Brewers option JJ Hardy, DFA Bill Hall

[Smack]

Wait, Hardy was #8 in OPS for all SS (with 500 PA) two years ago and #4 in OPS for all SS (with 500 PA) last year. I believe he was injured the year before that. If the Brewers trade him now - that would be very Cub like. Trading him at his least valuable point. Granted, he's never been an OBP guy but there aren't a whole lot of SS out there who can hit you 20-25 HRs. He was progressing, he's just turning 28 in a couple weeks, and he's incredibly streaky if I recall (he OPSd .888 in May). I don't think there's any reason he can't be back around an .800 OPS with 25 HRs again next year. I don't have any of his 'advanced' defensive ratings, but I watch a fair number of Brewer games and he doesn't seem to be a defensive liabilty. Oh, and he's not very expensive. I hope they move him for a garbage 5th starter and watch him return to form next year. He's no super star, but he'll have a better carere than Alcides Escobar...

[dew1679666265]

Wait, Hardy was #8 in OPS for all SS (with 500 PA) two years ago and #4 in OPS for all SS (with 500 PA) last year. I believe he was injured the year before that. If the Brewers trade him now - that would be very Cub like. Trading him at his least valuable point. Granted, he's never been an OBP guy but there aren't a whole lot of SS out there who can hit you 20-25 HRs. He was progressing, he's just turning 28 in a couple weeks, and he's incredibly streaky if I recall (he OPSd .888 in May). I don't think there's any reason he can't be back around an .800 OPS with 25 HRs again next year. I don't have any of his 'advanced' defensive ratings, but I watch a fair number of Brewer games and he doesn't seem to be a defensive liabilty. Oh, and he's not very expensive. I hope they move him for a garbage 5th starter and watch him return to form next year. He's no super star, but he'll have a better carere than Alcides Escobar...

 

He's making $6.8 million this year, $8.4 million next year and a $9.25 million club option for 2011.

 

He's fairly expensive.

[Smack]

Ah, ESPN shows 4.65M this year.

 

edit: Wait, where did you get your numbers? I googled it and everything I see says he's on a 1-year 4.65M deal.

 

edit again: you're probably thinking Bill Hall

[dew1679666265]

Ah, ESPN shows 4.65M this year.

 

edit: Wait, where did you get your numbers? I googled it and everything I see says he's on a 1-year 4.65M deal.

 

edit again: you're probably thinking Bill Hall

 

Wow, I read through that whole thing and thought Bill Hall. Yes, those are Hall's contract numbers, in case you're interested in them. :D

 

Hardy is fairly cheap this year.

[Outshined_One]

Ah, ESPN shows 4.65M this year.

 

edit: Wait, where did you get your numbers? I googled it and everything I see says he's on a 1-year 4.65M deal.

 

edit again: you're probably thinking Bill Hall

 

Yep.

[Soul]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next head to roll is Macha's. It was pretty clear during the press conference that Melvin wasn't happy with the way Macha's been running the team, and we got that sense earlier in the year with the Mat Gamel situation (Melvin eventually had to send Gamel down because Macha just wasn't playing him and was wasting service time). He only signed a two year deal before this season, setting the Brewers up to have to make a decision this offseason -- they traditionally hate having their managers enter the final year of their contract and have to answer job security questions. Either Macha gets and extension this offseason or he gets fired, and I'm more willing to bet that Willie Randolph or someone else manages this team next year.

 

It's interesting, what do they expect? Last year they had much better starting pitching. This year it's as bad as the Cubs have become without Lilly and Z.

 

Macha's no miracle worker, but who is? They gave Yost the world at the trade deadline last year, and he eeked out a playoff berth. They gave Macha nothing, so now he's fired (potentially).

 

I mean, it's his first year. Just seems really strange to me. I wonder if this is more about wanting a manager who will yell and scream more. Macha's very reserved.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next head to roll is Macha's. It was pretty clear during the press conference that Melvin wasn't happy with the way Macha's been running the team, and we got that sense earlier in the year with the Mat Gamel situation (Melvin eventually had to send Gamel down because Macha just wasn't playing him and was wasting service time). He only signed a two year deal before this season, setting the Brewers up to have to make a decision this offseason -- they traditionally hate having their managers enter the final year of their contract and have to answer job security questions. Either Macha gets and extension this offseason or he gets fired, and I'm more willing to bet that Willie Randolph or someone else manages this team next year.

 

It's interesting, what do they expect? Last year they had much better starting pitching. This year it's as bad as the Cubs have become without Lilly and Z.

 

Macha's no miracle worker, but who is? They gave Yost the world at the trade deadline last year, and he eeked out a playoff berth. They gave Macha nothing, so now he's fired (potentially).

 

I mean, it's his first year. Just seems really strange to me. I wonder if this is more about wanting a manager who will yell and scream more. Macha's very reserved.

 

If the last part is correct, doesn't seem Randolph would be their guy then, unless my impression of him is way off. Wonder who else they'd be looking at.

[RedFlash]

Macha's no miracle worker, but who is? They gave Yost the world at the trade deadline last year, and he eeked out a playoff berth. They gave Macha nothing, so now he's fired (potentially).

 

Didn't Yost get fired REALLY late in the season last yr and replac with Sveum?

[Ball And Glove]

Yost was fired with about 2 weeks left in the season, IIRC. Randolph never seemed like the yelling-and-screaming type in New York, but didn't the Mets retain Manuel because he was more laid back? From what I remember of Randolph, he wasn't much for public criticisms, but he ran a very structured clubhouse after operating under Joe Torre for so long. Maybe the Brewers will look at him as a possible replacement, but it's hard to tell what Melvin will do at this point. I only brought up the possibility of retaining Randolph because he was doing a lot of good work with Rickie Weeks before Weeks got hurt, and he seemed to connect with some of the younger players on the team.

 

In Bill Hall news, apparently Doug Melvin has a couple interested teams and expects to complete a trade before the DFA deadline on Friday. Cincinnati is said to be interested and looking to shed ridiculous contracts of their own. I'd love to get Harang for Hall and some other pieces, but I wouldn't be too happy if Arroyo was coming to Milwaukee in that deal. Seems like either Harang or Arroyo are the two best possibilities.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'd love for Harang to stay in the Central as well

[Little Slide Rooter]

Mariners Acquire Bill Hall

By Eddie Schmid [August 19 at 5:05pm CST]

According to the Seattle Times' Geoff Baker, the Mariners have acquired Bill Hall from the Brewers. There's an announcement expected before game time. According to Baker's sources, the Brewers will receive minor-league pitcher Ruben "Buddy" Flores in return. The Brewers will reportedly pay the rest of the $6.8MM salary due Hall this year and a large portion of his $8.4MM he earns in 2010.

[NCCubFan]

This definitely means the end of the Adrian Beltre era in Seattle now that they have the Best Third Baseman In Baseball.