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PFT is saying that Lovie wants Martz and Angelo does not. Even said that Lovie had to pay for Martz' plane ticket for his meeting with Cutler yesterday. This could be one of those things where Angelo goes into "job save" mode, distance himself from it and try to save himself, if it doesn't work out and Lovie gets canned. Rogers is supposedly still in the picture and Angelo wanted Chudzinski evidently......

 

Well since its now or never for Lovie, you would think he would be able to make the decision.

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They first talked on Friday after leaving Martz hanging for a few weeks. I have to think they are either going to decide on him by today, or they are going with somebody else. I can't imagine a guy like Martz, who isn't desperate for a chance to prove himself in the NFL, to be happy waiting around much longer after all this has gone down.
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They first talked on Friday after leaving Martz hanging for a few weeks. I have to think they are either going to decide on him by today, or they are going with somebody else. I can't imagine a guy like Martz, who isn't desperate for a chance to prove himself in the NFL, to be happy waiting around much longer after all this has gone down.

 

I'll also be interested in how they spin the hiring, if they do go with him. They knew he was interested weeks ago and just now got around to interviewing him? I don't see how they could stand up there with a straight face at the press conference and tell everyone that they got the right guy and are really excited to have him on board.

 

They will, but most people should be able to see through the bs.

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They first talked on Friday after leaving Martz hanging for a few weeks. I have to think they are either going to decide on him by today, or they are going with somebody else. I can't imagine a guy like Martz, who isn't desperate for a chance to prove himself in the NFL, to be happy waiting around much longer after all this has gone down.

 

I'll also be interested in how they spin the hiring, if they do go with him. They knew he was interested weeks ago and just now got around to interviewing him? I don't see how they could stand up there with a straight face at the press conference and tell everyone that they got the right guy and are really excited to have him on board.

 

They will, but most people should be able to see through the bs.

 

BS or not, they will surely just say they wanted to do a complete interview process with multiple candidates before making a hire.

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They first talked on Friday after leaving Martz hanging for a few weeks. I have to think they are either going to decide on him by today, or they are going with somebody else. I can't imagine a guy like Martz, who isn't desperate for a chance to prove himself in the NFL, to be happy waiting around much longer after all this has gone down.

 

I'll also be interested in how they spin the hiring, if they do go with him. They knew he was interested weeks ago and just now got around to interviewing him? I don't see how they could stand up there with a straight face at the press conference and tell everyone that they got the right guy and are really excited to have him on board.

 

They will, but most people should be able to see through the bs.

 

I don't think it would be that hard to sell. Of all the candidates they knew Martz best. They waned to interview multiple guys, so it made sense talk to others first before going to Martz. It makes less sense to essentially do one interview a week for 3 weeks, but it should not be that hard to think they got the guy they wanted after doing their due diligence.

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With all this talk of OC, the DC seems to have been pretty much put on the back burner. I'm hearing that the assumption is that Marinelli will do the job. As much as Angelo appears to have been reluctant to see Lovie hire another one of his friends, I wonder if he will be happy with a Lovie pal just slipping in to the DC role too.

 

It doesn't seem like there will be the kind of change at the defensive coordinator position that would lead me to believe the defense will experience a large jump in production, unless they do pick up the search again. However, a full season of Urlacher would help by default, IMO.

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If Angelo doesnt wnat Martz becuase he's Lovie's buddy then he clearly is an idoit. There has to be more to it that just that. Martz isn't Bob friggen Babich

 

Yeah, that one doesn't make sense. Martz has no ties to the Tampa system that sprouted Lovie's treehouse and no ties to the Indy branch of that system. They were on the same ASU staff 2 decades ago, but have done a lot of other stuff since.

 

I'm thinking Lovie is desperate to save his job this coming year, whereas Angelos has more longterm plans in mind, and was preferring to get a younger guy that could potentially stick around with Cutler regardless of Lovie's return next year. If the Bears make the playoffs though, I'd bet on everybody returning in 2011 anyway.

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If Angelo doesnt wnat Martz becuase he's Lovie's buddy then he clearly is an idoit. There has to be more to it that just that. Martz isn't Bob friggen Babich

 

Yeah, that one doesn't make sense. Martz has no ties to the Tampa system that sprouted Lovie's treehouse and no ties to the Indy branch of that system. They were on the same ASU staff 2 decades ago, but have done a lot of other stuff since.

 

I'm thinking Lovie is desperate to save his job this coming year, whereas Angelos has more longterm plans in mind, and was preferring to get a younger guy that could potentially stick around with Cutler regardless of Lovie's return next year. If the Bears make the playoffs though, I'd bet on everybody returning in 2011 anyway.

 

I've said it before, but I really think if the decision had been entirely Angelo's to make, I think Lovie would have been gone. I think Lovie knows it, and that there's tension between him and Jerry.

 

I think at this point, Angelo is going to do his best to put whatever happens this season into Lovie's lap. Jerry is in CYA mode.

 

I think as soon as the labor situation is worked out, the McCaskeys give Angelo the go ahead to jettison Lovie.

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It's been 4 weeks. Why not just wait another one to interview a couple Saints/Colts guys next Monday?

 

If that's what they want, sure, but if Martz is their guy, waiting at this point could be a mistake. When guys are interviewed, the decision generally follows shortly, especially with established guys. It's not like a typical job where they talk to multiple candidates and say they'll get back to you. They insulted him by taking this long (just last week he talked of apparently not being in the plans), waiting another week to interview a guy on Monday or Tuesday and then deciding would just be a further sign that they want anybody but Martz. So if they hire him then, it would seem even more like a settling for third choice situation.

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If Angelo doesnt wnat Martz becuase he's Lovie's buddy then he clearly is an idoit. There has to be more to it that just that. Martz isn't Bob friggen Babich

 

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If Angelo doesnt wnat Martz becuase he's Lovie's buddy then he clearly is an idoit. There has to be more to it that just that. Martz isn't Bob friggen Babich

 

#-o

 

lol-well, there are several misspells in that sentence. It never was a strong attribute of mine.

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However, a full season of Urlacher would help by default, IMO.

 

It would, if it happens. But that's no sure thing. He's almost 32 and is coming off surgery. That's one year removed from a down season attributed to health problems. Maybe all that time off saved his back and legs, but he's no spring chicken, and considering how important speed is to his game, there's still a wait and see situation with Urlacher. I'm hoping and expecting him to have a solid year, but they can't really count on him to be that big of a difference maker in comparison to how weak the defense has been for three years.

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I think this is a good move. I have a feeling Martz said all the right things and told them he would incorporate roll-outs and use the running game more than year's past so he got the job. Good OC's can make adjustments and work with what they have, I think Martz can do that, Turner could not until it was too late.
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If so, then I really don't have a problem with the process or the end decision. I do, however, still think they should have canned Lovie from the start.

 

 

While checking for confirmation I saw Adam Schefter's twitter that 12.3 million watched the pro bowl, which more than vindicates moving it to the SB city the week before. NFL hunger is still big right now, but after the SB it plummets into depression.

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And now Angelo is already concocting his plan for rolling Lovie and Martz if this doesn't work out......All in all though, I don't hate this myself. I think it's as good as we could expect or hope for, considering our head coach's lame duck status.

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