Justify why Josh Hamilton should be in the Top 10 in AL MVP

[TruffleShuffle]

i'd love to hear badnews' MVP Top 10

 

1. a-rod

2. well i can't think of anyone else who is really that good....

3. ... i mean none of these guys are really hall of famers or anything....

4-10. everyone sucks.

[Derwood]

do you not believe in jet planes because you don't understand how they work?

[sneakypower]

do you not believe in jet planes because you don't understand how they work?

thats kind of a dumb comparison

 

really dumb

[Tracer Bullet]

 

If this was any other player, you'd all be agreeing.

 

where are you getting this delusional idea that everyone here loooooooves josh hamilton?

 

this is the part I don't understand. If this were an Adam Dunn discussion, I could understand this argument (though the rumors of the board's love for Dunn are greatly exaggerated, as they are for most players). But I don't recall seeing thread after thread after thread created to praise Hamilton or having his name brought up in dozens of threads that weren't about him. Other than the HR derby and some random posts about how "the Cubs should have never traded him away," I don't see his name come up any more than any other non-Cub.

[Warpticon]

Nope, just not comprehending what I'm writing.

 

Because you don't make any sense. Cause >>> effect.

 

I love how everybody else flips out when Hamilton is questioned, yet you cant stop posting. This is a highly entertaining level of folly.

[Soul]

Seriously, I hadn't heard Hamilton's name mentioned on this board since the all star break.

 

This entire thread is based on a fallacy.

[Derwood]

do you not believe in jet planes because you don't understand how they work?

thats kind of a dumb comparison

 

really dumb

 

no, tossing aside stats that don't support your case (under the pretense that one doesn't understand the formula) is really dumb

 

using stats incorrectly to support your case is also really dumb (re: OPS+)

[David]

This thread is hilarious...

 

I went from being completely dumbfounded at badnews's suggestion that NSBB had/has some kind of love affair with Josh Hamilton to total amusement with terrible, irrational arguments made against Hamilton.

 

 

I do think Hamilton is a bit overrated in general...but among NSBBers? Not so much.

 

 

As for the formulas for stats like VORP, they're not really available (although you could probably ask Meph to come up with something close... I remember him posting about it for some stat before), and it's a bit closed-minded, IMO, to discount the stats just because we aren't made aware of how they're calculated.

[David]

do you not believe in jet planes because you don't understand how they work?

thats kind of a dumb comparison

 

really dumb

 

no, tossing aside stats that don't support your case (under the pretense that one doesn't understand the formula) is really dumb

 

using stats incorrectly to support your case is also really dumb (re: OPS+)

 

even though i'm on your side of it, it was a pretty bad analogy...

[Derwood]

do you not believe in jet planes because you don't understand how they work?

thats kind of a dumb comparison

 

really dumb

 

no, tossing aside stats that don't support your case (under the pretense that one doesn't understand the formula) is really dumb

 

using stats incorrectly to support your case is also really dumb (re: OPS+)

 

even though i'm on your side of it, it was a pretty bad analogy...

 

not my best

[abuck1220]

i'm so sick of this board and its undying love for joey gathright. everywhere i look i see people clamoring to trade for him, giving him mvp votes, etc. it's sickening...he had a 55 OPS+ this year...55!!! that's terrible. you guys are such idiots.

[rocket]

i'm so sick of this board and its undying love for joey gathright. everywhere i look i see people clamoring to trade for him, giving him mvp votes, etc. it's sickening...he had a 55 OPS+ this year...55!!! that's terrible. you guys are such idiots.

 

yeah, he looks bad if you cherry pick 1 stat that you don't even understand. his ops+ at angels stadium for his career is 224! it's pretty easy to see from that why he's so valuable.

 

plus, there's this intangible:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cySfw8f0beg

[abuck1220]

see, there you go...unanimous board love for a guy that everyone should know is terrible. thanks for proving my point.

 

VICTORY.

[imb]

see, there you go...unanimous board love for a guy that everyone should know is terrible. thanks for proving my point.

 

VICTORY.

 

i feel like this is "overboard" and i'm kurt russel and everyone else is goldie hawn and i'm like let's do it

[David]

this is backdraft and i'm a fireman and you guys are all the fire i have to put out

[Sammy Sofa]

This is like Junior and I'm Arnold and you're all my freak baby of science and I have to birth you through my wang.

[Derwood]

still waiting on badnews' list of 10 AL players more deserving than hamilton

[Ding Dong Johnson]

this is like Big Trouble in Little China where I'm Kurt Russell and you're in Little China

[imb]

still waiting on badnews' list of 10 AL players more deserving than hamilton

 

especially since it won't include hamilton or bradley. (Kinsler was equal in each park)

[sneakypower]

if it features Youkilis at the top i'll lash out in a violent manner reminiscent of Kurt Russell in 3000 Miles to Graceland

[imb]

where are the escape from l.a. jokes

[abuck1220]

if i've learned anything in this thread it's that kurt russell doesn't have a very impressive filmography.

[Tracer Bullet]

if i've learned anything in this thread it's that kurt russell doesn't have a very impressive filmography.

 

I'm your huckleberry.

 

[i know that wasn't Russell's line, but that's a great movie]

[Sammy Sofa]

This is like Captain Ron and everything sucks ass and only I am not sucking ass.

[Outshined_One]

This is like the Imaginationland episode of South Park where I'm Kurt Russell and I got raped