Re: Bears Offseason Thread

[DivineBovine]

I love it when the OC talks about what the other team is dictating, rather then what he could dictate:

 

"He said he veered from the plan in part because of game situations and the styles of defenses the Bears faced -- often opponents lined up their ends wide, which makes it more difficult to move the pocket."

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-pompei-bears-chicago-dec31,0,5974410.column

 

 

What a fool. He always seem to have some excuse. And his adjustments seemed to work so well this year. What are the odds this fool ever gets a job again.

[gflore34]

I love it when the OC talks about what the other team is dictating, rather then what he could dictate:

 

"He said he veered from the plan in part because of game situations and the styles of defenses the Bears faced -- often opponents lined up their ends wide, which makes it more difficult to move the pocket."

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-pompei-bears-chicago-dec31,0,5974410.column

 

 

What a fool. He always seem to have some excuse. And his adjustments seemed to work so well this year. What are the odds this fool ever gets a job again.

 

Lovie' next gig.

[jersey cubs fan]

I love it when the OC talks about what the other team is dictating, rather then what he could dictate:

 

"He said he veered from the plan in part because of game situations and the styles of defenses the Bears faced -- often opponents lined up their ends wide, which makes it more difficult to move the pocket."

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-pompei-bears-chicago-dec31,0,5974410.column

 

 

What a fool. He always seem to have some excuse. And his adjustments seemed to work so well this year. What are the odds this fool ever gets a job again.

 

I think the odds are high. Football coaches get recycled all the time.

[gflore34]

The success of Aromoshadu and moving Williams to LT alone are reason enough to fire Lovie, I still didn't catch his excuse for not playing Aromoshadu earlier. What was it?

[jersey cubs fan]

The success of Aromoshadu and moving Williams to LT alone are reason enough to fire Lovie, I still didn't catch his excuse for not playing Aromoshadu earlier. What was it?

 

Rashied Davis needed a job.

[gflore34]

The success of Aromoshadu and moving Williams to LT alone are reason enough to fire Lovie, I still didn't catch his excuse for not playing Aromoshadu earlier. What was it?

 

Rashied Davis needed a job.

 

Lovie Smith the Dusty Baker of the NFL.

[Banedon]

Aromashadu was injured early on in the season (preseason?). That accounted for him not being in there for a chunk of the early games. He still should've gotten an opportunity earlier than he has though.

 

Watched the Boise State-Oklahoma bowl game from a few years ago on ESPN Classic last night....gives me some hope that Iglesias can be something decent when he actually gets a chance too.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I love it when the OC talks about what the other team is dictating, rather then what he could dictate:

 

"He said he veered from the plan in part because of game situations and the styles of defenses the Bears faced -- often opponents lined up their ends wide, which makes it more difficult to move the pocket."

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-pompei-bears-chicago-dec31,0,5974410.column

 

 

What a fool. He always seem to have some excuse. And his adjustments seemed to work so well this year. What are the odds this fool ever gets a job again.

 

I think the odds are high. Football coaches get recycled all the time.

 

Exactly. I mean, Dick Jauron got another job for crying out loud.

[rawaction]

Aromashadu was injured early on in the season (preseason?). That accounted for him not being in there for a chunk of the early games. He still should've gotten an opportunity earlier than he has though.

 

Watched the Boise State-Oklahoma bowl game from a few years ago on ESPN Classic last night....gives me some hope that Iglesias can be something decent when he actually gets a chance too.

 

Aromashodu, I believe sprained his ankle in practice AFTER the preseason games. He was originally the #3, but couldn't play the first 2 weeks and Knox became the 3. Knox did so well that Aromashodu was kept inactive for a few more weeks and then never saw the field when he was active after the bye week. Cutler campaigned for him to get on the field because he is the team's biggest WR.

 

I'm sure Iglesias can play too. The Bears look like idiots for having Earl Bennett on the bench last year so Marty Booker could play. So, I'm guessing this is a similar case of the Bears not putting their best players on the field due to a veteran presence.

[DivineBovine]

Aromashadu was injured early on in the season (preseason?). That accounted for him not being in there for a chunk of the early games. He still should've gotten an opportunity earlier than he has though.

 

Watched the Boise State-Oklahoma bowl game from a few years ago on ESPN Classic last night....gives me some hope that Iglesias can be something decent when he actually gets a chance too.

 

Aromashodu, I believe sprained his ankle in practice AFTER the preseason games. He was originally the #3, but couldn't play the first 2 weeks and Knox became the 3. Knox did so well that Aromashodu was kept inactive for a few more weeks and then never saw the field when he was active after the bye week. Cutler campaigned for him to get on the field because he is the team's biggest WR.

 

I'm sure Iglesias can play too. The Bears look like idiots for having Earl Bennett on the bench last year so Marty Booker could play. So, I'm guessing this is a similar case of the Bears not putting their best players on the field due to a veteran presence.

 

 

 

 

This is what happens when you can't coach. You blame bad plays on inexperience on the part of the players. And you are afraid to put young guys out there who might make mistakes.

[rawaction]

That's why I say trade Hester. Aromashodu already has Cutler's trust. He has proven on the field he can play in the last 3 games. Iglesias was a relatively high draft pick w/ some upside, so he has to play next year. He also has some size. Also, Bennett has the familiarity w/ Cutler so he isn't going anywhere. That leaves Knox and Hester. Knox is younger, cheaper, and can do everything Hester can do.

 

You can get rid of Hester and Davis and bring in another WR with some size, and get another draft pick in the process.

[jersey cubs fan]

That's why I say trade Hester. Aromashodu already has Cutler's trust. He has proven on the field he can play in the last 3 games. Iglesias was a relatively high draft pick w/ some upside, so he has to play next year. He also has some size. Also, Bennett has the familiarity w/ Cutler so he isn't going anywhere. That leaves Knox and Hester. Knox is younger, cheaper, and can do everything Hester can do.

 

You can get rid of Hester and Davis and bring in another WR with some size, and get another draft pick in the process.

 

I would have no problem dealing Hester. I feel like the people in charge now kind of hang their hat on him a bit though.

[rawaction]

That's why I say trade Hester. Aromashodu already has Cutler's trust. He has proven on the field he can play in the last 3 games. Iglesias was a relatively high draft pick w/ some upside, so he has to play next year. He also has some size. Also, Bennett has the familiarity w/ Cutler so he isn't going anywhere. That leaves Knox and Hester. Knox is younger, cheaper, and can do everything Hester can do.

 

You can get rid of Hester and Davis and bring in another WR with some size, and get another draft pick in the process.

 

I would have no problem dealing Hester. I feel like the people in charge now kind of hang their hat on him a bit though.

 

I'm pretty sure they do. They think they snagged him early w/ a 2nd round pick...and he has been worth it...but was still a reach. They probably also think they were geniuses to move him to offense when it was inevitable from the start.

 

Even w/ Aromashodu's emergence and Iglesias' potential, I'm still not OK w/ the receiving corps. And if you cut Davis and bring in a WR, you have 6 capable WRs and can't get them all on the field anyway.

[Banedon]

I'm fine with trading Hester. Aromashadu has more #1 potential than Hester, imo. Bennett, Knox, and Iglesias are a good young WR mix. I'd like to see a veteran in there for them to learn from though.

[DivineBovine]

I'm not sure what the Bears could get for Hester. Probably not something great.

 

I can also see Hester ripping up the league on a team with a real offensive coordinator and decent QB.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think you have to get top half of the 2nd round or better before you consider dealing Hester. He's replacable, but he's still good enough to be worth more than just spare parts.

[rawaction]

Exactly. He's still a record breaking return man. Teams are starting to value the return game more an more. And he has shown he can be a serviceable WR with upside to be a strong #2 in a good offense. I think you could get a 2nd rounder for Hester.

[SpongeWorthy]

I would be surprised if you could get a 2nd for Hester now that he's not some return maestro any more.

[jaydee]

What is the deal with Iglesias?

[DivineBovine]

I would be surprised if you could get a 2nd for Hester now that he's not some return maestro any more.

 

 

Yeah, he hasn't run back a kick in a long time. And isn't he making like $10 million/year?

[Soul]

What is the deal with Iglesias?

He's on the Bennett plan. Maybe they'll play him for the last game.

 

What I do know is that you shouldn't believe anything reporters or coaches say about him until we see him in real game action.

[JonJayCutler]

Instead of trading Hester, why don't we just let Devin A. become our #1 WR (or #2 if we sign a #1 in the off-season), and move Hester back to KR/PR? He didn't have a bad year as a WR, but he seemed much more valuble when he was strictly returning kicks and punts, as I'm sure has been brought up many times already. After all, we went to the Super Bowl that way.

[Guest]

Instead of trading Hester, why don't we just let Devin A. become our #1 WR (or #2 if we sign a #1 in the off-season), and move Hester back to KR/PR? He didn't have a bad year as a WR, but he seemed much more valuble when he was strictly returning kicks and punts, as I'm sure has been brought up many times already. After all, we went to the Super Bowl that way.

 

What's to say he will return to top form as a kick returner?

[Butterscup1679666578]

Hester is an awful PR now. Wouldn't mind seeing him back at KR though.

[rawaction]

Hester is an awful PR now. Wouldn't mind seeing him back at KR though.

 

You will tomorrow, with Knox and Manning both out.

 

Hester is only 2 years removed from the most return TDs in an NFL season. He hasn't lost it. Teams have really done a good job at pinning him on the sideline or staying in their lanes against him. And again, you aren't just talking about a record breaking return man. No matter how far removed. Hester is a record breaking return man that also has back-to-back 50 catch seasons in one of the shakiest offenses in the league.

 

A team like Buffalo or Oakland and maybe even Arizona, if they lose Breaston this offseason; who are among the worst return teams in the league for a couple years running; would give up a 2nd for a potential elite return man who in 2 of the cases would be the team's best WR (assuming Buffalo doesn't re-sign T.O.).