Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[kujay]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

Yes, in that rarest and make-believe of circumstances, your position is not stupid.

 

But even having the argument is.

[jersey cubs fan]

1:37pm: USA Today's Bob Nightengale has Cubs officials saying they are close to a Bradley trade, and Nightengale thinks it'll be with the Rays. MLBTR's source continues to say there's nothing new, however.

 

Sounds like it will be Pat The Bat aferall, and we'll either flip him to an AL team or use him as a really expensive Jake Fox and then sign some garbage like Byrd or Podsednik.

 

Why would Tampa do this? They want out of Burrell's bad contract, but they are taking back a 2 year deal to get rid of a 1 year deal.

 

Maybe instead of paying $9m for Pat this year they pay $6m for Milton this year and $5m the next year. They save money in the short-term, acquire a reclamation project that could be a very cost effective player in 2011 as well. Or maybe they get even more of a break.

 

In short, Milton Bradley is a depressed asset right now. He's probably not worth his contract, but as a player he clearly has value. If you can get him for a fraction of his cost while getting rid of your own overpriced guy, it's a buy low and potentially sell high later scenario (what would he be worth if he OPSs 850 this season and is only owed $5m for 2011?) or buy low and hold scenario.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yes, in that rarest and make-believe of circumstances, your position is not stupid.

 

But even having the argument is.

 

I agree, it was stupid to argue against my very simple point.

[scarey]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

 

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

[kujay]

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

 

Maybe best to just let this one go.

[jersey cubs fan]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

 

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

 

I'm saying nobody is going to abandon the Cubs in this fashion.

[inari]

You know whose personality I hated even more than Bradley? Todd Hundley.

[UMFan83]

1:37pm: USA Today's Bob Nightengale has Cubs officials saying they are close to a Bradley trade, and Nightengale thinks it'll be with the Rays. MLBTR's source continues to say there's nothing new, however.

 

Sounds like it will be Pat The Bat aferall, and we'll either flip him to an AL team or use him as a really expensive Jake Fox and then sign some garbage like Byrd or Podsednik.

 

Why would Tampa do this? They want out of Burrell's bad contract, but they are taking back a 2 year deal to get rid of a 1 year deal.

 

Maybe instead of paying $9m for Pat this year they pay $6m for Milton this year and $5m the next year. They save money in the short-term, acquire a reclamation project that could be a very cost effective player in 2011 as well. Or maybe they get even more of a break.

 

In short, Milton Bradley is a depressed asset right now. He's probably not worth his contract, but as a player he clearly has value. If you can get him for a fraction of his cost while getting rid of your own overpriced guy, it's a buy low and potentially sell high later scenario (what would he be worth if he OPSs 850 this season and is only owed $5m for 2011?) or buy low and hold scenario.

 

This. I know a couple of Rays fans, and their opinion is that Burrell is washed up. Who knows if that's true, but if you can get someone likely to put up better numbers than Burrell (assuming he's healthy), get him for cheaper, and lock him up for another year, why wouldn't you? Remember, TB doesn't have someone ready to take Burrell's spot, they would love to replace him with a younger, better, cheaper player, which is what this is.

[ThePenguin11]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

 

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

 

Like, in a Dave Chappelle/Clayton Bigsby kinda way???

[jersey cubs fan]

This. I know a couple of Rays fans, and their opinion is that Burrell is washed up. Who knows if that's true, but if you can get someone likely to put up better numbers than Burrell (assuming he's healthy), get him for cheaper, and lock him up for another year, why wouldn't you? Remember, TB doesn't have someone ready to take Burrell's spot, they would love to replace him with a younger, better, cheaper player, which is what this is.

 

 

On top of that, Burrell is a free agent after this year. Even if he rebounds I doubt they offer arbitration, his value is low and they have next to no chance of getting anything out of him beyond this year barring a deadline deal. At least with Bradley, if they get him cheap, they have a chance of trading him later, if not just keeping him for 2 years at a greatly reduced cost.

[scarey]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

 

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

 

Like, in a Dave Chappelle/Clayton Bigsby kinda way???

 

I was waiting for someone to take that lob ball for a ride.

[ThePenguin11]

I was waiting for someone to take that lob ball for a ride.

 

Yeah, you kinda did groove that one, middle/in.

[Guancous]

and I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this conversation.

 

It's a pretty stupid one.

 

Does it always have be about race. Maybe it's just about Bradley being a petulant ass while in Chicago, just like he's been his entire career.

 

This really just needs to be done with. Not because the team will be better or worse with or without him, but because he is too much of a mental midget to deal with the situation like an adult.

 

It's only stupid if you don't know what is being said. I never said hating Milton Bradley makes you racist. I never said wanting him gone makes you racist. I never said anything of the sort. I've said repeatedly I think he's an ass. My point is that the mythological creature that is the Cubs fan who would abandon the team due to the presence of Milton Bradley is probably going to be a racist person. It's really not a controversial statement. It makes no accusation about anybody here because I'm fairly certain nobody here is going to abandon the Cubs (even if several people threaten to every season).

 

I'm talking about somebody saying, "I love the Cubs. But Milton Bradley is still on the team so I'm done with the team." A) It's very unlikely to happen. B) That rare creature is probably motivated by racial tendencies.

 

 

Are you saying that it's impossible for a black fan to abandon the Cubs in a similar fashion?

 

I'm saying nobody is going to abandon the Cubs in this fashion.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, someone already mentioned Todd Hundley.

Edited December 10, 2009 by Guancous

[17 Seconds]

man, i hate black people

[Sever82]

Tim Brown of Yahoo just tweeted that if a trade for bradley is close, its not to the rays.

[A-Cal]

Tim Brown of Yahoo just tweeted that if a trade for bradley is close, its not to the rays.

 

I am starting to see a pattern here.

[kujay]

Tim Brown of Yahoo just tweeted that if a trade for bradley is close, its not to the rays.

 

I am starting to see a pattern here.

 

Mystery team.

[17 Seconds]

the mystery team is the caucasians. bradley is being traded to the whites so he can stay in wrigley and people will love him

[Sever82]

Tim Brown of Yahoo just tweeted that if a trade for bradley is close, its not to the rays.

 

I am starting to see a pattern here.

 

Yup me too. Cubs have no trade partner for bradley but are trying to make a market for him. Doesn't look like its working if multiple teams are denying interest. Best bet is starting to look like he should start with the cubs and play. If he starts off well, Cubs could then either trade him or keep him.

[Tyrant]

Cubs could then either trade him or keep him.

 

Or, maybe something else besides these two things.

[Sever82]

Cubs could then either trade him or keep him.

 

Or, maybe something else besides these two things.

 

mmmmmmm ok. Point of this post was?

[inari]

Cubs could then either trade him or keep him.

 

Or, maybe something else besides these two things.

 

mmmmmmm ok. Point of this post was?

 

That they could kill him, also. Likely not an ideal option.

[Guancous]

Here's my impersonation of a casual Cubs fan:

 

"Ah, the winter meetings are over. Let's head over to NSBB and see what the Cubs did. Ah, they picked up a pitcher in the Rule V draft and... nothing else.

 

Wait, Milton Bradley is still on the team?"

[kujay]

Here's my impersonation of a casual Cubs fan:

 

"Ah, the winter meetings are over. Let's head over to NSBB and see what the Cubs did. Ah, they picked up a pitcher in the Rule V draft and... nothing else.

 

Wait, Milton Bradley is still on the team?"

 

That's your impersonation of me.

[Tyrant]

Cubs could then either trade him or keep him.

 

Or, maybe something else besides these two things.

 

mmmmmmm ok. Point of this post was?

 

Same as the point of your post, which pointed out that the Cubs' two options are to eventually keep or trade Bradley.