a fumble in ot after you just missed a wide open reciever for a td that would have ended the game (and after you came back from 21 down in the second half) is a bit different than losing like the eagles or patriots did this weekend, yea.

 

Sure it's different, but worse? The Eagles I'll give you, their fans pretty much all assumed they were going to get spanked on the road again one week after getting spanked and that's what happened without anything else getting in the way. But the Patriots were hosting what they perceived to be a clearly inferior team, and got blown out in about 3 minutes. The game ended before it began, and the fans all sat there for 2.5 quarters of jaw dropping futility they never imagined happening. Patriots fans thought they were very capable of going on the road and embarrassing the higher seeds, they were quite confident, and they gave up the game on 51 turnovers in the first 5 minutes of the game.

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losing on a fumble in ot after you just missed a wide open reciever for a td that would have ended the game (and after you came back from 21 down in the second half) is a bit different than losing like the eagles or patriots did this weekend, yea.

 

Sure it's different, but worse? The Eagles I'll give you, their fans pretty much all assumed they were going to get spanked on the road again one week after getting spanked and that's what happened without anything else getting in the way. But the Patriots were hosting what they perceived to be a clearly inferior team, and got blown out in about 3 minutes. The game ended before it began, and the fans all sat there for 2.5 quarters of jaw dropping futility they never imagined happening. Patriots fans thought they were very capable of going on the road and embarrassing the higher seeds, they were quite confident, and they gave up the game on 51 turnovers in the first 5 minutes of the game.

 

You're over that by the end of the game, though. With a fumble in OT or some other late-game dramatics, you start to obssess over the 1-2 things that your team might have been able to do differently (or the 1-2 breaks that your team didn't get that might have swung the balance) for quite a while after the game.

 

I still cringe every time I see Kevin Dyson coming up a yard short in the Super Bowl. I don't cringe when I think of the Titans getting handled by the Patriots in 2004.

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That was disgusting. Three of our last four playoff losses have been some of the most demoralizing losses imaginable.

 

Rodgers was absolutely awesome after the first quarter and it just figures that he misses a wide open Jennings to start OT.

 

Aren't all playoff losses amongst the most demoralizing losses you could imagine? Give me an example of a playoff game that wouldn't fall into this category. Would you have rather the Packers not made a comeback? Not picking on you, just wondering, because I always think like that, and if asked that I would say like a 27-17 loss would be better because we'd just be beaten by a better team but at least were in the game and not blown out. But in reality, I'd be picking those moments of close calls that didn't go our way, which happen in every game to make me demoralized beyond belief about what could have been.

 

losing on a fumble in ot after you just missed a wide open reciever for a td that would have ended the game (and after you came back from 21 down in the second half) is a bit different than losing like the eagles or patriots did this weekend, yea.

 

True. I missed the play where he missed the receiver, I had to run an errand the last 5 minutes of the 4th and only heard the rest on the radio. Maybe if I saw how close it was I could understand better.

 

he was wide open and all alone. all he had to do was hit him and it's game over. he overthrew him by about 5 feet

 

Rodgers has never been able to throw the deep ball with consistency. He doesn't understand that when the receiver has the safety beat you just loft it over the top and make it an easy catch. He always wants to throw a bullet as if he's threading a needle.

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I still cringe every time I see Kevin Dyson coming up a yard short in the Super Bowl. I don't cringe when I think of the Titans getting handled by the Patriots in 2004.

 

You are ignoring what I said about expectations though. And I don't get what you are referring to. The Patriots beat the Titans 17-14 in January 2004 (2003 season), and didn't qualify for the playoffs in 2004. New England was the clear-cut favorite that season, and Tennessee was a wild card team on the road, you had to think they'd lose.

 

New England fans thought they were going to handle Baltimore yesterday, and they were humiliated, that's not just a ho-hum loss.

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he was wide open and all alone. all he had to do was hit him and it's game over. he overthrew him by about 5 feet

 

Rodgers has never been able to throw the deep ball with consistency. He doesn't understand that when the receiver has the safety beat you just loft it over the top and make it an easy catch. He always wants to throw a bullet as if he's threading a needle.

 

I still think he's a great QB. I wouldn't be laying this loss at his feet. The Packers' supposedly amazing D laid a huge egg yesterday, and the Cardinals didn't even have Boldin.

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I still cringe every time I see Kevin Dyson coming up a yard short in the Super Bowl. I don't cringe when I think of the Titans getting handled by the Patriots in 2004.

 

You are ignoring what I said about expectations though. And I don't get what you are referring to. The Patriots beat the Titans 17-14 in January 2004 (2003 season), and didn't qualify for the playoffs in 2004. New England was the clear-cut favorite that season, and Tennessee was a wild card team on the road, you had to think they'd lose.

 

New England fans thought they were going to handle Baltimore yesterday, and they were humiliated, that's not just a ho-hum loss.

 

No playoff loss is ho-hum, but blowouts are much easier to get over than nailbiters to me. And I would argue that the Patriots shouldn't have been expecting to roll over the Ravens because the Ravens aren't much worse than the Pats. New England doesn't have a great defense this year and I expected it to be exploited - just not to the level that it was.

 

As for the Titans' playoff losses, you're right about the NE/Tennessee score (it was 03, not 04 as well). Not sure why I remember it being much worse than that. Probably a better example would be the January 2003 game (2002 season) when the 2nd seeded Titans lost to the 1st seeded Raiders 41-24. It was competitive until halftime, but then the Titans imploded and the Raiders won by 17. That one was tough, but nothing compared to the close losses we've taken (99 Super Bowl, last year). And I thought that game was a toss up at the time.

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No playoff loss is ho-hum, but blowouts are much easier to get over than nailbiters to me. And I would argue that the Patriots shouldn't have been expecting to roll over the Ravens because the Ravens aren't much worse than the Pats. New England doesn't have a great defense this year and I expected it to be exploited - just not to the level that it was.

 

As for the Titans' playoff losses, you're right about the NE/Tennessee score (it was 03, not 04 as well). Not sure why I remember it being much worse than that. Probably a better example would be the January 2003 game (2002 season) when the 2nd seeded Titans lost to the 1st seeded Raiders 41-24. It was competitive until halftime, but then the Titans imploded and the Raiders won by 17. That one was tough, but nothing compared to the close losses we've taken (99 Super Bowl, last year). And I thought that game was a toss up at the time.

 

The other thing is a super bowl loss is most likely going to always be that much more disappointing, as hopes were building with each win before. The Bears got spanked against the Eagles in 2001/2002 playoffs and it wasn't that disappointing since it was a flukish team to begin with, the 2005/2006 loss to Carolina was closer but the team was similarly "flukish" or surprisingly good. The 2006/2007 SB loss to Indy was kind of close for a while but ended up as a blowout, but the loss hurt more since they were so close, it was the Super Bowl and expectations were higher given back to back good seasons and the thought that the Bears were for real instead of those earlier versions.

 

I still think that NE loss was embarrassing enough to be classified as worse than your run-of-the-mill playoff beating. Their team was pathetic and should have been shutout in the first half if not for a gift turnover/non challenge.

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No playoff loss is ho-hum, but blowouts are much easier to get over than nailbiters to me. And I would argue that the Patriots shouldn't have been expecting to roll over the Ravens because the Ravens aren't much worse than the Pats. New England doesn't have a great defense this year and I expected it to be exploited - just not to the level that it was.

 

As for the Titans' playoff losses, you're right about the NE/Tennessee score (it was 03, not 04 as well). Not sure why I remember it being much worse than that. Probably a better example would be the January 2003 game (2002 season) when the 2nd seeded Titans lost to the 1st seeded Raiders 41-24. It was competitive until halftime, but then the Titans imploded and the Raiders won by 17. That one was tough, but nothing compared to the close losses we've taken (99 Super Bowl, last year). And I thought that game was a toss up at the time.

 

The other thing is a super bowl loss is most likely going to always be that much more disappointing, as hopes were building with each win before. The Bears got spanked against the Eagles in 2001/2002 playoffs and it wasn't that disappointing since it was a flukish team to begin with, the 2005/2006 loss to Carolina was closer but the team was similarly "flukish" or surprisingly good. The 2006/2007 SB loss to Indy was kind of close for a while but ended up as a blowout, but the loss hurt more since they were so close, it was the Super Bowl and expectations were higher given back to back good seasons and the thought that the Bears were for real instead of those earlier versions.

 

I still think that NE loss was embarrassing enough to be classified as worse than your run-of-the-mill playoff beating. Their team was pathetic and should have been shutout in the first half if not for a gift turnover/non challenge.

 

I'll agree that it was worse than your run-of-the-mill playoff blowout. I still don't think it's comparable to a nailbiter loss, though. And yeah, the Super Bowl magnifies anything, but a clearly superior Titans team lost in a very close game to the Ravens last year. That was far worse than the Raiders/Titans blowout of 2003.

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he was wide open and all alone. all he had to do was hit him and it's game over. he overthrew him by about 5 feet

 

Rodgers has never been able to throw the deep ball with consistency. He doesn't understand that when the receiver has the safety beat you just loft it over the top and make it an easy catch. He always wants to throw a bullet as if he's threading a needle.

 

I still think he's a great QB. I wouldn't be laying this loss at his feet. The Packers' supposedly amazing D laid a huge egg yesterday, and the Cardinals didn't even have Boldin.

 

Yeah, it would be tough to blame Rodgers. Sure he missed that pass but the offense scored 45 points. Can't really blame him. I'm excited about him big time, it's possible that he is on the verge of being the best in the league and it's been a while since the Packers have had a good QB.

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I've pimped his blog before, and I want to do it again. Bob Strum (he has a radio show on a local station in Dallas) has an awesome sports blog. It won't interest most non-Cowboys fans, but his take is usually spot on and well thought-out.

 

Here's his take on the Cowboys playoff victory over the Eagles.

 

I particularly noted this part.

 

And then there is Tony Romo. The bar that he must jump over as a star QB in the NFL will continue to rise. But, he was painted with a certain brush by an awfully lot of people who now have to reconsider what they think of him. And he made that happen by determining that enough was enough. I have written at great length what I think of Romo and what I think he had to do this past off-season. After a long year of being ripped, I believe he has been vindicated. He has put this offense on his shoulders with performance after performance that has been nearly perfect - and they all happened after Dec 1. The challenge was laid out for him - play your best football when your team needs you most - and he has. I think any Cowboys fan has to be proud of the man. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders, and he proved he is fit to play the part.

 

and probably my favorite in light of what I had heard from a lot of the national media before the game...

 

Yesterday demonstrated a valuable lesson: History does not win playoff games. Quality football teams do. No amount of Andy Reid 1st round victories could stop the Cowboys offense, nor could any playoff failures from other Cowboys teams help the Eagles pass protect.
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I've pimped his blog before, and I want to do it again. Bob Strum (he has a radio show on a local station in Dallas) has an awesome sports blog. It won't interest most non-Cowboys fans, but his take is usually spot on and well thought-out.

 

Here's his take on the Cowboys playoff victory over the Eagles.

 

I particularly noted this part.

 

And then there is Tony Romo. The bar that he must jump over as a star QB in the NFL will continue to rise. But, he was painted with a certain brush by an awfully lot of people who now have to reconsider what they think of him. And he made that happen by determining that enough was enough. I have written at great length what I think of Romo and what I think he had to do this past off-season. After a long year of being ripped, I believe he has been vindicated. He has put this offense on his shoulders with performance after performance that has been nearly perfect - and they all happened after Dec 1. The challenge was laid out for him - play your best football when your team needs you most - and he has. I think any Cowboys fan has to be proud of the man. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders, and he proved he is fit to play the part.

 

and probably my favorite in light of what I had heard from a lot of the national media before the game...

 

Yesterday demonstrated a valuable lesson: History does not win playoff games. Quality football teams do. No amount of Andy Reid 1st round victories could stop the Cowboys offense, nor could any playoff failures from other Cowboys teams help the Eagles pass protect.

 

I think it's fairly riduculous that he asserts Romo just decided to prove people wrong.

 

And it's still only the wild card round, and blowout games. He's not going to disprove the critics until he does it in a tight playoff game and/or makes it deep into the playoffs. Manning had the same critics until he actually won a super bowl.

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he was wide open and all alone. all he had to do was hit him and it's game over. he overthrew him by about 5 feet

 

Rodgers has never been able to throw the deep ball with consistency. He doesn't understand that when the receiver has the safety beat you just loft it over the top and make it an easy catch. He always wants to throw a bullet as if he's threading a needle.

 

I still think he's a great QB. I wouldn't be laying this loss at his feet. The Packers' supposedly amazing D laid a huge egg yesterday, and the Cardinals didn't even have Boldin.

 

Yeah, it would be tough to blame Rodgers. Sure he missed that pass but the offense scored 45 points. Can't really blame him. I'm excited about him big time, it's possible that he is on the verge of being the best in the league and it's been a while since the Packers have had a good QB.

 

Exactly, it's impossible to fault him for the loss considering he was a gigantic reason why we even made that gigantic comeback in the first place.

 

We scored 45 points and 35 points in the second half. In our other loss in the second half of the season, we scored 36 points with Rodgers having a big game against Pittsburgh too. We just need to get more depth in our secondary. It's clear that should be our biggest priority; even before drafting offensive linemen.

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I've pimped his blog before, and I want to do it again. Bob Strum (he has a radio show on a local station in Dallas) has an awesome sports blog. It won't interest most non-Cowboys fans, but his take is usually spot on and well thought-out.

 

Here's his take on the Cowboys playoff victory over the Eagles.

 

I particularly noted this part.

 

And then there is Tony Romo. The bar that he must jump over as a star QB in the NFL will continue to rise. But, he was painted with a certain brush by an awfully lot of people who now have to reconsider what they think of him. And he made that happen by determining that enough was enough. I have written at great length what I think of Romo and what I think he had to do this past off-season. After a long year of being ripped, I believe he has been vindicated. He has put this offense on his shoulders with performance after performance that has been nearly perfect - and they all happened after Dec 1. The challenge was laid out for him - play your best football when your team needs you most - and he has. I think any Cowboys fan has to be proud of the man. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders, and he proved he is fit to play the part.

 

and probably my favorite in light of what I had heard from a lot of the national media before the game...

 

Yesterday demonstrated a valuable lesson: History does not win playoff games. Quality football teams do. No amount of Andy Reid 1st round victories could stop the Cowboys offense, nor could any playoff failures from other Cowboys teams help the Eagles pass protect.

 

man, dallas fans really need to have a rib or two removed and be done with it. just seems like a lot of self-gratification for a team that's won a wildcard game in the last 13 years.

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I've pimped his blog before, and I want to do it again. Bob Strum (he has a radio show on a local station in Dallas) has an awesome sports blog. It won't interest most non-Cowboys fans, but his take is usually spot on and well thought-out.

 

Here's his take on the Cowboys playoff victory over the Eagles.

 

I particularly noted this part.

 

And then there is Tony Romo. The bar that he must jump over as a star QB in the NFL will continue to rise. But, he was painted with a certain brush by an awfully lot of people who now have to reconsider what they think of him. And he made that happen by determining that enough was enough. I have written at great length what I think of Romo and what I think he had to do this past off-season. After a long year of being ripped, I believe he has been vindicated. He has put this offense on his shoulders with performance after performance that has been nearly perfect - and they all happened after Dec 1. The challenge was laid out for him - play your best football when your team needs you most - and he has. I think any Cowboys fan has to be proud of the man. He had the weight of the world on his shoulders, and he proved he is fit to play the part.

 

and probably my favorite in light of what I had heard from a lot of the national media before the game...

 

Yesterday demonstrated a valuable lesson: History does not win playoff games. Quality football teams do. No amount of Andy Reid 1st round victories could stop the Cowboys offense, nor could any playoff failures from other Cowboys teams help the Eagles pass protect.

 

man, dallas fans really need to have a rib or two removed and be done with it. just seems like a lot of self-gratification for a team that's won a wildcard game in the last 13 years.

 

If there's one thing Texas actually does better than everyone else, it's self gratification.

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