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The Cubs only have 3 guys in the top 100 in OPS in baseball:

 

Fukudome: .952 (25th)

Theriot: .814 (80 something) :shock: :shock:

Soriano: .790 (99th)

 

What a joke. Soto, Lee, and Bradley need to turn it around in a hurry or else we'll be looking up at numerous teams for a long time.

 

Note: Aramis would be in the top 20 with his 1.008 OPS

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32 teams x 3 players= 96 players.

 

Seems to me the average amount of players on each team with an OPS in the top 100 would be about 3.

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The Cubs only have 3 guys in the top 100 in OPS in baseball:

 

Fukudome: .952 (25th)

Theriot: .814 (80 something) :shock: :shock:

Soriano: .790 (99th)

 

What a joke. Soto, Lee, and Bradley need to turn it around in a hurry or else we'll be looking up at numerous teams for a long time.

 

Note: Aramis would be in the top 20 with his 1.008 OPS

 

Wouldn't you say they've got a good start on turning it around ??

 

05/25 - 05/31      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Bradley            20    6    8    1    1    1    5    4    2  0.400  0.500  0.700  1.200  0.412  3.63  0.100  0.400
Soto               16    1    5    0    0    0    2    5    3  0.313  0.476  0.313  0.789  0.385  3.95  0.164  0.154
D Lee              16    1    4    2    0    0    0    3    1  0.250  0.400  0.375  0.775  0.267  4.30  0.150  0.000

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The Cubs only have 3 guys in the top 100 in OPS in baseball:

 

Fukudome: .952 (25th)

Theriot: .814 (80 something) :shock: :shock:

Soriano: .790 (99th)

 

What a joke. Soto, Lee, and Bradley need to turn it around in a hurry or else we'll be looking up at numerous teams for a long time.

 

Note: Aramis would be in the top 20 with his 1.008 OPS

 

Wouldn't you say they've got a good start on turning it around ??

 

05/25 - 05/31      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Bradley            20    6    8    1    1    1    5    4    2  0.400  0.500  0.700  1.200  0.412  3.63  0.100  0.400
Soto               16    1    5    0    0    0    2    5    3  0.313  0.476  0.313  0.789  0.385  3.95  0.164  0.154
D Lee              16    1    4    2    0    0    0    3    1  0.250  0.400  0.375  0.775  0.267  4.30  0.150  0.000

 

No, but I would say one of them has.

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The Cubs only have 3 guys in the top 100 in OPS in baseball:

 

Fukudome: .952 (25th)

Theriot: .814 (80 something) :shock: :shock:

Soriano: .790 (99th)

 

What a joke. Soto, Lee, and Bradley need to turn it around in a hurry or else we'll be looking up at numerous teams for a long time.

 

Note: Aramis would be in the top 20 with his 1.008 OPS

 

Wouldn't you say they've got a good start on turning it around ??

 

05/25 - 05/31      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
Bradley            20    6    8    1    1    1    5    4    2  0.400  0.500  0.700  1.200  0.412  3.63  0.100  0.400
Soto               16    1    5    0    0    0    2    5    3  0.313  0.476  0.313  0.789  0.385  3.95  0.164  0.154
D Lee              16    1    4    2    0    0    0    3    1  0.250  0.400  0.375  0.775  0.267  4.30  0.150  0.000

 

No, but I would say one of them has.

 

Soto               AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
First 42 games    109    8   22    4    0    1   10   16   26  0.202  0.313  0.266  0.579  0.256  4.13  0.111  0.136
Last 7 games       16    1    5    0    0    0    2    5    3  0.313  0.476  0.313  0.789  0.385  3.95  0.164  0.154

 

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
First 42 games    125   15   31    6    0    5   19   13   27  0.248  0.314  0.416  0.730  0.280  3.91  0.066  0.197
Last 7 games       16    1    4    2    0    0    0    3    1  0.250  0.400  0.375  0.775  0.267  4.30  0.150  0.000

 

I stand by original assertion.......... they've got a good start on turning it around.

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

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I stand by original assertion.......... they've got a good start on turning it around.

 

A sub 800 OPS is not a good start toward turning around their totals. It may eventually level them out at substandard, but that's not turning things around. Lee has a 736 OPS, how would continuing at a rate of 775 turn that around?

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

 

Our quota for a .500 team, but the goal is to be well above .500, well above average, and hopefully at least one of the top 8 teams, which is going to be difficult.

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I stand by original assertion.......... they've got a good start on turning it around.

 

A sub 800 OPS is not a good start toward turning around their totals. It may eventually level them out at substandard, but that's not turning things around. Lee has a 736 OPS, how would continuing at a rate of 775 turn that around?

 

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
First 40 games    121   14   29    6    0    4   18   13   27  0.240  0.309  0.388  0.697  0.278  3.93  0.069  0.197
Last 9 games       20    2    6    2    0    1    1    3    1  0.300  0.417  0.550  0.967  0.278  4.17  0.117  0.000

 

Gooney, you can spin it any way you want, and frequently do. Progress is still progress.

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I stand by original assertion.......... they've got a good start on turning it around.

 

A sub 800 OPS is not a good start toward turning around their totals. It may eventually level them out at substandard, but that's not turning things around. Lee has a 736 OPS, how would continuing at a rate of 775 turn that around?

 

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
First 40 games    121   14   29    6    0    4   18   13   27  0.240  0.309  0.388  0.697  0.278  3.93  0.069  0.197
Last 9 games       20    2    6    2    0    1    1    3    1  0.300  0.417  0.550  0.967  0.278  4.17  0.117  0.000

 

Gooney, you can spin it any way you want, and frequently do. Progress is still progress.

 

 

treading water below median production is not progress.

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You know a team has problems when Ryan Theriot has the second highest OPS. I assume Reed Johnson and his new .838 OPS doesn't count because he only has 78 ABs, but its worth noting that much like last year we are getting good production from CF, this year with Fukudome/Johnson. Problem is out of all the guys we count on to have an .850-.900 OPS (Lee, Soto, Bradley, Soriano, Ramirez), the only one OPSing above .790 is also on the DL :(
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I went ahead and calculated an adjusted line for these guys based on what you would expect if their BABIP actually lined up with their LD%.

 

Soto - .266/.378/.330

Bradley - .257/.371/.438

 

These guys are obviously both slumping, but they've been unlucky as well. Soto's LD% is right around where he's been for his career. Basically, he's just missing the HRs. Bradley's career LD% fluctuates all over the place, but he's on the low side of that number right now... you can probably expect him to improve.

 

The scary part is DLee. Given his LD%, he's actually been a bit lucky to this point in the season. Though that's offset by an absurd low in his LD%... take a look.

 

2004 - 18.7%

2005 - 22.0%

2006 - 20.3%

2007 - 20.6%

2008 - 21.5%

2009 - 13.9%

 

Something is mechanically buggered with his swing right now. There's no other explanation I can fathom.

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I stand by original assertion.......... they've got a good start on turning it around.

 

A sub 800 OPS is not a good start toward turning around their totals. It may eventually level them out at substandard, but that's not turning things around. Lee has a 736 OPS, how would continuing at a rate of 775 turn that around?

 

D Lee              AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
First 40 games    121   14   29    6    0    4   18   13   27  0.240  0.309  0.388  0.697  0.278  3.93  0.069  0.197
Last 9 games       20    2    6    2    0    1    1    3    1  0.300  0.417  0.550  0.967  0.278  4.17  0.117  0.000

 

Gooney, you can spin it any way you want, and frequently do. Progress is still progress.

 

 

treading water below median production is not progress.

 

Arnold, you've got to make allowances for me, I'm just a dumb truck driver, and about half senile at that. Why don't you explain for the boys and girls in the audience just what "median performance" is and then tell us who is treading water below that ??

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

 

Our quota for a .500 team, but the goal is to be well above .500, well above average, and hopefully at least one of the top 8 teams, which is going to be difficult.

 

Exactly. If we want to be exactly league average, we are doing great. Also, "turning it around" for 1 week or even 2 is really relative. Bradley would have to OPS 1.200 for, what, a month to get into the top 100?

 

The part I'm most worried about is that our starters, for the most part, have been pretty solid. If they start stinking, even if the hitting gets better, we might be looking at hovering around .500 for a while.

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

 

Our quota for a .500 team, but the goal is to be well above .500, well above average, and hopefully at least one of the top 8 teams, which is going to be difficult.

 

Exactly. If we want to be exactly league average, we are doing great. Also, "turning it around" for 1 week or even 2 is really relative. Bradley would have to OPS 1.200 for, what, a month to get into the top 100?

 

The part I'm most worried about is that our starters, for the most part, have been pretty solid. If they start stinking, even if the hitting gets better, we might be looking at hovering around .500 for a while.

 

If Bradley had a 1.200 OPS for a month (assuming 100 plate appearances which is actually slightly low if he played the entire month) he'd have a .936 OPS overall at the end of that month.

 

To break into that top 100, he'd have to have an .856 OPS for that full month.

 

I know you were exaggerating for effect, but it just illustrates how few at-bats most of our regulars have had. They still have time to make up their bad starts..even though it's June, their number of at-bats aren't at those June levels where your numbers really start to stabilize.

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I'm just a dumb truck driver, and about half senile at that.

 

You underestimate yourself and then immediately overestimate yourself in the same sentence. Impressive.

 

:D

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

 

Our quota for a .500 team, but the goal is to be well above .500, well above average, and hopefully at least one of the top 8 teams, which is going to be difficult.

 

Exactly. If we want to be exactly league average, we are doing great. Also, "turning it around" for 1 week or even 2 is really relative. Bradley would have to OPS 1.200 for, what, a month to get into the top 100?

 

The part I'm most worried about is that our starters, for the most part, have been pretty solid. If they start stinking, even if the hitting gets better, we might be looking at hovering around .500 for a while.

 

If Bradley had a 1.200 OPS for a month (assuming 100 plate appearances which is actually slightly low if he played the entire month) he'd have a .936 OPS overall at the end of that month.

 

To break into that top 100, he'd have to have an .856 OPS for that full month.

 

I know you were exaggerating for effect, but it just illustrates how few at-bats most of our regulars have had. They still have time to make up their bad starts..even though it's June, their number of at-bats aren't at those June levels where your numbers really start to stabilize.

 

Even if he needed a 1.200 OPS for a month to get into the top 100, that's not the only way. Bradley, Soto and Lee have all shown they can put up an .850+ OPS for long periods of time. Of course, Lee hasn't shown so in a long time. I wouldn't expect Soto to do so. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Bradley continue to turn it around an be in the .850-.900 OPS range when all is said and done.

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There are 30 teams.

 

That's not the first time I've made that stupid mistake. I know there are two more teams in the NL, and when I think about it as 2 more in the one league, I end up with 32 instead of 30.

 

Anyway, that's still 3.333333 players per team, and if we add Aramis as the .333333 guy, we have our quota.

 

Our quota for a .500 team, but the goal is to be well above .500, well above average, and hopefully at least one of the top 8 teams, which is going to be difficult.

 

I'm not disagreeing with anyone here. We are supposed to have Soriano, Ramirez and Bradley as locks to reach that level of production, along with Fukudome, Soto, Lee and quite possibly Fontenot also creaping up towards those numbers.

 

I wouldn't have ever thought that Theriot had even an outside chance to give the Cubs that kind of production.

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I'm just a dumb truck driver, and about half senile at that.

 

You underestimate yourself and then immediately overestimate yourself in the same sentence. Impressive.

 

:D

 

Imagine what I could have done if I'd gone to law school ??? :wink:

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I'm just a dumb truck driver, and about half senile at that.

 

You underestimate yourself and then immediately overestimate yourself in the same sentence. Impressive.

 

:D

 

Imagine what I could have done if I'd gone to law school ??? :wink:

 

likely become an egotistical jackass.

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