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God, he really sucks. How many games has he NOT either given up a run or allowed an inherited runner to score?

 

Just because you wasted $5 million on this guy, Jimbo, doesn't mean you have to keep him on the major league roster. Have him go be the bat boy in Boise or something.

 

And tell him to take Aaron Miles with him. Make them both walk.

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Whether he has the talent to be a quality major league pitcher or not, he is never going to reach his potential in his current role. The Cubs need to decide whether he is going to be a starter or reliever, then let him work on it in the minors. Recalling him in a panic to rot in the Cubs bullpen isn't helping him or the team.
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He's given up an ER in 6 of his last 7 appearances and 7 of 10 since he was recalled from Iowa. That's really bad and it's absolutely incredible that he's still on the team and being used semi-regularly. If he's on the team, and he shouldn't, he should only pitch when were up or down by 5 runs or more. He has become David Patton.
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Wait, so you're telling me a pitcher with crappy minor league numbers is doing crappy in the majors? I don't believe it.

 

Samardzija is just not that good and never has been.

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Wait, so you're telling me a pitcher with crappy minor league numbers is doing crappy in the majors? I don't believe it.

 

Samardzija is just not that good and never has been.

 

Well training camp is in sessions, maybe the Cubs can get him to go over to the Bears....

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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

Maybe he's been rushed to the majors (considering he sucks), but I'm not even looking at his major league numbers to determine he sucks. I'm looking at his minor league numbers.

 

Was he rushed when he was getting destroyed in A+ at age 22? How about when he sucked at AA at age 23? Rushed?

 

He only has 219 k's in 352.2 career minor league innings.... and less than a third of those innings are past AA. That's pretty terrible for a guy who also has crappy control. The most success he's had was at ages 23 and 24 in AAA when he put up WHIPs of like 1.30. Neat.

 

For a guy who got a big signing bonus and a NTC... yeah, he sucks.

 

You can keep calling me the D word though if it makes you feel better.

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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

Maybe he's been rushed to the majors (considering he sucks), but I'm not even looking at his major league numbers to determine he sucks. I'm looking at his minor league numbers.

 

Was he rushed when he was getting destroyed in A+ at age 22? How about when he sucked at AA at age 23? Rushed?

 

He only has 219 k's in 352.2 career minor league innings.... and less than a third of those innings are past AA. That's pretty terrible for a guy who also has crappy control. The most success he's had was at ages 23 and 24 in AAA when he put up WHIPs of like 1.30. Neat.

 

For a guy who got a big signing bonus and a NTC... yeah, he sucks.

 

You can keep calling me the D word though if it makes you feel better.

 

All good points until the end. No one called you the 'D word'.

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From what I've heard he doesn't really have any good offspeed pitches to go along with his fastball, so I don't understand why they won't send him down to work on those. Do what the Giants did to Lincecum to develop his changeup: let him start games and throw nothing but that pitch. Just don't rush him to the majors and watch him suck.
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You can keep calling me the D word though if it makes you feel better.

dexter?

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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

Maybe he's been rushed to the majors (considering he sucks), but I'm not even looking at his major league numbers to determine he sucks. I'm looking at his minor league numbers.

 

Was he rushed when he was getting destroyed in A+ at age 22? How about when he sucked at AA at age 23? Rushed?

 

He only has 219 k's in 352.2 career minor league innings.... and less than a third of those innings are past AA. That's pretty terrible for a guy who also has crappy control. The most success he's had was at ages 23 and 24 in AAA when he put up WHIPs of like 1.30. Neat.

 

For a guy who got a big signing bonus and a NTC... yeah, he sucks.

 

You can keep calling me the D word though if it makes you feel better.

 

All good points until the end. No one called you the 'D word'.

 

i thought it was pretty clear he was implying it when he said this-

 

can we say d*** on here?
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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

Maybe he's been rushed to the majors (considering he sucks), but I'm not even looking at his major league numbers to determine he sucks. I'm looking at his minor league numbers.

 

Was he rushed when he was getting destroyed in A+ at age 22? How about when he sucked at AA at age 23? Rushed?

 

He only has 219 k's in 352.2 career minor league innings.... and less than a third of those innings are past AA. That's pretty terrible for a guy who also has crappy control. The most success he's had was at ages 23 and 24 in AAA when he put up WHIPs of like 1.30. Neat.

 

For a guy who got a big signing bonus and a NTC... yeah, he sucks.

 

You can keep calling me the D word though if it makes you feel better.

 

All good points until the end. No one called you the 'D word'.

 

i thought it was pretty clear he was implying it when he said this-

 

can we say d*** on here?

 

He was refering to this

 

I wish he was more like this Shark:

 

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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

 

Considering this is his second year of year round baseball. And he's never spent a full year in the minors despite coming out of college being extremely raw. I'd say it's safe to say he was rushed.

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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

 

Considering this is his second year of year round baseball. And he's never spent a full year in the minors despite coming out of college being extremely raw. I'd say it's safe to say he was rushed.

 

This is his 3rd full year. He spent all of 2007 in the minors and then half the year in 2008 before coming up to the majors.

 

I do definitely believe he still has been rushed a little bit though considering how raw he was coming out. He was just starting to really get it together in AA/AAA his last 10 starts he was there when he got up to the majors. That was ok for last year in the playoff push, but they should have kept him down all year this year to work on those other pitches.

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Rushed or not, we have enough quality relievers in Iowa that we should be using them instead of Shark. If Shark has a future with this team, its as a starter, so they should be bringing him up as such. Jeff Stevens, John Gaub, Blake Parker, and Justin Berg should all be given a shot at the final spot in the pen.
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"Incredibly rushed"? Really? He's 24 and didn't even hit AAA until last season.

 

 

Considering this is his second year of year round baseball. And he's never spent a full year in the minors despite coming out of college being extremely raw. I'd say it's safe to say he was rushed.

 

I already went over this. I already admitted he was rushed to the majors. But like I said, that's not what I'm basing my opinion on. I'm basing my opinion on his crappy minor league numbers. He wasn't rushed when he was getting lit up at A+ at age 22 and at AA at 23. Anyways, even an unpolished/learning pitcher who is supposed to have strikeout stuff misses bats. Something Samardzija hasn't done in his minor league career.

 

Oh and this is not his second year of year round baseball. Not sure where that came from. Plus it's a weak excuse anyways.

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He's only got 350 sporadic minor league innings. He's pretty much turning into the poster boy for why wasting options on a guy and rushing him is stupid. He's nowhere near established as a major leaguer yet, and he doesn't have many pro innings under his belt. As a college pitcher that may not be a big deal, but he had limited college innings as well. The Cubs needed to have him starting in the minors all last year and most of this year. But once again stupid decision making processes are wasting the developmental years of a guy who clearly needs developing. Throwing and inning or two once a week is not going to make Samardzija better. He might one day be a quality major league reliever (I highly doubt he'll ever be a good starter), but he won't be if he never gets to work on his game.
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Everyone's right. He has been rushed in the sense that he is pitching at levels he doesn't deserve. He also sucks really, really badly and has shown nothing to indicate that he's a potential MLB-quality pitcher (except for a fluky 27 innings of a pretty ERA that came with a mediocre WHIP, awful control and a lot of unearned runs).
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He needs to be sent to the minors to work on his control and secondary pitches. He's a liability up here right now.

 

Unfortunately they've already wasted most of the season not getting him those innings he needs. He needs 50+ more innings just to match last years workload, and he's not going to get it. They've only got about 30 games left in the minors.

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