Tiger Woods Discussion

[Guest]

This sure sounds like him...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/hear-tiger-panic-to-mistress-my-wife-may-be-calling-you-2009212

 

He's a terrible cheater. Why on earth would you leave a voice mail?

 

And costly. This will probably be the most expensive divorce in history.

 

I assume he has a prenup? If not he truly is stupid.

 

She would have been stupid to sign a prenup that allowed him to commit adultery, and who knows what else, without consequence. I have no idea what prenups say or if they can be overridden when someone commits such horrible acts against their spouses, but being caught nearly redhanded is probably as close as it gets.

[C.C.]

This sure sounds like him...

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/hear-tiger-panic-to-mistress-my-wife-may-be-calling-you-2009212

 

He's a terrible cheater. Why on earth would you leave a voice mail?

 

And costly. This will probably be the most expensive divorce in history.

 

I assume he has a prenup? If not he truly is stupid.

 

She would have been stupid to sign a prenup that allowed him to commit adultery, and who knows what else, without consequence. I have no idea what prenups say or if they can be overridden when someone commits such horrible acts against their spouses, but being caught nearly redhanded is probably as close as it gets.

 

The consequence is he'll lose his Wife and see his kids part time.

[E.J.]

Lesson to learn here: If you're rich and famous, never get married. You'll have tons of women basically throwing themselves at you. It's virtually impossible to stay faithful, no matter how hot your wife is.

[C.C.]

Lesson to learn here: If you're rich and famous, never get married. You'll have tons of women basically throwing themselves at you. It's virtually impossible to stay faithful, no matter how hot your wife is.

 

 

 

Or wait until your ready to make a lifetime commitment to someone. Obviously he wasn't.

 

Has nothing to do with her being hot or he being rich and famous.

[fibro]

media outlets are already alleging that wife Elin Nordegren has begun to assert herself, demanding that the billionaire golfer rip up the existing prenuptial agreement the couple has and create a new one and that he deposit a seven-figure sum of cash for her in a private bank account.

 

According to the Chicago Sun-Times , Nordegren would need to stay with Tiger for 10 years to collect a $20 million payoff, should the two ever split. That agreement has been shortened and the payoff increased “substantially,” the Sun-Times alleges. The couple has been married for five years and has two children.

 

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=tiger+prenup&aq=0z&aqi=g-z1g9&oq=tiger+pre&fp=befd3a870de5664a

[Mark Priors Calves]

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1916410,zwecker-tiger-woods-marriage-elin-prenup-120209.article

Also, don't look for Woods' wife, Elin, to be moving out of the couple's Windermere, FL., mansion anytime soon. The links legend's spouse is reportedly being paid a hefty seven-figure amount — immediately transfered into an account she alone controls — to stick with her husband

On top of that, my source indicated Elin Nordegren Woods, the mother of Tiger's two children, has demanded — and is getting — a total rewrite on the couple's prenuptial agreement making the incentives for her to remain Mrs. Tiger Woods even more enticing.

 

At this point, the couple needed to remain married for 10 years in order for Woods' wife to collect a splitsville settlement of $20 million. I'm being told that time frame has been shortened — and the dollar amount increased "substantially."

dammit, fibro's post wasn't there when i started mine.

Edited December 2, 2009 by Mark Prior's Calves

[C.C.]

Well there you go...

[wekse]

[expletive], i'd just split up with her...he's going to cheat on her again...and he'll probably get caught, like a dumbass.

[Wilson A2000]

Elin is willing to stay with Tiger for more cash probably to keep her quiet...a true Hollywood story. I wonder how much the original prenup was for. This is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals. I also wonder if the state police will look more closely at Tiger's traffic accident to see if Elin did injure Tiger beforehand.

 

This is getting ugly unfortunately.

[jersey cubs fan]

Lesson to learn here: If you're rich and famous, never get married. You'll have tons of women basically throwing themselves at you. It's virtually impossible to stay faithful, no matter how hot your wife is.

 

Or wait until your ready to make a lifetime commitment to someone. Obviously he wasn't.

 

Has nothing to do with her being hot or he being rich and famous.

 

He being rich and famous has a lot to do with it. He may have been truly in love and felt he was ready for a lifetime commitment, but pro athletes really need to wait, at least until they are out of their prime earnings years and/or out of their 20's. It's all well and good to talk about a committment, but a guy on the road with money is going to get hounded by extremely attractive women. I'm sure he's turned down about 100 times more than he's ended up with, but it only takes one, and it happens.

[fibro]

Interesting article by Charles Pierce of Esquire.

 

I can't say I'm surprised — either by the allegations or by what's ensued since Friday's wreck. Back in 1997, one of the worst-kept secrets on the PGA Tour was that Tiger was something of a hound. Everybody knew. Everybody had a story. Occasionally somebody saw it, but nobody wanted to talk about it, except in bar-room whispers late at night. Tiger's People at the International Management Group visibly got the vapors if you even implied anything about it. However, from that moment on, the marketing cocoon around him became almost impenetrable. The Tiger Woods that was constructed for corporate consumption was spotless and smooth, an edgeless brand easily peddled to sheikhs and shakers. The perfect marriage with the perfect kids slipped so easily into the narrative it seemed he'd been born married.

 

Anything dissonant was dealt with quickly and mercilessly. Tiger's caddy, an otherwise unemployable thug named Steve Williams, regularly harassed any spectator whom Williams thought might eventually harsh his man's mellow. The IMG handlers differed from Williams only in that they were slightly more polite. The golfing press became aware that stories about Tiger's temper, say, or about his ties to unsavory corporate grifters, would mean the end of access to the only golfer in the world who matters. There is a quick way to tell now which journalists have made this devil's bargain and which ones haven't — the ones insisting that this "accident" is somehow "not a story" are the sopranos in the chorus.

 

But the more impenetrable Tiger's cocoon was, the more fragile it became. It was increasingly vulnerable to anything that happened that was out of the control of the people who built and sustained it, and the events of last week certainly qualify. Now he's got one of those major Media Things on his hands, and there is nothing that he, nor IMG, nor the clinging sponsors, nor anyone else can do about it. He is going to be everyone's breakfast for the foreseeable future. (Among his many headaches, there is absolutely no way that the Enquirer quits on this story. See Edwards, John.) And he's going to be some kind of punch line for the most of the rest of his public career. There is some historical irony in all that, and not just for myself.

 

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/opinion/tiger-woods-accident-updates-legacy-120109#ixzz0YZZdbBW1

 

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/opinion/tiger-woods-accident-updates-legacy-120109

Edited December 2, 2009 by fibro

[C.C.]

It'll probably hurt his endorsements in the short run, but probably not for the long haul. He's already a billionaire, I'm sure he's not sweating it.

[jersey cubs fan]

is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals.

 

No it's not. They've already come out and said they are sticking by him. He's still a meal ticket. MJ wasn't even playing anymore when his marriage fell apart and that really didn't hurt him. This isn't going to damage Tiger at all.

[jersey cubs fan]

What I want to know is if Elin will ever appear green side for another tournament, because that will be highly viewed television.

[C.C.]

Tiger's PR would never let that happen. At least not for a while...

[shnsajax]

Give her $20 million and walk away. Thats like 3 months work for Tiger.

[Wilson A2000]

is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals.

 

No it's not. They've already come out and said they are sticking by him

 

That was before today's developments wasn't it? Michael Phelps lost a few endorsers after he was seen doing pot. I still think Tiger will lose a few endorsers too.

[shnsajax]

is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals.

 

No it's not. They've already come out and said they are sticking by him

 

That was before today's developments wasn't it? Michael Phelps lost a few endorsers after he was seen doing pot. I still think Tiger will lose a few endorsers too.

 

Phelps is no where close to as important as Tiger is as an endorser.

[Wilson A2000]

is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals.

 

No it's not. They've already come out and said they are sticking by him

 

That was before today's developments wasn't it? Michael Phelps lost a few endorsers after he was seen doing pot. I still think Tiger will lose a few endorsers too.

 

Phelps is no where close to as important as Tiger is as an endorser.

 

I think he is/was close to Woods. My point was that Phelps and Woods had multiple endorsement deals and Tiger is bound to lose something.

[Guest]

is looking like it will hurt Tiger's endorsement deals.

 

No it's not. They've already come out and said they are sticking by him

 

That was before today's developments wasn't it? Michael Phelps lost a few endorsers after he was seen doing pot. I still think Tiger will lose a few endorsers too.

 

He'll probably lose some in the short term but in the long term, he'll be fine.

 

Just look at Kobe for proof. What Tiger did is equal to what Kobe did and nowhere near what Kobe was accused of (and probably did) and Kobe is fine now.

[Sammy Sofa]

Tiger Woods long ago entered that insane ultra-global fame level a long time ago and has sustained it for nearly a decade. Michael Phelps wishes he could come even remotely close to that.

[SouthSideRyan]

There is a quick way to tell now which journalists have made this devil's bargain and which ones haven't — the ones insisting that this "accident" is somehow "not a story" are the sopranos in the chorus.

 

If Esquire had all this information before, and didn't report on it, weren't they in on the devil's bargain?

 

If it wasn't worthy news when they knew it to be true, then why is it worthy news now? Too many times "journalists seem to go with this "I knew all about this, and it disgusted me" bit. Journalists are so in bed with the people they cover, afraid of losing a source by reporting anything, that it cracks me up to see them haw hawing at other journalists covering their asses.

[treebird]

There is a quick way to tell now which journalists have made this devil's bargain and which ones haven't — the ones insisting that this "accident" is somehow "not a story" are the sopranos in the chorus.

 

If Esquire had all this information before, and didn't report on it, weren't they in on the devil's bargain?

 

If it wasn't worthy news when they knew it to be true, then why is it worthy news now? Too many times "journalists seem to go with this "I knew all about this, and it disgusted me" bit. Journalists are so in bed with the people they cover, afraid of losing a source by reporting anything, that it cracks me up to see them haw hawing at other journalists covering their asses.

 

my thoughts exactly. either run this stuff out there in advance of events and deal with the consequences, or shut up about it altogether.

[Wilson A2000]

Boy Parnevik came out strongly against Tiger. But I guess it makes sense in that he set up Tiger and Elin.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4707629

[fibro]

There is a quick way to tell now which journalists have made this devil's bargain and which ones haven't — the ones insisting that this "accident" is somehow "not a story" are the sopranos in the chorus.

 

If Esquire had all this information before, and didn't report on it, weren't they in on the devil's bargain?

 

If it wasn't worthy news when they knew it to be true, then why is it worthy news now? Too many times "journalists seem to go with this "I knew all about this, and it disgusted me" bit. Journalists are so in bed with the people they cover, afraid of losing a source by reporting anything, that it cracks me up to see them haw hawing at other journalists covering their asses.

 

It should be noted that Charles Pierce and Tiger have a little history.

 

Tiger Woods and I go back a long ways. A little bit over twelve years, truth be told. Back then, I wrote a profile of him just prior to his winning the 1997 Masters, the first major accomplishment of his professional career. Over the course of a day's worth of interviews, which were themselves the result of negotiations with his People at the International Management Group that were so protracted they should have been moved to Panmunjom, Tiger made some distasteful remarks and told some puerile and sexist jokes. Seeing as how they occurred during my limited interview time, I included them in my story, along with some not-overly-subtle intimations that Tiger had a reputation even among golfers as something of a chaser....

all that happened was that Tiger's People at the International Management Group accused me of wiretapping a limo driver. (Me and Gordon Liddy!) And that Tiger's father, Earl, whom I still miss, told Charlie Rose he hoped my story wouldn't do permanent damage to his son's career, and that Charlie Rose waved a copy of the magazine and told Earl he intended never to read the story. This is why Earl was an entertaining con man and Charlie Rose is a salon-sniffing Beltway yahoo.