7/10/09 Cardinals(Carpenter) @ Cubs (Harden) 1:20 PM WGN

[Hall7810]

Dude must be Steve Stone

[PrimeTime]

I think he's said the word " crucial " 347 times in the booth today.

[Arnold Layne]

Was it Hendrys fault today when we smoked balls right at them all day?

 

Lamest possible excuse there is in baseball. Hitting the ball right at fielders happens so often it's not ever worth mentioning.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The PECOTA-adjusted playoff odds report should drop below 18% after today, maybe even a little further.

[Sammy Sofa]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Kinney in to pitch for St Louis

K. Hill grounded out to second, 4-3

Hoffpauir, pinch hitting for Stevens, doubled to right center field

Johnson grounded out to second, 4-3 , Hoffpauir to third

Theriot walked

Franklin in to pitch for St. Louis

Theriot took second base on defensive indifference

Fukudome grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 2 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
St. Louis       1 0 2 0 1 4 0 0 0              8 10  0
CUBS            0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0              3  9  2

 

W:Carpenter (7-3)

S:none

L:Harden (5-6)

 

T:2:57

A:40,687

 

Home runs:

St. Louis: Pujols (32)

CUBS: D Lee (17)

 

St. Louis      IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Carpenter     6.0  7  3  3  2  6  1  93
McClellan     1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  18
Motte         1.0  1  0  0  0  1  0  12
Kinney        0.7  1  0  0  1  0  0  16
Franklin      0.3  0  0  0  0  0  0   2

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Harden        5.0  7  4  4  4  6  1 101
Heilman       1.0  2  4  4  3  0  0  34
Samardzija    2.0  1  0  0  2  1  0  32
Stevens       1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  12

[Arnold Layne]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

[Fred Hornkohl]

         St. Louis        CUBS
P/PA          4.07        3.62
RBI%          0.20        0.11
R/BR          0.42        0.25
BA           0.303       0.250
OBP          0.463       0.308
SLG          0.485       0.389
OPS          0.948       0.697
ERA           3.00        8.00
BB/9          3.00        9.00
K/9           7.00        7.00

[Hairyducked Idiot]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

But there was a lot of concern that this team had some serious downside on offense, with all of our best hitters except for Soto being past their primes, and Soto being a catcher, which is always unpredictable.

[illiniguy]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

But there was a lot of concern that this team had some serious downside on offense, with all of our best hitters except for Soto being past their primes, and Soto being a catcher, which is always unpredictable.

Isn't Ramirez 29?

[Fred Hornkohl]

Friday 10 July 2009

St. Louis @ CUBS

13:20

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
St. Louis       1 0 2 0 1 4 0 0 0              8 10  0
CUBS            0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0              3  9  2



St. Louis
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Schumaker     2b       5   1   2   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Rasmus        cf       3   2   1   0   1   2   3   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pujols        1b       3   3   2   2   2   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0
Ludwick       rf       3   1   3   4   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0
Ankiel        lf       5   0   0   1   1   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Molina        c        4   0   0   0   0   1   5   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
Thurston      3b       4   0   1   0   1   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Carpenter     p        2   0   0   0   1   2   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
J Hoffpauir   ph       0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
McClellan     p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Motte         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Duncan        ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Kinney        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ryan          ss       3   1   1   0   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                33   8  10   7   9   7  24   0   0   1   1   0   1   1   1   1   0



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Johnson       cf       5   0   0   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Theriot       ss       4   1   2   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Fukudome      rf       5   0   0   0   0   0   5   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
D Lee         1b       3   1   1   3   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
A Ramirez     3b       4   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Soriano       lf       3   0   1   0   1   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Fontenot      2b       4   0   1   0   0   3   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
K. Hill       c        4   0   0   0   0   2   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Harden        p        2   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Heilman       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Baker         ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Samardzija    p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Hoffpauir     ph       1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0

totals                36   3   9   3   3   7  16   0   0   0   0   2   2   0   1   0   0



St. Louis
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Carpenter        6.0   7   3   3   2   6   1   93
McClellan        1.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   18
Motte            1.0   1   0   0   0   1   0   12
Kinney           0.7   1   0   0   1   0   0   16
Franklin         0.3   0   0   0   0   0   0   2

totals           9.0   9   3   3   3   7   1  141


CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Harden           5.0   7   4   4   4   6   1  101
Heilman          1.0   2   4   4   3   0   0   34
Samardzija       2.0   1   0   0   2   1   0   32
Stevens          1.0   0   0   0   0   0   0   12

totals           9.0  10   8   8   9   7   1  179

W:Carpenter (7-3)
S:none
L:Harden (5-6)

T:2:57
A:40,687

Home runs:
St. Louis: Pujols (32)
CUBS: D Lee (17)

[Sammy Sofa]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

 

You're so goofy. I love your schtick. Never change, homeslice.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Isn't Ramirez 29?

 

He's 31.

[Arnold Layne]

Now this is funny:

 

Cardinals combined outfield is $7 mill compared to Cubs $40 mill and they have around 35 more RBI.

[illiniguy]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

He still only has to build a better team than the other 6 in our division. He usually has done just that.

[Arnold Layne]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

 

You're so goofy. I love your schtick. Never change, homeslice.

 

You always do this when you lose the argument.

[illiniguy]

Isn't Ramirez 29?

 

He's 31.

Damn, but still that isn't really at the age where you would expect a huge drop off.

[Sammy Sofa]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

But there was a lot of concern that this team had some serious downside on offense, with all of our best hitters except for Soto being past their primes, and Soto being a catcher, which is always unpredictable.

 

Agreed, but again, anyone who claims they were predicting THIS is a liar. Baseball is baseball: there are no guarentees that players and teams are just going to walk over the season and you saw plenty of people here saying that 2009 was not a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination, but there's a huge gulf between that and how flat-out bad this team is playing. That you have this many players not playing anywhere near career or projected levels plus the injuries is basically a perfect storm of suck.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Sammy Sofa

[Arnold Layne]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

He still only has to build a better team than the other 6 in our division. He usually has done just that.

 

 

So the benchmark is occasionally squeaking by a terrible division? I'd check Hendry's winning percentage if I were you......

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Isn't Ramirez 29?

 

He's 31.

Damn, but still that isn't really at the age where you would expect a huge drop off.

 

Anytime a ballplayer is in his 30s, there's a chance for a big dropoff. Maybe a small chance, but it happens.

 

Of course, Ramirez was doing pretty well until he got hurt. But he's always had some injury issues.

Edited July 10, 2009 by Hairyducked Idiot

[Sammy Sofa]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

 

You're so goofy. I love your schtick. Never change, homeslice.

 

You always do this when you lose the argument.

 

Guess so. Keep at it, big guy!

[UMFan83]

We also get to be embarrased nationally on Sunday Night Baseball this weekend.

eh, we weren't gonna win the carp game no matter what. We could be ok the rest of the series.

 

yeah this game was their best starter vs. Our worst. I still personally think we will win 1-2 of the remaining 3 games which isn't that bad considering how well the Cardinals have been playing coming in.

[illiniguy]

An "across MLB" comparison is a bit disingenuous, seeing as how 14 of the teams play with a DH. Though an NL-only comparison would make roughly the same point: Hendry has put together a lot of mediocre offenses.

 

Definitely. I just think the idea that this team is playing as everyone should have expected going into the year is funny as hell.

 

 

It's only funny to you because you see the outlier 2008 season as the standard, which is a very warped perception of the baseball teams Jim Hendry builds.

He still only has to build a better team than the other 6 in our division. He usually has done just that.

 

 

So the benchmark is occasionally squeaking by a terrible division? I'd check Hendry's winning percentage if I were you......

Since 03 we have won 3 division titles. So that's what 3 in 6 years. I don't remember our history, but has anyone else this century been able to claim this? Oh and how many other GMs have built a team that won a playoff series for us?

[Sammy Sofa]

Since 03 we have won 3 division titles. So that's what 3 in 6 years. I don't remember our history, but has anyone else this century been able to claim this? Oh and how many other GMs have built a team that won a playoff series for us?

 

I feel bad for Arnold about how his heart will break when the next GM after Hendry is worse.

[illiniguy]

Isn't Ramirez 29?

 

He's 31.

Damn, but still that isn't really at the age where you would expect a huge drop off.

 

Anytime a ballplayer is in his 30s, there's a chance for a big dropoff. Maybe a small chance, but it happens.

 

Of course, Ramirez was doing pretty well until he got hurt. But he's always had some injury issues.

Yeah, I really don't worry about him though. He's still a good hitter. Soriano though..