2010 NFL Draft

[dew1679666265]

Put Clausen on OU's team in '07 and Bradford on ND's team in '07 and see who has the better numbers. Clausen was starting with a ton of freshman behind a crap OL. Tate in '07 isn't anything like Tate is in '09. Bradford might be the better overall NFL QB, I don't think so, but he might be. If a team makes that pick based on Clausen's #s in '07 (or even '08), they're idiots.

 

I completely agree that the difference in production should be looked at more in depth - and I think most, if not all, teams will - but they're likely to play a factor, just like Bradford's injury this season will even if it is fully healed by the combine.

 

Production shouldn't be the most important factor, but it will be a factor.

[Guest]

Bradford doesn't have Stafford's arm, but everyone knew that last year and they still liked him, because he's smart and he's incredibly accurate. Not to knock McCoy, but just as a comparison, Bradford actually throws the ball downfield, though last year he did rely on bubble screens a lot.

 

I actually would liken Bradford to Sanchez. Both are cerebral QBs who don't have great arms but came up in elite BCS programs.

 

I think Clausen is a super pro-prospect, I think Mallett could be Joe Flacco and I think Jake Locker might be.... a more athletic Roethlisberger? I'm struggling with a comparison.

 

Mallett likely wouldn't have the quick success Flacco did, but those seem like good comparisons. How about Romo as a comp for Locker? Or a better version of Romo? Or maybe McNabb?

 

Jake Locker is like Randall Cunningham without quite the same amount of escapability. He's probably faster in a straight line than Cunningham was. Both have huge arms.

 

There you go, I like that.

[imb]

you can't compare a white guy and a black guy, dummy.

 

jake locker is like ryan leaf, if you replace the fact that leaf is out of the league because he's dumb with the fact that locker will be out of the league because he's mobile and he'll get injured in the NFL

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Put Clausen on OU's team in '07 and Bradford on ND's team in '07 and see who has the better numbers. Clausen was starting with a ton of freshman behind a crap OL. Tate in '07 isn't anything like Tate is in '09. Bradford might be the better overall NFL QB, I don't think so, but he might be. If a team makes that pick based on Clausen's #s in '07 (or even '08), they're idiots.

 

I completely agree that the difference in production should be looked at more in depth - and I think most, if not all, teams will - but they're likely to play a factor, just like Bradford's injury this season will even if it is fully healed by the combine.

 

Production shouldn't be the most important factor, but it will be a factor.

 

Sure it'll be a factor and it's probably the single biggest reason Clausen could return in '10. But I doubt it, since he's likely to be one of the first 2 QBs taken and a top 5 pick.

 

But I have trouble with the idea that production as a freshman on a crap team has the same importance as 2 injuries, one requiring significant surgery, to the throwing shoulder of a QB. Seems that has a much bigger impact on draft status, or should, imo.

[dew1679666265]

Put Clausen on OU's team in '07 and Bradford on ND's team in '07 and see who has the better numbers. Clausen was starting with a ton of freshman behind a crap OL. Tate in '07 isn't anything like Tate is in '09. Bradford might be the better overall NFL QB, I don't think so, but he might be. If a team makes that pick based on Clausen's #s in '07 (or even '08), they're idiots.

 

I completely agree that the difference in production should be looked at more in depth - and I think most, if not all, teams will - but they're likely to play a factor, just like Bradford's injury this season will even if it is fully healed by the combine.

 

Production shouldn't be the most important factor, but it will be a factor.

 

Sure it'll be a factor and it's probably the single biggest reason Clausen could return in '10. But I doubt it, since he's likely to be one of the first 2 QBs taken and a top 5 pick.

 

But I have trouble with the idea that production as a freshman on a crap team has the same importance as 2 injuries, one requiring significant surgery, to the throwing shoulder of a QB. Seems that has a much bigger impact on draft status, or should, imo.

 

It's not really 2 injuries, it's a reinjury of one. I think it will be a bigger factor if the injury is not deemed fully recovered by the combine. If there are any thoughts that it it not healed up, then Bradford may drop quite a bit.

[shnsajax]

Put Clausen on OU's team in '07 and Bradford on ND's team in '07 and see who has the better numbers. Clausen was starting with a ton of freshman behind a crap OL. Tate in '07 isn't anything like Tate is in '09. Bradford might be the better overall NFL QB, I don't think so, but he might be. If a team makes that pick based on Clausen's #s in '07 (or even '08), they're idiots.

 

I completely agree that the difference in production should be looked at more in depth - and I think most, if not all, teams will - but they're likely to play a factor, just like Bradford's injury this season will even if it is fully healed by the combine.

 

Production shouldn't be the most important factor, but it will be a factor.

 

Sure it'll be a factor and it's probably the single biggest reason Clausen could return in '10. But I doubt it, since he's likely to be one of the first 2 QBs taken and a top 5 pick.

 

But I have trouble with the idea that production as a freshman on a crap team has the same importance as 2 injuries, one requiring significant surgery, to the throwing shoulder of a QB. Seems that has a much bigger impact on draft status, or should, imo.

 

It might just be me, but Clausen comes across as a spoiled rich white douche. It doesn't have a whole lot of relavance towards anything, maybe potential work ethic. I just don't like the guy. With that said he does have a great arm, and looks like he can make all the throws. He just needs to be able to run a NFL offense and read a much faster defense.

[imb]

i hate clausen, but im not going to hate on him, per se

 

he's arrogant, so i hate him. but philip rivers is arrogant and i love him.

 

the problem normal people like myself have with him is that he plays at notre dame, he's white, has a stupid haircut and is ugly. im not sure which of those is the biggest factor, but when everyone is seemingly in love with ugly, white jake locker, it makes you think that the notre dame thing plays a big part in it.

 

but really, white people are just ugly and outside of some baseball players, most of them look completely ridiculous in athletic clothing. It's the reeason dirk nowitzki doesn't get the love that he should, because he looks like a moron in shorts and a tank top. lebron looks like a sleek, muscular race horse and nowitzki looks like you're father in law taking 30-foot 3-pointers.

 

I'm rambling here, but the point is that white people should not be allowed to play sports in a public setting, because they look ridiculous.

[Mark Priors Calves]

/end of thread

[Andy]

Jimmy was overwhelmingly voted a captain as a junior, which rarely happens at ND, and has evolved into the team leader. Like any talented rich kid from California, he probably came in a bit too big for his britches (I sound 80 when I type that), but one can't argue with what he's done this year. A rich white douche wouldn't keep playing on a painful turf toe and moreover, lead three late 4th quarter must-score drives for TDs on it (and almost lead a fourth). He could easily point out that he's playing with the 107th-ranked defense in the country and that with any competent 11 defensive players out there he's probably the Heisman-favorite QB of a 6-0 team that's on the outskirts of the top 5. And that's probably what a rich white douche would do.

 

I have a horrible bias here, though, because I thought Jimmy was getting a raw deal from the media (and to a lesser extent our own fans) when he first got here and I've been a big fan of his right from the start.

[Guest]

If there's one thing everyone can agree on about the 2010 draft, it's that the Raiders will do something amazingly stupid.

who is the fastest guy in the draft?

 

Noel Devine could be a top 5 pick after all.

 

Tebow and Devine in the first two rounds, combine them with McFadden and the Raiders are all set to run the ball 150 times per game in 2010.

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i hate clausen, but im not going to hate on him, per se

 

he's arrogant, so i hate him. but philip rivers is arrogant and i love him.

 

the problem normal people like myself have with him is that he plays at notre dame, he's white, has a stupid haircut and is ugly. im not sure which of those is the biggest factor, but when everyone is seemingly in love with ugly, white jake locker, it makes you think that the notre dame thing plays a big part in it.

 

but really, white people are just ugly and outside of some baseball players, most of them look completely ridiculous in athletic clothing. It's the reeason dirk nowitzki doesn't get the love that he should, because he looks like a moron in shorts and a tank top. lebron looks like a sleek, muscular race horse and nowitzki looks like you're father in law taking 30-foot 3-pointers.

 

I'm rambling here, but the point is that white people should not be allowed to play sports in a public setting, because they look ridiculous.

 

john stockton's camel toe thinks your post is ridiculous.

http://hardwoodhoudini.com/files/2009/08/john-stockton-300b0518.jpg

[cubweiser03]

If there's one thing everyone can agree on about the 2010 draft, it's that the Raiders will do something amazingly stupid.

who is the fastest guy in the draft?

 

Noel Devine could be a top 5 pick after all.

CJ Spiller? Guys fast as eff and runs like Chris Johnson.

Clausen has made some nice strinds but if he came out i dont see him cracking the top 10. He still needs work.

[Derwood]

This is the first year in a long time that Penn State doesn't have any clear cut Day One players. Perhaps if Evan Royster comes out early or if Sean Lee has a great combine....

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If there's one thing everyone can agree on about the 2010 draft, it's that the Raiders will do something amazingly stupid.

who is the fastest guy in the draft?

 

Noel Devine could be a top 5 pick after all.

CJ Spiller? Guys fast as eff and runs like Chris Johnson.

Clausen has made some nice strinds but if he came out i dont see him cracking the top 10. He still needs work.

 

on what?

[Guest]

Screw top 10, Clausen probably is a top 5 pick. QBs always go higher than they should and he's a legitimate top-10/top-15 talent.

[bukie]

If there's one thing everyone can agree on about the 2010 draft, it's that the Raiders will do something amazingly stupid.

who is the fastest guy in the draft?

 

Noel Devine could be a top 5 pick after all.

CJ Spiller? Guys fast as eff and runs like Chris Johnson.

Clausen has made some nice strinds but if he came out i dont see him cracking the top 10. He still needs work.

 

on what?

Not going to Notre Dame, I guess.

[shnsajax]

Screw top 10, Clausen probably is a top 5 pick. QBs always go higher than they should and he's a legitimate top-10/top-15 talent.

 

Especially based on potential. He needs to sit a year as the backup, but no teams are going to pass him up unless they have no need to draft a QB.

[Andy]

Screw top 10, Clausen probably is a top 5 pick. QBs always go higher than they should and he's a legitimate top-10/top-15 talent.

 

Especially based on potential. He needs to sit a year as the backup, but no teams are going to pass him up unless they have no need to draft a QB.

Shut up guys, he can't know about this. :D

[Guest]

I know we were talking about Brian Bulaga about a page or so ago but I thought he looked healthy and much better in yesterday's Iowa game. If he can keep that up, he's a top 15 pick.

[TruffleShuffle]

This is the first year in a long time that Penn State doesn't have any clear cut Day One players. Perhaps if Evan Royster comes out early or if Sean Lee has a great combine....

 

are we considering top 3 rounds to be day one? if so, jared odrick will go on day one unless his combine is a complete disaster, and if navorro bowman comes out he'll probably go in the first round.

[TheVolCub08]

While we're doing this, here's a Sports Illustrated 2010 mock draft.

 

Some notables:

 

Rams trade up for 1st pick and take Bradford.

Al Davis and the Raiders take Eric Berry with the 2nd pick.

Dan Snyder falls in love with and drafts Tim Tebow at 13.

The pick the Broncos got from the Bears is the #21 pick (which I believe means playoffs for Chicago).

The Titans take Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma (I really love this idea, I wanted him this year).

3 Alabama players and 4 Florida players go in the first round (13 SEC players total).

Oklahoma leads the way with 5 players taken.

 

I'm not saying "take it to the bank", but I'm hearing- from 3 different directions- that Berry is staying for his senior year at Tennessee. Two of the sources are the same ones that assured me of black jerseys back in September. These two sources have been right about Tyler Smith staying, specific coaches being hired, and a couple of smaller items.

 

This could mean that Tennessee returns 10 starters on D next season.

[TruffleShuffle]

i kinda like eric berry and would feel sorry for him if the raiders draft him.

[Guest]

i kinda like eric berry and would feel sorry for him if the raiders draft him.

 

He just needs to ease up a bit on the 40 and he'll be fine.

[hawkeyecub]

I know we were talking about Brian Bulaga about a page or so ago but I thought he looked healthy and much better in yesterday's Iowa game. If he can keep that up, he's a top 15 pick.

 

He has the tools. I'm just holding out hope that the feedback he gets is he isn't going to be as high as he possibly could have been because of the lack of healthy play he has on tape.

 

Amari Spievey at CB is probably gone from what I've heard though. Kiper has him as the #3 CB this year and he's apparently set to leave if he's a 2nd round pick or better.

[Andy]

That mock draft was posted last April and is kinda irrelevant now.