College Football - Week of Oct. 17th

[Vanilla Ice]

Bowls would definitely take Notre Dame over TCU.

[Derwood]

Bowls would definitely take Notre Dame over TCU.

 

and people would be pissed, especially considering a 12-0 TCU would likely have a higher BCS ranking than a 10-2 ND, but we'll see.

[Vanilla Ice]

Bowls would definitely take Notre Dame over TCU.

 

and people would be pissed, especially considering a 12-0 TCU would likely have a higher BCS ranking than a 10-2 ND, but we'll see.

Oh, I won't deny that.

[hawkeyecub]

It's amazing that no one was able to see the Ron Zook era playing out like this.

 

Wait...

[Magnetic Curses]

uconn cb, jasper howard, stabbed to death on campus.

[NewUserName]

a 10-2 ND team will make a BCS bowl, you can bank it. Isnt there some level that if ND reaches they would get an automatic bid?

[Derwood]

a 10-2 ND team will make a BCS bowl, you can bank it. Isnt there some level that if ND reaches they would get an automatic bid?

 

10 wins and top 12 in the BCS (I think....Andy would know)

 

But they don't get an auto-bid....that's just they qualifying criteria.

[Vanilla Ice]

Notre Dame does automatically qualify if they are in the top 8. They can be taken if they have 9 wins and a top-14 spot, too.

[Derwood]

okay, so Top 12 to qualify, but Top 8 is auto.

 

I'm sure the other independent teams have the same deal, right?

[Andy]

Top 14 to qualify, Top 8 to be automatic. Same deal as any other team not in a BCS conference. 9-3 won't get us in, even 10-2 will be tough if we don't blow teams out since the polls like to drop us for close wins.

[Derwood]

so if TCU and Boise St. both manage to finish Top 8, both are auto-bids?

[NewUserName]

Notre Dame does automatically qualify if they are in the top 8. They can be taken if they have 9 wins and a top-14 spot, too.

 

If they win out and some of their competition plays well I dont think it is impossible for them to be top 8. My guess is they will not win out though.

[Tracer Bullet]

Notre Dame does automatically qualify if they are in the top 8. They can be taken if they have 9 wins and a top-14 spot, too.

 

If they win out and some of their competition plays well I dont think it is impossible for them to be top 8. My guess is they will not win out though.

 

Maybe. Pitt's going to be the biggest remaining test, though Stanford won't be a cake walk.

[Andy]

so if TCU and Boise St. both manage to finish Top 8, both are auto-bids?

I believe only one small-conference team is guaranteed a bid. I remember this discussion going on when BSU was undefeated last year (which seems like eons ago, being that we're 0-7, but anyway) and that's the way I think it goes. ND is factored in with the big boys so them getting in wouldn't keep both TCU and Boise out, but I believe only one of them can get in automatically.

 

Boise was eligible last year I believe but since Utah was already in, Boise was not taken.

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't know that 10-2 guarantees ND a BCS berth.

 

There are 10 slots available. Barring any upsets, both Florida and Alabama are in (even though one will beat the other in the SEC title game). Five more spots for Big Ten, ACC, Big East, Big 12 and Pac 10 champs. That leaves 3 open slots.

 

Let's say Penn State wins out and finishes 11-1 and Boise St. and TCU go undefeated....who would you take out to put ND in? What if Texas goes 12-0 but gets upset in the Big XII title game?

 

I'd take ND over all 3 of those teams, but that's just me. I imagine you feel the same way about Penn State.

 

It's no guarantee that ND goes 10-2. But if they do, they will likely have beaten 4-6 bowl teams and lost to 2 bowl teams by a combined 11 points. First things first, let's see them beat the brats from BC.

[Soul]

It's amazing that no one was able to see the Ron Zook era playing out like this.

 

Wait...

The lack of progress is still astonishing, even if you should be expecting it.

[NCCubFan]

so if TCU and Boise St. both manage to finish Top 8, both are auto-bids?

I believe only one small-conference team is guaranteed a bid. I remember this discussion going on when BSU was undefeated last year (which seems like eons ago, being that we're 0-7, but anyway) and that's the way I think it goes. ND is factored in with the big boys so them getting in wouldn't keep both TCU and Boise out, but I believe only one of them can get in automatically.

 

Boise was eligible last year I believe but since Utah was already in, Boise was not taken.

That's my recollection from last year's Utah, BSU, & BSU discussions. Only one team from a non-BCS conference gets an automatic bid regardless of how many qualify. I remember there was a scenario where a second non-BCS team COULD get a bid (I think it had to do with how many second place teams from BCS conferences qualify), but it's not automatic.

[Andy]

1 Alabama (39) 7-0 1447

2 Florida (20) 6-0 1434

3 Texas 6-0 1365

4 USC 5-1 1213

5 Cincinnati 6-0 1163

6 Boise State 6-0 1156

7 Iowa 7-0 1092

8 Miami (FL) 5-1 1056

9 LSU 5-1 1014

10 TCU 6-0 1001

11 Georgia Tech 6-1 861

12 Oregon 5-1 849

13 Penn State 6-1 753

14 Oklahoma State 5-1 690

15 Virginia Tech 5-2 684

16 Brigham Young 6-1 601

17 Houston 5-1 478

18 Ohio State 5-2 373

19 Utah 5-1 350

20 Pittsburgh 6-1 330

21 Texas Tech 5-2 286

22 West Virginia 5-1 205

23 South Carolina 5-2 159

24 Kansas 5-1 120

25 Oklahoma 3-3 117

 

ND dropped one spot to 26 and will be back in the polls next week if they win because Kansas and Oklahoma play each other.

 

The first BCS rankings come out around 4 pm so I'll use those for next week's thread.

[Grit amp Heart]

if they win it does not mean they will be back in the polls.

[Andy]

if they win it does not mean they will be back in the polls.

Allow me to rephrase. If we win and the pollsters deem it lopsided enough to not take votes away, ND will be back in the polls.

[Grit amp Heart]

coaches

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

[ISUCubsFan]

so if TCU and Boise St. both manage to finish Top 8, both are auto-bids?

I believe only one small-conference team is guaranteed a bid. I remember this discussion going on when BSU was undefeated last year (which seems like eons ago, being that we're 0-7, but anyway) and that's the way I think it goes. ND is factored in with the big boys so them getting in wouldn't keep both TCU and Boise out, but I believe only one of them can get in automatically.

 

Boise was eligible last year I believe but since Utah was already in, Boise was not taken.

That's my recollection from last year's Utah, BSU, & BSU discussions. Only one team from a non-BCS conference gets an automatic bid regardless of how many qualify. I remember there was a scenario where a second non-BCS team COULD get a bid (I think it had to do with how many second place teams from BCS conferences qualify), but it's not automatic.

 

Here's a link to the BCS selection procedures: http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

 

The not-so short version is ND is automatic if they're top 8 (ND-specific rule) and at-large eligible if they're top 14 with 9 wins (same criteria for everyone else). One non-BCS+ND team is automatic if they finish top 12 or top 16 and better than a BCS champ. Other non-BCS teams can be selected as an at-large, but they would either need to be selected over a BCS team or be the only team eligible to be selected with the last at-large pick. Because of the two per conference rule, that means you would have 6 BCS champs, 2 at larges from 2 BCS conferences, an automatic non-BCS team, and another non-BCS team in the top 14. Basically 4 BCS conferences would have to have no at-large candidates (non-champions) in the top 14 (no ND either). It was within the realm of possibility for a while last year when the SEC and Big XII were dominating, but it's very unlikely.

[Grit amp Heart]

if they win it does not mean they will be back in the polls.

Allow me to rephrase. If we win and the pollsters deem it lopsided enough to not take votes away, ND will be back in the polls.

if ball state wins there's no way they'd be ranked.

[Andy]

if they win it does not mean they will be back in the polls.

Allow me to rephrase. If we win and the pollsters deem it lopsided enough to not take votes away, ND will be back in the polls.

if ball state wins there's no way they'd be ranked.

What on Earth are you talking about?

[NewUserName]

So do you think the writers actually looked at 7 weeks of FB and came to the conclusion that Alabama's body of work is the most impressive and voted them number 1, or do you think it is just a knee jerk reaction to Florida's close victory or Arkansas yesterday?