Players clearing waivers

[Little Slide Rooter]

Billy Wagner Claimed On Waivers

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 21 at 2:28pm CST]

Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that an unidetified team has claimed Billy Wagner on waivers. Wagner, who has $2.7MM coming his way before the end of the season, will make $8MM next year if his team doesn't buy him out for $1MM. The Mets now have three days to work out a trade with the claiming team. Afterwards, they can either pull him back off waivers or allow the other team to take him and his contract away, Alex Rios-style.

 

Maybe its the Cubs. I know it doesnt matter for this year, but if he does well, you could get him for 8 mil next year, whioch sounds like a lot for a closer, but at least you dont have to give a multi year deal to soemone like Valverde or Soriano.

[Banedon]

Why bother now?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Why bother now?

 

Because Wagner could potentially help next year.

[Rusch33]

Cubs didn't claim him.

[CubColtPacer]

BTW, Bruce has said multiple times on his blog that the Cubs have no interest in Wagner. Now, that doesn't completely rule it out (the Cubs front office might have gotten desperate in the last couple days with the bullpen performance recently) but I'd consider it very unlikely that the Cubs were the ones who claimed him.

[Rusch33]

Ken Rosenthal said that the Cubs didn't claim him.

[Derwood]

Claiming a closer is only useful if you can actually get to the 9th with a lead

[Keener98]

Why bother now?

 

Because Wagner could potentially help next year.

 

Exactly. Would have been a good gamble. Id take Wagner at 8mil for 1 year, over Valverde or Soriano.

[dew1679666265]

Why bother now?

 

Because Wagner could potentially help next year.

 

Exactly. Would have been a good gamble. Id take Wagner at 8mil for 1 year, over Valverde or Soriano.

 

Depending on Soriano's cost I'd take him over Wagner. The two have put up similar numbers in their careers, but Soriano is only 29 and Wagner is 39. The advantage Wagner would have is that he'd only be on a one-year deal, while Soriano would likely command 2-3 years.

 

Soriano career: 2.83 ERA/1.01 WHIP/337:96 K:BB/312 IP

Wagner career: 2.40 ERA/1.00 WHIP/1068:270 K:BB/819 IP

[Keener98]

Why bother now?

 

Because Wagner could potentially help next year.

 

Exactly. Would have been a good gamble. Id take Wagner at 8mil for 1 year, over Valverde or Soriano.

 

Depending on Soriano's cost I'd take him over Wagner. The two have put up similar numbers in their careers, but Soriano is only 29 and Wagner is 39. The advantage Wagner would have is that he'd only be on a one-year deal, while Soriano would likely command 2-3 years.

 

Soriano career: 2.83 ERA/1.01 WHIP/337:96 K:BB/312 IP

Wagner career: 2.40 ERA/1.00 WHIP/1068:270 K:BB/819 IP

 

Yea all things being equal, Id take Soriano as well. But we both know Soriano is going to get a 2-4 year deal, and I really dont want to hand out any multi year deals to the bullpen. Im hoping for Wagner for a year closing, with Marmol and Guzman setting up, with Stevens, in there as well. Then when next year is over hopefully Marmol, Guz, or Stevens would be willing to step in and replace Wagner, and bring in some more kids to the pen. I hate spending money and years on the bullpen. This would allow us to go pretty cheap in the pen, with some good quality for the next few years.

[RedVerbs]

It was the Red Sox

[Clem Fandango]

It was the Red Sox

 

Of course it was, they haven't met the 36 trade quota they set for themselves this year yet

[dew1679666265]

Why bother now?

 

Because Wagner could potentially help next year.

 

Exactly. Would have been a good gamble. Id take Wagner at 8mil for 1 year, over Valverde or Soriano.

 

Depending on Soriano's cost I'd take him over Wagner. The two have put up similar numbers in their careers, but Soriano is only 29 and Wagner is 39. The advantage Wagner would have is that he'd only be on a one-year deal, while Soriano would likely command 2-3 years.

 

Soriano career: 2.83 ERA/1.01 WHIP/337:96 K:BB/312 IP

Wagner career: 2.40 ERA/1.00 WHIP/1068:270 K:BB/819 IP

 

Yea all things being equal, Id take Soriano as well. But we both know Soriano is going to get a 2-4 year deal, and I really dont want to hand out any multi year deals to the bullpen. Im hoping for Wagner for a year closing, with Marmol and Guzman setting up, with Stevens, in there as well. Then when next year is over hopefully Marmol, Guz, or Stevens would be willing to step in and replace Wagner, and bring in some more kids to the pen. I hate spending money and years on the bullpen. This would allow us to go pretty cheap in the pen, with some good quality for the next few years.

 

I can understand that. Soriano's extreme consistency every year might make him an exception, but he is also 30.

[chuckywang]

So Wagner wants his option declined in order for him to waive his NTC. Uh ... wouldn't any team decline his option anyways? Nobody wants to pay $8mil (ok more like $7mil cause of the $1mil buyout) for a 38 year old pitcher just coming off Tommy John.

[jersey cubs fan]

So Wagner wants his option declined in order for him to waive his NTC. Uh ... wouldn't any team decline his option anyways? Nobody wants to pay $8mil (ok more like $7mil cause of the $1mil buyout) for a 38 year old pitcher just coming off Tommy John.

 

Not necessarily. Some teams might view that as the right price.

[NCCubFan]

Wagner also reportedly demanded that the Red Sox guarantee that they will not offer him arbitration so a team wouldn't have to give up compensation to sign him.

[Prior4CyYoung]

He agreed at the last moment and accepted the deal. The espn article says the red sox agreed not to pick up his option next year but they can offer him arbitration in the offseason if they want. So he got 1 of the 2 things he wanted out of the deal not bad.

[NCCubFan]

He may have been asking for both with the idea of leaving some wiggle room to get what he really wanted.

[Proven Veteran]

He may have been asking for both with the idea of leaving some wiggle room to get what he really wanted.

 

 

He really didn't want the option picked up, because he wants to close and get to 400 saves. I don't think the money was the question.

[NCCubFan]

He may have been asking for both with the idea of leaving some wiggle room to get what he really wanted.

 

 

He really didn't want the option picked up, because he wants to close and get to 400 saves. I don't think the money was the question.

I wasn't thinking of money. I was thinking that he might have asked for both the guarantee of not picking up the option and the guarantee of not being offered arbitration because it gave him some negotiating room. He could agree to drop his demand of not being offered arbitration as long as he got his wish of not having the option exercised.

[Little Slide Rooter]

http://msn.foxsports.com/...among-Brewers-on-waivers

 

The Brewers reportedly placed a bunch of players on wiavers. The list is said to include, acording to Brewerfan Trevor Hoffman, Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez, and Jason Kendall. They can probably get some decent prospects for most of those guys, especially Cameron and Hoffman.

[Keener98]

http://msn.foxsports.com/...among-Brewers-on-waivers

 

The Brewers reportedly placed a bunch of players on wiavers. The list is said to include, acording to Brewerfan Trevor Hoffman, Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez, and Jason Kendall. They can probably get some decent prospects for most of those guys, especially Cameron and Hoffman.

 

 

I would think the Phillies would be jumping to get Hoffman at this point.

[Clem Fandango]

http://msn.foxsports.com/...among-Brewers-on-waivers

 

The Brewers reportedly placed a bunch of players on wiavers. The list is said to include, acording to Brewerfan Trevor Hoffman, Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez, and Jason Kendall. They can probably get some decent prospects for most of those guys, especially Cameron and Hoffman.

 

 

I would think the Phillies would be jumping to get Hoffman at this point.

 

He's going ot the Red Sox along with the rest of those players and any other players placed on waivers today

[Ball And Glove]

http://msn.foxsports.com/...among-Brewers-on-waivers

 

The Brewers reportedly placed a bunch of players on wiavers. The list is said to include, acording to Brewerfan Trevor Hoffman, Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez, and Jason Kendall. They can probably get some decent prospects for most of those guys, especially Cameron and Hoffman.

 

I wouldn't count on it. With only a month left in the season, there's not much incentive for any team to give the Brewers much value for those players, especially with guys like Hoffman who will probably be a Type A in the offseason. Guys like Kendall and Looper I'd give up for a bag of baseballs, though. Someone has to want a heavily tattooed scary looking back up catcher who "calls a good game," right?