7/10/09 Cardinals(Carpenter) @ Cubs (Harden) 1:20 PM WGN

[rynefan]

Carps gone, but who cares. Cubs aint scoring 5 against anyone, and whose to say they're done scoring. Maybe the Cards are just the better team. At least the Cubs get to keep their mystique, and cant nobody take that away. If you want championships, go become a Red Sox fan.

 

A healthy Cub team playing to near their abilities blows this Cardinal team away.

 

 

:lol:

 

Wait, wait, wait...what's hilarious about what he said? You honestly think this team healthy and the players performing even just close to expected levels would not be a good team?

We should be running away with the division, but we are the Cubs. So instead we have everyone crap their bed or get hurt in the same year. It is what it is.

 

Personally, I think I have a lot lower tolerance level for it because of how the last two years ended up, specifically the post season.

[gflore34]

Another Carpenter strike there, not called

[Sammy Sofa]

Are we assuming Soriano isn't healthy?

 

I know I am. At the very least the knee issues are not helping him get of the slump.

[PrimeTime]

Well great job, Lou...You bring in Shark now when we have no chance instead of before when it was close and you bring in Heilman

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING

 

Ludwick walked

Ankiel popped out to shallow left field

Molina grounded into a DP, 4-6-3, Ludwick out at second

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
St. Louis       1 0 2 0 1 4 0 0                8 10  0
CUBS            0 0 3 0 0 0 0                  3  7  2

 

Home runs:

St. Louis: Pujols (32)

CUBS: D Lee (17)

 

St. Louis      IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Carpenter     6.0  7  3  3  2  6  1  93
McClellan     1.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  18

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Harden        5.0  7  4  4  4  6  1 101
Heilman       1.0  2  3  3  3  0  0  34
Samardzija    2.0  1  0  0  2  1  0  32

[illiniguy]

 

Personally, I think I have a lot lower tolerance level for it because of how the last two years ended up, specifically the post season.

I'm of the belief its a crapshoot. Keep getting there and eventually you'll break through.

[RedFlash]

I would like thank the Cubs for reminding me that I have a dental appointment on Monday.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wait, wait, wait...what's hilarious about what he said? You honestly think this team healthy and the players performing even just close to expected levels would not be a good team?

 

Expected levels at the beginning of the season? Yes.

 

But with what we know now (Harden is probably completely and possibly permanently broken, Soriano may be aging faster than we hoped), I'd say it's close.

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Leading off        58   10   19    2    0    2    2    8   12  0.328  0.409  0.466  0.875  0.386  4.23  0.082  0.000
bases empty       138   22   39    4    0    9   10   11   26  0.283  0.340  0.507  0.847  0.291  3.95  0.057  0.333
Late (7th on)      83   10   22    1    0    5    9    8   19  0.265  0.326  0.458  0.784  0.288  3.66  0.061  0.098
0 outs             96   13   30    7    0    3   12   10   17  0.313  0.374  0.479  0.853  0.355  3.90  0.061  0.220
CUBS trailing     111   15   40    4    0    7   17    4   22  0.360  0.390  0.586  0.975  0.402  3.79  0.029  0.192
last 15 games      56    7   13    1    0    5   16    5   14  0.232  0.302  0.518  0.819  0.216  3.59  0.069  0.355
July               32    6    8    1    0    5   14    0    8  0.250  0.273  0.750  1.023  0.158  3.61  0.023  0.450
Home              146   25   44    8    0   12   36   12   32  0.301  0.360  0.603  0.963  0.314  3.98  0.059  0.273
Day               144   23   41    7    0   10   33   12   32  0.285  0.340  0.542  0.881  0.304  3.89  0.055  0.256
vs Right          224   33   63   11    0   15   47   20   49  0.281  0.340  0.531  0.871  0.300  3.89  0.059  0.252
vs McClellan        3    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    2  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  4.33  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          34    3    9    2    0    0    4    0    7  0.265  0.257  0.324  0.581  0.333  3.94 -0.008  0.211
Lance Barksdale     8    1    3    0    0    0    1    0    1  0.375  0.375  0.375  0.750  0.429  3.25  0.000  0.200

season totals     272   37   76   13    0   16   53   31   57  0.279  0.354  0.504  0.858  0.302  3.92  0.074  0.236

[UMFan83]

He Cardinals just look like the better team today. If you think about it, Pujols is at about the level Bonds was in the early 2000s, but he likely has a better supporting cast than Bonds competing teams had back then. Ok not as good but comperable. It finally makes sense to me that the Cardinals are decent unlike the last couple years. not to sound too much like Lou but what else can I say? We are a talented team that so far has run into a bunch of unfortunate injuries and unlucky down years from key contributors. Fortunately unless we somehow get swept we are still in a decent position to be in the division race going into the second half. That's all you can ask for allthings considered. We know the team is likely talented enough based on the recent past to make a run, so it's up to the players to play like it, the coaches to act like it and the general management to hopefully address any deficiencies.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Motte in to pitch for St. Louis

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee flied out to center field

[illiniguy]

He Cardinals just look like the better team today. If you think about it, Pujols is at about the level Bonds was in the early 2000s, but he likely has a better supporting cast than Bonds competing teams had back then. Ok not as good but comperable. It finally makes sense to me that the Cardinals are decent unlike the last couple years. not to sound too much like Lou but what else can I say? We are a talented team that so far has run into a bunch of unfortunate injuries and unlucky down years from key contributors. Fortunately unless we somehow get swept we are still in a decent position to be in the division race going into the second half. That's all you can ask for allthings considered. We know the team is likely talented enough based on the recent past to make a run, so it's up to the players to play like it, the coaches to act like it and the general management to hopefully address any deficiencies.

I'd rather Jim not make any trades. He has no clue what he's doing and would hate to see him give away Vitters for a rental.

[salukifudd]

Len and Moreland said more runs would be scored for sure during the 5th ining, my first thought was, yeah 7-3 Cards, atleast I was close.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ramirez            AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Leading off        20    1    6    1    0    1    1    2    2  0.300  0.364  0.500  0.864  0.294  3.73  0.064  0.000
bases empty        43    4   14    1    0    3    3    2    5  0.326  0.356  0.558  0.914  0.314  3.76  0.030  0.000
Late (7th on)      26    4    9    0    0    3    6    0    4  0.346  0.346  0.692  1.038  0.316  3.46  0.000  0.231
1 out              21    2    7    0    0    1    3    0    5  0.333  0.364  0.476  0.840  0.400  3.41  0.030  0.200
CUBS trailing      23    2    9    1    0    1    3    1    2  0.391  0.440  0.565  1.005  0.400  3.84  0.049  0.286
last 15 games      12    0    3    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.250  0.250  0.250  0.500  0.273  2.67  0.000  0.000
July               12    0    3    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.250  0.250  0.250  0.500  0.273  2.67  0.000  0.000
Home               41    4   14    1    0    1    8    2    5  0.341  0.386  0.439  0.825  0.371  3.52  0.045  0.292
Day                25    2    8    1    0    1    5    2    2  0.320  0.370  0.480  0.850  0.318  3.52  0.050  0.333
vs Right           64    6   20    2    0    3   11    3    7  0.313  0.353  0.484  0.837  0.315  4.07  0.040  0.258
vs Motte            0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          15    2    7    2    0    1    5    1    3  0.467  0.500  0.800  1.300  0.545  3.69  0.033  0.571
Lance Barksdale     3    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.333  0.500  0.333  0.833  0.333  4.25  0.167  0.000

season totals      78    9   27    3    0    4   16    5    9  0.346  0.393  0.538  0.931  0.354  3.98  0.047  0.273

[Fred Hornkohl]

A Ramirez lined out to second base

[illiniguy]

Big hit Sori.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Soriano doubled to down the left field line

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I wanted him to be thrown out at second so bad.

[Sammy Sofa]

Wait, wait, wait...what's hilarious about what he said? You honestly think this team healthy and the players performing even just close to expected levels would not be a good team?

 

Expected levels at the beginning of the season? Yes.

 

But with what we know now (Harden is probably completely and possibly permanently broken, Soriano may be aging faster than we hoped), I'd say it's close.

 

Of course it's based on the expected levels going into the season.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fontenot           AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
RISP               55    2   10    2    0    1   20    9   16  0.182  0.294  0.273  0.567  0.237  3.90  0.112  0.209
Late (7th on)      80    5   16    3    0    1    5    9   19  0.200  0.278  0.275  0.553  0.250  4.51  0.078  0.121
2 outs             83    3   18    2    0    1    7   11   18  0.217  0.316  0.277  0.593  0.266  4.15  0.099  0.107
CUBS trailing      88    5   16    4    0    1    5   12   20  0.182  0.280  0.261  0.541  0.224  4.40  0.098  0.098
last 15 games      40    5    9    2    0    0    2    1   11  0.225  0.244  0.275  0.519  0.310  3.98  0.019  0.091
July               24    3    8    2    0    0    1    1    5  0.333  0.360  0.417  0.777  0.421  4.28  0.027  0.077
Home              109   10   23    4    1    2   10   14   25  0.211  0.304  0.321  0.625  0.256  4.38  0.093  0.114
Day               116    8   27    4    1    1   10   14   27  0.233  0.313  0.310  0.623  0.295  4.24  0.080  0.138
vs Right          198   20   47    9    0    6   23   25   45  0.237  0.324  0.374  0.698  0.279  4.30  0.087  0.170
vs Motte            0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.00  0.000  0.000
vs. St. L          31    2    6    2    0    0    2    1    7  0.194  0.219  0.258  0.477  0.250  4.03  0.025  0.105
Lance Barksdale     1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  3.00  0.000  0.000

season totals     238   22   55   11    1    6   28   27   55  0.231  0.309  0.361  0.670  0.277  4.18  0.077  0.173

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 36-14 when they get at least 8 hits .... 5-27 when they don't

CUBS are 38-29 when they hit at least one double.... 3-12 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Sammy Sofa]

Fontenot is terrible.

[illiniguy]

You're awesome Fontenot.

[PrimeTime]

I wanted him to be thrown out at second so bad.

 

I still dont get how he lesuirely just walks and trots whether its going to a base or a ball in the outfield..He has no sense or urgency and thinks he has all the time in the world and nothing will happen like getting thrown out or someone taking an extra base on him and it happens alot and he still does it. It pisses me off