Hendry's regime

[ChiCubsfan0502]

While I suppose he should get some credit for 3 division crowns in 6 years, he basically has bought those titles by having the biggest bank account. He also has made trades with teams that simply could not afford to keep their high profile players.

 

We are stuck with guys like Soriano, Bradley and Fukudome as our outfield ( 40 mil a year for these guys) because of what you're about to see below.

 

I think a GM should be judged on how he drafts and what the current state of his farm system is. Is there a team in all of Baseball that has a worse time producing position players and who's draft picks have made zero to little impact then the Cubs under Hendry's watch? I challenge anyone to find me a team that rivals this ineptitude. The farm system is a joke and ranks as one of the worst currently in Baseball. Lets look at the draft under Hendry and some of his "impact picks".

 

2003: Ryan Harvey. Bust!

 

2004: Grant Johnson: Bust!

 

2005: Mark Pawelek. Bust!

 

2006: Tyler Colvin. Bust! TJ surgery and still sitting in A ball.

 

2007: Josh Vitters. Still too early to tell but he might be the only one in this group who pans out to being a very, very good player.

 

2008: Andrew Cashner. Too early to tell.

 

2009: Brett Jackson. Too early to tell.

 

Now, what's more frightening about this list is that it obviously doesn't show all of the picks under Hendry. Having said that, only Sean Marshall has made an even moderate impact at the big league level under Hendry's watch. That's right, Sean Marshall. How pathetic is that?

 

So, we have a GM who can only throw the most money at free agent players and gives them ridiculous money contracts, trades with teams that can't afford their best players (See Pirates/A-Ram, Marlins/Lee) and signs stiffs such as Miles and Heilman to cement his worst off season to date.

 

So, how much credit does he REALLY deserve? I say not much.

 

Resign, Jim Hendry.

Edited June 29, 2009 by ChiCubsfan0502

[JeffH]

Hendry is an extremely hard worker and seems like a decent enough guy.

 

However, the fact is that he's proven beyond all reasonable doubt that he can't get the job done.

 

It's time for someone else.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I wouldnt chalk up Colvin as a bust just yet. Hes in AA because of TJS, not A and hes off to a good start there.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

I wouldnt chalk up Colvin as a bust just yet. Hes in AA because of TJS, not A and hes off to a good start there.

 

Ok, fair enough. However, do you REALLY think he'll ever make the big club? And how about the rest of his sad drafts?

[TruffleShuffle]

(a) you're judging only first round picks. the cardinals' first two picks in 1999 were chance caple and nick stocks. i guess we could call that draft a bust, except that they got albert pujols in the 13th round.

(b) hendry doesn't have much to do with drafting any more. the drafting falls mostly on tim wilken and the scouts.

© if you are going to give an assessment of hendry, then give him credit for good signings and trades as well as the poor ones. if you bitch about signing miles and don't give him credit for the derosa signing, it's clear that you're taking an excessively-negative stance on him and are being unreasonable.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

(a) you're judging only first round picks. the cardinals' first two picks in 1999 were chance caple and nick stocks. i guess we could call that draft a bust, except that they got albert pujols in the 13th round.

(b) hendry doesn't have much to do with drafting any more. the drafting falls mostly on tim wilken and the scouts.

© if you are going to give an assessment of hendry, then give him credit for good signings and trades as well as the poor ones. if you bitch about signing miles and don't give him credit for the derosa signing, it's clear that you're taking an excessively-negative stance on him and are being unreasonable.

 

Give credit for him signing Derosa? Well, perhaps if he were:

 

A: Still a Cub

B: Wasn't traded for marginal prospects

C: Not playing for the Cardinals

 

DeRosa is not a good example.

[JimSorgi]

(a) you're judging only first round picks. the cardinals' first two picks in 1999 were chance caple and nick stocks. i guess we could call that draft a bust, except that they got albert pujols in the 13th round.

(b) hendry doesn't have much to do with drafting any more. the drafting falls mostly on tim wilken and the scouts.

© if you are going to give an assessment of hendry, then give him credit for good signings and trades as well as the poor ones. if you bitch about signing miles and don't give him credit for the derosa signing, it's clear that you're taking an excessively-negative stance on him and are being unreasonable.

 

Give credit for him signing Derosa? Well, perhaps if he were:

 

A: Still a Cub

B: Wasn't traded for marginal prospects

C: Not playing for the Cardinals

 

DeRosa is not a good example.

 

so the two years he was here never happened?

[ChiCubsfan0502]

(a) you're judging only first round picks. the cardinals' first two picks in 1999 were chance caple and nick stocks. i guess we could call that draft a bust, except that they got albert pujols in the 13th round.

(b) hendry doesn't have much to do with drafting any more. the drafting falls mostly on tim wilken and the scouts.

© if you are going to give an assessment of hendry, then give him credit for good signings and trades as well as the poor ones. if you bitch about signing miles and don't give him credit for the derosa signing, it's clear that you're taking an excessively-negative stance on him and are being unreasonable.

 

Give credit for him signing Derosa? Well, perhaps if he were:

 

A: Still a Cub

B: Wasn't traded for marginal prospects

C: Not playing for the Cardinals

 

DeRosa is not a good example.

 

so the two years he was here never happened?

 

I'm saying that he basically negated all of that by what he did with DeRosa in the off season. And once again, how about those splendid drafts? That's the main problem with Hendry.

 

Repeat after me: Sean Marshall. That's what 6 years worth of drafting has produced.

[fasttrack21]

While I suppose he should get some credit for 3 division crowns in 6 years

This alone tells me that there's heavy bias in your post, and thus makes it not even worth reading.

 

You're basically saying that the architect behind the Cubs' best period of success in who knows how long should kinda sorta get some credit, but just a little. That's crazy. Yes, he's had money to spend. But high payrolls don't always equal success. Look around the league for numerous examples of that. Jim has his flaws, no GM in professional sports doesn't. But he's heavily responsible for the Cubs' success the last several years. And, of course, for the failures as well.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

While I suppose he should get some credit for 3 division crowns in 6 years

This alone tells me that there's heavy bias in your post, and thus makes it not even worth reading.

 

You're basically saying that the architect behind the Cubs' best period of success in who knows how long should kinda sorta get some credit, but just a little. That's crazy. Yes, he's had money to spend. But high payrolls don't always equal success. Look around the league for numerous examples of that. Jim has his flaws, no GM in professional sports doesn't. But he's heavily responsible for the Cubs' success the last several years. And, of course, for the failures as well.

 

Heavy bias? The state of the farm and the Cubs pathetic drafting under his watch is not bias, just pure facts. If you think otherwise, there's heavy bias in your post in favor of him.

[ELCABALLO45]

(a) you're judging only first round picks. the cardinals' first two picks in 1999 were chance caple and nick stocks. i guess we could call that draft a bust, except that they got albert pujols in the 13th round.

(b) hendry doesn't have much to do with drafting any more. the drafting falls mostly on tim wilken and the scouts.

© if you are going to give an assessment of hendry, then give him credit for good signings and trades as well as the poor ones. if you bitch about signing miles and don't give him credit for the derosa signing, it's clear that you're taking an excessively-negative stance on him and are being unreasonable.

 

Give credit for him signing Derosa? Well, perhaps if he were:

 

A: Still a Cub

B: Wasn't traded for marginal prospects

C: Not playing for the Cardinals

 

DeRosa is not a good example.

 

When DeRosa was signed he was considered a risk considering he really never played everyday for a full year.

 

DeRosa went on to have a pretty decent season and then a career year for the Cubs and played a big role in both divison titles. They sold high on a 34 year old Middle Infielder, something you rarley can do.

 

DeRosa OPS'd .857 last year. There was no way he was going to do that again. DeRosa also got helped out by leading the league in "lucky" home runs last year with 8.

 

Look DeRosa is a good player, however he is not a superstar. He is below avg. defensivly basically everywhere you up put him.

 

The biggest reason why the Cubs are struggling this year IMO is your bullpen and the loss of A-Ram. To blame this all on Hendry just seems like a scape goat. The fact is they have a bunch of players underachiving... Soriano, Bradley, Marmol, Harden, Gregg and Soto just to name a few. And then take out the Cubs best player (Aramis) and you end up being 2 games under .500. But lucky for the Cubs (and brewers) its the NL Central. You still have a really good starting rotation. And for how bad and under achving the cubs have been they are still only 3.5 games back.

Edited June 29, 2009 by ELCABALLO45

[Sammy Sofa]

And once again, how about those splendid drafts? That's the main problem with Hendry.

 

Repeat after me: Sean Marshall. That's what 6 years worth of drafting has produced.

 

Once again, Hendry has had little to do with the drafting since he's become the GM.

 

And he didn't get just "marginal prospects" for DeRosa. The trade of DeRosa in and of itself was fine given his age and coming off a career year. The mistake was not coming even remotely close to finding someone even just serviceable to do anything DeRosa could do on the field while also signing a player basically tailor-made to maximize DeRosa's supersub abilities.

Edited June 29, 2009 by Sammy Sofa

[ChiCubsfan0502]

They sold high on DeRosa? LOL!! Edited June 29, 2009 by ChiCubsfan0502

[KingCubsFan]

The funny part is that Hendry's best attribute is arguably his ability to draft/run a farm system. If he was removed as GM, I'd let him replace Tim Wilken in a heartbeat.

[17 Seconds]

And once again, how about those splendid drafts? That's the main problem with Hendry.

 

Repeat after me: Sean Marshall. That's what 6 years worth of drafting has produced.

 

Once again, Hendry has little to do with the drafting since he's become the GM.

 

And he didn't get just "marginal prospects" for DeRosa.

 

Then what would you call Gaub, Archer, and Stevens? They are the very definition of marginal prospects.

[RedFlash]

And once again, how about those splendid drafts? That's the main problem with Hendry.

 

Repeat after me: Sean Marshall. That's what 6 years worth of drafting has produced.

 

Once again, Hendry has little to do with the drafting since he's become the GM.

 

And he didn't get just "marginal prospects" for DeRosa. The trade of DeRosa in and of itself was fine. The mistake was not coming even remotely close to finding someone just serviceable to replace what DeRosa could do while also signing a player basically tailor-made to maximize DeRosa's supersub abilities.

 

Exactly. Trading Derosa wasn't the bad idea, replacing him on the roster with Aaron Miles that was the problem.

[Sammy Sofa]

And once again, how about those splendid drafts? That's the main problem with Hendry.

 

Repeat after me: Sean Marshall. That's what 6 years worth of drafting has produced.

 

Once again, Hendry has little to do with the drafting since he's become the GM.

 

And he didn't get just "marginal prospects" for DeRosa.

 

Then what would you call Gaub, Archer, and Stevens? They are the very definition of marginal prospects.

 

"Marginal prospects" basically means that they're never going to amount to anything. They're all decent to high ceiling guys who could either develop into something useful or be valuable parts of a trade.

[JeffH]

Why are we giving Hendry credit for an 85 victory division winner which got humiliated in the first round of the playoffs?

[Sammy Sofa]

The funny part is that Hendry's best attribute is arguably his ability to draft/run a farm system. If he was removed as GM, I'd let him replace Tim Wilken in a heartbeat.

 

Definitely.

[17 Seconds]

Why are we giving Hendry credit for an 85 victory division winner which got humiliated in the first round of the playoffs?

 

Because it's hard to find many good things he's done

[ChiCubsfan0502]

Can anyone tell me how only Sean Marshall has made an even moderate impact in the last 6 years of drafting. ANYONE? To say Hendry has little do with the draft is comical. He's our frggin GM! He is involved far more then you think.

[JimSorgi]

Can anyone tell me how only Sean Marshall has made an even moderate impact in the last 6 years of drafting. ANYONE? To say Hendry has little do with the draft is comical. He's our frggin GM! He is involved far more then you think.

 

Can you explain to me why you mention Sean Marshall in every post? We get it, you don't have to keep saying it.

[Sammy Sofa]

To say Hendry has little do with the draft is comical. He's our frggin GM! He is involved far more then you think.

 

And you're basing this on...what?

 

If anything, the underwhelming draft picks since he became GM just lends creedence to the idea he's NOT involved in the drafting since that was actually one of his strengths and something he was highly regarded at.

[fasttrack21]

Why are we giving Hendry credit for an 85 victory division winner which got humiliated in the first round of the playoffs?

Because considering the playoffs are, for the most part, a crapshoot, a GM's goal is to build a roster that can win it's division and get to the postseason.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

Can anyone tell me how only Sean Marshall has made an even moderate impact in the last 6 years of drafting. ANYONE? To say Hendry has little do with the draft is comical. He's our frggin GM! He is involved far more then you think.

 

Can you explain to me why you mention Sean Marshall in every post? We get it, you don't have to keep saying it.

 

You didn't answer the question.