Does your kid believe in Santa?

[imb]

it's time for the feats of strength

 

*child pins cubbiebum easily*

[CubbieBum]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

[Derwood]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

[CubbieBum]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

[CubbieBum]

it's time for the feats of strength

 

*child pins cubbiebum easily*

 

Now here's a fine IMB post.

 

I seriously don't understand how you haven't been banned. Half your posts are personal attacks, trolling or have absolutely no barring on the conversation in a thread.

[CubbieBum]

but seriously, judging by the lunacy that has come from cubbiebum in this thread, is there any chance whatsoever that his kid grows up to be normal? i'm being totally serious. kids with parentsl ike him always grow up being really weird.

 

 

They'll be fine they'll have February small gift-giving from your parents half week.

 

Please don't trivialize my holidays. I grew up fond of that holiday just as you probably did with Christmas and to trivialize it like you are is incredibly rude, insensitive and stupid.

[GhostRunner]

It might be worth mentioning that Christmas itself is strongly connected to some very non-Christian beliefs, primarily Yule, an ancient pagan winter festival. Yule logs, decorated evergreen trees, mistletoe, wreaths, and gift giving are all Yule traditions, not Christian ones.

 

December 25 itself was chosen by the Catholic Church as Christmas not because it's Christ's birthday (which is unknown), but to offset the "damning" influence of the pagan Yule holiday. Even the Santa Claus figure, with his reindeer sleigh, has roots in paganistic beliefs.

 

When you think about it, Christmas itself is barely Christian, and even less so when you consider its modern materialistic bent and the fact that people everywhere - Christian or not - celebrate it for the simple fact of gathering together and enjoying life.

[Derwood]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

 

no, my original point was that my problem isn't that you don't celebrate Christmas, it's that you're saying that you're going to force a 3 year old to not believe in Santa. Let them believe what they want to. You're not even a parent and you already sound like the "my kid's will NOT read Harry Potter because there are witches in it" type of parent.

 

i'll illustrate an example of what I mean. when my first daughter was born, my wife and I made a conscious decision to not make everything she wore pink, her nursery pink, etc. In other words, we weren't going to do the stereotypical gender color stuff. Now my daughter is almost 6, and she loves pink stuff, princesses, etc. We never said that she WOULDN'T ever wear pink, just that we weren't going to force it on her.

 

you sound like the parent who will be saying "my child WON'T ________" a lot

[WrigleyField 22]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

Christmas causes wars?

[WrigleyField 22]

Wait nevermind

 

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/15/santa.jpg

 

Santa is evil.

[CubbieBum]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

 

no, my original point was that my problem isn't that you don't celebrate Christmas, it's that you're saying that you're going to force a 3 year old to not believe in Santa. Let them believe what they want to. You're not even a parent and you already sound like the "my kid's will NOT read Harry Potter because there are witches in it" type of parent.

 

i'll illustrate an example of what I mean. when my first daughter was born, my wife and I made a conscious decision to not make everything she wore pink, her nursery pink, etc. In other words, we weren't going to do the stereotypical gender color stuff. Now my daughter is almost 6, and she loves pink stuff, princesses, etc. We never said that she WOULDN'T ever wear pink, just that we weren't going to force it on her.

 

you sound like the parent who will be saying "my child WON'T ________" a lot

 

My kids won't believe in Santa Claus because I won't tell them the lie that he exists. Its not so much me not allowing them as them just not learning about him. I'm sure at some point they will ask me who he is because other kids are talking about it (or I might tell them at some point its not a decision one parent makes but both so I don't know). I won't tell them the lie I will tell them about St. Nick and how the legend came from that.

 

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

 

Also I too will not have my sons have blue and my daughters have pink. They will have all colors. My children will have a lot of freedom as I did. Kids don't learn from you telling them no they learn from doing it and see the bad effects. I will warn my kids about alcohol and drugs early on and throughout their life as my parents did but I will do as my father did with me. When I got old enough to start with that stuff he told me be careful, do what you think is right but know that if you get caught that's when all he liberties stop (actually told me home right after school and never go out except for sports).

 

All I've tried to do in this thread is make people realize there is more than one way to raise kids and they don't have to grow up with Christmas to be functional adults. No one has acknowledged that fact yet.

[Derwood]

there is a difference between not introducing the Santa myth to your kids and actively telling them that it's false when they discover it for themselves. if your kid hears about it from a friend or at school (and they will) and thinks it a cool thing, are you going to ruin his fun by flat out telling him it's not true? are you going to turn your kid into the a-hole in elementary school who ruins Santa for everyone?

[imb]

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

[SouthSideRyan]

You parents on here would be wise to heed this 22 year old childless aspiring gournalist's advice.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

 

no, my original point was that my problem isn't that you don't celebrate Christmas, it's that you're saying that you're going to force a 3 year old to not believe in Santa. Let them believe what they want to. You're not even a parent and you already sound like the "my kid's will NOT read Harry Potter because there are witches in it" type of parent.

 

i'll illustrate an example of what I mean. when my first daughter was born, my wife and I made a conscious decision to not make everything she wore pink, her nursery pink, etc. In other words, we weren't going to do the stereotypical gender color stuff. Now my daughter is almost 6, and she loves pink stuff, princesses, etc. We never said that she WOULDN'T ever wear pink, just that we weren't going to force it on her.

 

you sound like the parent who will be saying "my child WON'T ________" a lot

 

My kids won't believe in Santa Claus because I won't tell them the lie that he exists. Its not so much me not allowing them as them just not learning about him. I'm sure at some point they will ask me who he is because other kids are talking about it (or I might tell them at some point its not a decision one parent makes but both so I don't know). I won't tell them the lie I will tell them about St. Nick and how the legend came from that.

 

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

 

Also I too will not have my sons have blue and my daughters have pink. They will have all colors. My children will have a lot of freedom as I did. Kids don't learn from you telling them no they learn from doing it and see the bad effects. I will warn my kids about alcohol and drugs early on and throughout their life as my parents did but I will do as my father did with me. When I got old enough to start with that stuff he told me be careful, do what you think is right but know that if you get caught that's when all he liberties stop (actually told me home right after school and never go out except for sports).

 

All I've tried to do in this thread is make people realize there is more than one way to raise kids and they don't have to grow up with Christmas to be functional adults. No one has acknowledged that fact yet.

 

 

Be sure you explain all this to your future spouse before having children. And hopefully, she'll set your straight.

[CubbieBum]

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

 

Congrats on another completely pointless post. What kind of troll are you BTW?

[CubbieBum]

Seriously people stop being ignorant and realize there are other religions and other holidays out there and you don't have to have Christmas to be normal. I guess no one but those who celebrate Christmas can be normal to you guys nevermind that eliminates half the world. Please stay in this country and never travel anywhere else because you obviously can't fathom that their are other cultures out there that do stuff differently.

 

you're missing the point

 

No I understand the point that Christmas doesn't have to be religious but you are the missing the point that you don't have to celebrate Christmas. I have found memories from childhood and none of them involve Christmas. I know I had a good childhood and never resented or was upset that I didn't get to celebrate Christmas. The idea that Christmas is a must and any kid who doesn't celebrate it must be deprived is beyond idiotic. That's extreme ignorance of other traditions, religions and cultures. It's this type of thinking that leads to wars. You think people can't live without what you believe they need and eventually try to force it on people and they resist.

 

Wake up realize there is more than one way to think about Christmas and that millions in this country alone grow up without it and turn out just fine.

 

no, my original point was that my problem isn't that you don't celebrate Christmas, it's that you're saying that you're going to force a 3 year old to not believe in Santa. Let them believe what they want to. You're not even a parent and you already sound like the "my kid's will NOT read Harry Potter because there are witches in it" type of parent.

 

i'll illustrate an example of what I mean. when my first daughter was born, my wife and I made a conscious decision to not make everything she wore pink, her nursery pink, etc. In other words, we weren't going to do the stereotypical gender color stuff. Now my daughter is almost 6, and she loves pink stuff, princesses, etc. We never said that she WOULDN'T ever wear pink, just that we weren't going to force it on her.

 

you sound like the parent who will be saying "my child WON'T ________" a lot

 

My kids won't believe in Santa Claus because I won't tell them the lie that he exists. Its not so much me not allowing them as them just not learning about him. I'm sure at some point they will ask me who he is because other kids are talking about it (or I might tell them at some point its not a decision one parent makes but both so I don't know). I won't tell them the lie I will tell them about St. Nick and how the legend came from that.

 

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

 

Also I too will not have my sons have blue and my daughters have pink. They will have all colors. My children will have a lot of freedom as I did. Kids don't learn from you telling them no they learn from doing it and see the bad effects. I will warn my kids about alcohol and drugs early on and throughout their life as my parents did but I will do as my father did with me. When I got old enough to start with that stuff he told me be careful, do what you think is right but know that if you get caught that's when all he liberties stop (actually told me home right after school and never go out except for sports).

 

All I've tried to do in this thread is make people realize there is more than one way to raise kids and they don't have to grow up with Christmas to be functional adults. No one has acknowledged that fact yet.

 

 

Be sure you explain all this to your future spouse before having children. And hopefully, she'll set your straight.

 

23 year old thank you. And I've made it obvious in my posts that I believe there are many more than one way to raise your kid.

[imb]

I read Harry Potter (waited in line at midnight for the last two) and could very well read it to my kids.

 

Congrats on another completely pointless post. What kind of troll are you BTW?

 

woah, take a breath. i just thought it was funny that it read like you were bragging that you would be able to read a book to you kids

 

i didn't even post your picture or anything

[Vanilla Ice]

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

 

I have been mentally ready for a kid since before 18

[Ski]

My kids won't believe in Santa Claus because I won't tell them the lie that he exists. Its not so much me not allowing them as them just not learning about him. I'm sure at some point they will ask me who he is because other kids are talking about it (or I might tell them at some point its not a decision one parent makes but both so I don't know). I won't tell them the lie I will tell them about St. Nick and how the legend came from that.

This is why, before my child goes to preschool (in the rare chance I actually have kids) I'm going to tell him/her that some kids at school will believe in a fictional being who delivers presnts on Christmas, and not to believe those kids. I still plan on having Christmas, just without Santa.

 

Should be interesting once my kid tells other kids that Santa doesn't exist, though.

[Derwood]

My kids won't believe in Santa Claus because I won't tell them the lie that he exists. Its not so much me not allowing them as them just not learning about him. I'm sure at some point they will ask me who he is because other kids are talking about it (or I might tell them at some point its not a decision one parent makes but both so I don't know). I won't tell them the lie I will tell them about St. Nick and how the legend came from that.

This is why, before my child goes to preschool (in the rare chance I actually have kids) I'm going to tell him/her that some kids at school will believe in a fictional being who delivers presnts on Christmas, and not to believe those kids. I still plan on having Christmas, just without Santa.

 

Should be interesting once my kid tells other kids that Santa doesn't exist, though.

 

especially if their dads own guns

[NCCubFan]

December 25 itself was chosen by the Catholic Church as Christmas not because it's Christ's birthday (which is unknown), but to offset the "damning" influence of the pagan Yule holiday.

Not only is the exact date unknown, it's generally acknowledged that it could NOT have been anytime around Dec. 25. Based on things like shepherds being out with their flocks the general consensus that I've seen is that it was most likely during spring or summer, not winter.

[rocket]

i don't believe in jesus but i love christmas. i can't imagine what a cruel world it would be to deprive my child of it.

[CubbieBum]

i don't believe in jesus but i love christmas. i can't imagine what a cruel world it would be to deprive my child of it.

 

That's because it doesn't exist.

[CubbieBum]

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v237/143/78/20718022/n20718022_36214643_3947.jpg

 

I have been mentally ready for a kid since before 18

 

Another quality post.