Cub prospects in the news

[Tyrant]

Baez generates silly amounts of torque in his setup and swing, which can make a baseball have a sad

 

Oh shut the hell up. This person is awful.

 

Yeah, that was stupid

[Guest]

have there been any recent updates on the status of vizcaino or almora?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Rock Shoulders cracks #7 in the BA prospect hot sheet, so there's that.

 

7. Rock Shoulders, 1b/lf, Cubs

 

Team: low Class A Kane County (Midwest)

 

Age: 21

 

Why He’s Here: .533/.650/1.067 (8-for-15), 6 R, 2 2B, 2 HR, 4 RBIs, 5 BB, 3 SO

 

The Scoop: Shoulders was solid in short-season Boise last year, but this season he’s showing he’s more than just a minor league slugger with a superhero name. Shoulders has reached base in 16 of his 17 games and is hitting .406/.486/.656 with four home runs. His best tool is power, but he’s also showing signs of improvement with his contact frequency, which was one of the question marks on him coming into the year.

[ctcf]

Rock Shoulders cracks #7 in the BA prospect hot sheet, so there's that.

 

7. Rock Shoulders, 1b/lf, Cubs

 

Team: low Class A Kane County (Midwest)

 

Age: 21

 

Why He’s Here: .533/.650/1.067 (8-for-15), 6 R, 2 2B, 2 HR, 4 RBIs, 5 BB, 3 SO

 

The Scoop: Shoulders was solid in short-season Boise last year, but this season he’s showing he’s more than just a minor league slugger with a superhero name. Shoulders has reached base in 16 of his 17 games and is hitting .406/.486/.656 with four home runs. His best tool is power, but he’s also showing signs of improvement with his contact frequency, which was one of the question marks on him coming into the year.

 

lol at that line

 

lovelovelove that report

[imb]

he's 21 in low a, who cares?

[mul21]

he's 21 in low a, who cares?

 

The average age of hitters in the MWL as of 2009 (the only number I could find) was 21.6. What's your point? He's in his first full season of pro ball and hitting well. Reason to be excited, yes. Reason to think he's going to become a future perennial .900 OPS guy, no. Quit hating everything. Might have to start calling you Kyle Jr.

[imb]

he's 21 in low a, who cares?

 

The average age of hitters in the MWL as of 2009 (the only number I could find) was 21.6. What's your point? He's in his first full season of pro ball and hitting well. Reason to be excited, yes. Reason to think he's going to become a future perennial .900 OPS guy, no. Quit hating everything. Might have to start calling you Kyle Jr.

 

he's the age of a college draftee hitting in a league he should be hitting well in. He can't defend or do anything else, so its not worth getting too excited about

[CubsInNC]

he's 21 in low a, who cares?

 

The average age of hitters in the MWL as of 2009 (the only number I could find) was 21.6. What's your point? He's in his first full season of pro ball and hitting well. Reason to be excited, yes. Reason to think he's going to become a future perennial .900 OPS guy, no. Quit hating everything. Might have to start calling you Kyle Jr.

 

he's the age of a college draftee hitting in a league he should be hitting well in. He can't defend or do anything else, so its not worth getting too excited about

 

Average Batter Age MWL Current: 21.3

Kane County as a team: 20.5 (2nd lowest in league) (evidently I can't tell numbers, and 20.1 is lower)

[Banedon]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-chicago-daytona-soler-20130429,0,5178532.story

 

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

Keller told the Daytona Beach News-Journal Soler sat “because within the philosophy and the work ethic that we are trying to create in this organization -- and that we are trying to get our players to understand – work ethic, energy, determination, playing hard and running hard is part of the whole program. When you don't do that, then you don't get to play. That's something that has really been emphasized over the last two years.”

[jersey cubs fan]

thekapman just ruined his slacks

[Cubswin11]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-chicago-daytona-soler-20130429,0,5178532.story

 

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

Keller told the Daytona Beach News-Journal Soler sat “because within the philosophy and the work ethic that we are trying to create in this organization -- and that we are trying to get our players to understand – work ethic, energy, determination, playing hard and running hard is part of the whole program. When you don't do that, then you don't get to play. That's something that has really been emphasized over the last two years.”

Between the bat incident and now this the local guys are going to turn him into some sort of uber-lazy, firery Latin, me first, lacks focus, brown guy if he keeps rising/when he gets to Chicago.

[GammonsPocketTweets]

THAT WILL TEACH HIM! INSTILL THAT TWTW

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-chicago-daytona-soler-20130429,0,5178532.story

 

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

Keller told the Daytona Beach News-Journal Soler sat “because within the philosophy and the work ethic that we are trying to create in this organization -- and that we are trying to get our players to understand – work ethic, energy, determination, playing hard and running hard is part of the whole program. When you don't do that, then you don't get to play. That's something that has really been emphasized over the last two years.”

 

I don't have a problem with this but I would prefer they tell the minor league coaches to STFU to the media about these specific situations. Let the kid know what you're doing, but don't go building up the media's case for them.

[Guest]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-chicago-daytona-soler-20130429,0,5178532.story

 

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

Keller told the Daytona Beach News-Journal Soler sat “because within the philosophy and the work ethic that we are trying to create in this organization -- and that we are trying to get our players to understand – work ethic, energy, determination, playing hard and running hard is part of the whole program. When you don't do that, then you don't get to play. That's something that has really been emphasized over the last two years.”

 

I don't have a problem with this but I would prefer they tell the minor league coaches to STFU to the media about these specific situations. Let the kid know what you're doing, but don't go building up the media's case for them.

 

This exactly.

[Guest]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-chicago-daytona-soler-20130429,0,5178532.story

 

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

Keller told the Daytona Beach News-Journal Soler sat “because within the philosophy and the work ethic that we are trying to create in this organization -- and that we are trying to get our players to understand – work ethic, energy, determination, playing hard and running hard is part of the whole program. When you don't do that, then you don't get to play. That's something that has really been emphasized over the last two years.”

 

I don't have a problem with this but I would prefer they tell the minor league coaches to STFU to the media about these specific situations. Let the kid know what you're doing, but don't go building up the media's case for them.

 

I agree.

 

The problem is the local media (and if it's a big time prospect, national media/major league city media asks too) pesters these coaches when a top prospect is subbed out or doesn't start. Is he injured, etc?

 

Same thing happened with Yasiel Puig earlier this month (he was pulled for a "teachable moment"). Given local and national media questioning him, the manager of the Dodgers AA team had to clarify that it was on-field discipline, not injury or an off-field issue.

[jersey cubs fan]

The problem is the local media pesters these coaches when a top prospect is subbed out or doesn't start. Is he injured, etc?

 

Same thing happened with Yasiel Puig earlier this month (he was pulled for a "teachable moment"). Given local and national media questioning him, the manager of the Dodgers AA team had to clarify that it was on-field discipline, not injury or an off-field issue.

 

If NHL coaches and Bill Belichik can completely ignore questions from major market media types in front of the camera about players' injuries when everybody knows there is an injury then I think they can teach a minor league manager to blow off questions from the Daytona news. Dealing with the media is something managers have to learn, so teach them not to answer questions about player discipline. Call it a coach's decision and be done with it.

[Cubswin11]

The problem is the local media pesters these coaches when a top prospect is subbed out or doesn't start. Is he injured, etc?

 

Same thing happened with Yasiel Puig earlier this month (he was pulled for a "teachable moment"). Given local and national media questioning him, the manager of the Dodgers AA team had to clarify that it was on-field discipline, not injury or an off-field issue.

 

If NHL coaches and Bill Belichik can completely ignore questions from major market media types in front of the camera about players' injuries when everybody knows there is an injury then I think they can teach a minor league manager to blow off questions from the Daytona news. Dealing with the media is something managers have to learn, so teach them not to answer questions about player discipline. Call it a coach's decision and be done with it.

Yeah, just tell the coach to say, if they pull a guy during the game for this stuff , his hamstring tightened up or he's been dealing with the flu or something and if he sits the whole game just say it was a scheduled off day and he get his work in before/after the game.

[jersey cubs fan]

The problem is the local media pesters these coaches when a top prospect is subbed out or doesn't start. Is he injured, etc?

 

Same thing happened with Yasiel Puig earlier this month (he was pulled for a "teachable moment"). Given local and national media questioning him, the manager of the Dodgers AA team had to clarify that it was on-field discipline, not injury or an off-field issue.

 

If NHL coaches and Bill Belichik can completely ignore questions from major market media types in front of the camera about players' injuries when everybody knows there is an injury then I think they can teach a minor league manager to blow off questions from the Daytona news. Dealing with the media is something managers have to learn, so teach them not to answer questions about player discipline. Call it a coach's decision and be done with it.

Yeah just tell them to say if they pull a guy for this stuff to say his hamstring tightened up or he's been dealing with the flu or something and if he sits the whole game just say it was a scheduled off day and he get his work in before/after the game.

 

I wouldn't make up injuries but I would just say "scheduled off day", or some variation.

[Guest]

Albert Almora ‏@albertalmora 3h

Felt great to be out there with the guys and play again! First rehab game in the books! #FeelingGood #Cubs

[videographer]

So Soler became one of the first prominent examples of the Cubs Way, finding himself on the bench Sunday for failing to run hard.

 

I attended the Kane County game on Saturday. V-bomb was pinch hit for in the 5th inning. He was the DH. His previous AB he hit a grounder to 2B and carried his bat to first base, not running full speed. Nothing was said if he was injured. I would suggest now that he was taken out by the manager for not hustling.

[Banedon]

Predictably, Mully and Hanley has Jon Heyman on this morning and they all had a nice circle jerk about the Soler situation, praising the Cubs for benching him, while simultaneously mocking the idea of "The Cubs Way".

[Guest]

More of the same:

 

@MattSpiegel670: Daytona Cubs manager Dave Keller will be on @MacAndSpiegs at 11:30 to talk about disciplining Jorge Soler, & the skills of he & Javier Baez.

[Guest]

I totally get that the media fodder here is irritating, but I'm not sure if ignoring it(or worse, lying about it) is the way to go. Seems contradictory to me to have something be important enough to the organization to bench a player over, but they can't mention it to the media because they're afraid that the media will draw unfair conclusions?

[jersey cubs fan]

I totally get that the media fodder here is irritating, but I'm not sure if ignoring it(or worse, lying about it) is the way to go. Seems contradictory to me to have something be important enough to the organization to bench a player over, but they can't mention it to the media because they're afraid that the media will draw unfair conclusions?

 

I don't see how that is contradictory at all. It's fairly simple. It's a locker room issue, or clubhouse issue I guess in baseball. It is not something that needs to be discussed with media members. It is not something minor league managers need to get on the phone with hosts back home in Chicago to discuss. It is the sort of thing that has happened throughout baseball history, without running to the media to tell them all about how dedicated to discipline you are. It is done in all walks of sports. It's not lying or ignoring, it's simply standard operating procedure for coaches.

[Guest]

I just don't see the point in airing dirty laundry at the minor league level. These guys are younger, they're learning, etc. and there's no need for the media to treat them like some big league veteran not running out plays.