Zambrano out of shape?

[Irrelevant Dude]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year have been due to his lack of commitment to keeping himself in shape. There was some mention of a back problem and not doing all the necessary exercises to stay in top condition. I have no idea how reliable this "reliable source" is, but I don't think it is completely out of the question. Did anyone else catch the whole segment?

[David]

Well, he's obviously not in shape.

[17 Seconds]

Didn't Zambrano and Soto have an offseason bet of who could show up to ST with the lowest body fat?

 

I don't buy this. 4 bad starts (a stretch he goes through every year) and suddenly he's out of shape? He looks the same as he always has.

[David]

Didn't Zambrano and Soto have an offseason bet of who could show up to ST with the lowest body fat?

 

I don't buy this. 4 bad starts (a stretch he goes through every year) and suddenly he's out of shape? He looks the same as he always has.

 

 

That was before 07.

[Bote McBoteface]

He's had 3 bad starts...I'm quite a bit unconcerned.

[David]

He's had 3 bad starts...I'm quite a bit unconcerned.

 

 

4, actually, in a row....

 

Just because he got away with pitching poorly the time before last doesn't mean he pitched well.

[Derwood]

Didn't Zambrano and Soto have an offseason bet of who could show up to ST with the lowest body fat?

 

I don't buy this. 4 bad starts (a stretch he goes through every year) and suddenly he's out of shape? He looks the same as he always has.

 

apparently they've had eating contests every since

[Laura]

Some players have a tendency to pack on weight during the season. It's easier to get a steady work-out routine and diet going in the off-season.

[Brett]

His velocity was down in the last start, wasn't it? That doesn't say out of shape to me. It says arm fatigue to me.

[Wilson A2000]

He's had 3 bad starts...I'm quite a bit unconcerned.

 

 

4, actually, in a row....

 

Just because he got away with pitching poorly the time before last doesn't mean he pitched well.

 

Vs Cincy two starts ago he pitched 7 innings and gave up 1 earned run. I don't care if he got away with pitching poorly, but he has not had 4 bad starts in a row. You don't go 7 and give up 1 and call that a bad start.

 

If he is out of shape, it will show up now - in the dog days of summer. Let's hope he has something left in the tank.

[David]

He's had 3 bad starts...I'm quite a bit unconcerned.

 

 

4, actually, in a row....

 

Just because he got away with pitching poorly the time before last doesn't mean he pitched well.

 

Vs Cincy two starts ago he pitched 7 innings and gave up 1 earned run. I don't care if he got away with pitching poorly, but he has not had 4 bad starts in a row. You don't go 7 and give up 1 and call that a bad start.

 

If he is out of shape, it will show up now - in the dog days of summer. Let's hope he has something left in the tank.

 

 

When he only threw like 55% strikes, I'll call it a bad start, regardless of the result...especially for the purpose of determining whether or not his bad starts are the result of some sort of trend.

 

If you want to stick your head in the sand about it because he managed to avoid actually giving up runs, feel free to do so.

Edited August 28, 2008 by David

[Ding Dong Johnson]

is round a shape?

[ChiCubsfan0502]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

[David]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

 

Yea, he hasn't been bad recently or anything.

 

Stop trolling.

[El Rojito]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

I wonder if you missed the memo that said in the past four weeks Zambrano has a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP.

 

Or maybe you got that memo but missed the memo that said a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP is indicative of a "struggle."

[CubbieBum]

is round a shape?

 

circle is

[ChiCubsfan0502]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

 

Yea, he hasn't been bad recently or anything.

 

Stop trolling.

 

Trolling??

:rotfl:

 

Umm, yea, not like Z hasn't done this in August before. Let me introduce you to last August, 2007. Seriously, get a grip.

[David]

Yes, because one slump by a player one year means the same thing will happen the next year and that there's nothing to worry about when it does.

 

Just ask Bob Howry. He's a lights out second half reliever.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

I wonder if you missed the memo that said in the past four weeks Zambrano has a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP.

 

Or maybe you got that memo but missed the memo that said a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP is indicative of a "struggle."

 

August has never been a good month for him. For more evidence, please see August of 2007. Is he pitching poorly? Sure. Am I worried? Not a bit.

 

Talk to me in September.

[David]

I only caught a portion of this today on The Score, with Matt Abbatacola filling in for Boers, but Matt said that he has a reliable source who indicated that a big part of Zambrano's struggles this year ?

 

 

I must have missed the memo that said 13-5 is considered a "struggle".

I wonder if you missed the memo that said in the past four weeks Zambrano has a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP.

 

Or maybe you got that memo but missed the memo that said a 7.42 ERA and a 1.725 WHIP is indicative of a "struggle."

 

August has never been a good month for him. For more evidence, please see August of 2007. Is he pitching poorly? Sure. Am I worried? Not a bit.

 

Talk to me in September.

 

You're wrong, but ok.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=4499&type=pitching&year=2003

 

Go ahead and look at his August numbers from 2003-2006 and let me know how bad they are.

 

Not that there was any need to disprove this ridiculous theory.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

August 2007 Z's ERA was over 7 and he had an 0-4 record. As I said, welcome to 2007. I should have just said his last two August performances were bad, which they have been.

 

And just like last year, I'm not worried a bit. Now, if it continues into September, then I'll be concerned.

 

Not sure where all the worry comes from. He's a horse and he always has been. He's slumping but if you have watched Z at all in his career, you know he'll be lights out soon enough.

 

But go ahead and worry. I mean, he's proven throughout his career he is a guy you can't count on. :roll:

[imb]

I'm worried

 

he goes through these little spurts where, for whatever reason, his game isn't on

 

i imagine he'll get out of it and it's nice that we have enough of a buffer (and an offense) to deal with it, i just don't want it to flare up during the playoffs.

[David]

I'm worried

 

he goes through these little spurts where, for whatever reason, his game isn't on

 

i imagine he'll get out of it and it's nice that we have enough of a buffer (and an offense) to deal with it, i just don't want it to flare up during the playoffs.

 

exactly.

 

plus, knowing z, there's always the possibility of some kind of injury or pain that he's hiding, and it's something that might not fix itself this year (especially as he tries to pitch thru it). it's probably unlikely, given his history, but it's certainly possible.

 

i'd at least like to see him get a few extra days of rest, maybe a turn skip or something.

[Sammy Sofa]

My biggest concern with the Cubs signing Z longterm is his problem of getting heavier throughout the season, even in recent years when he's shown up for spring training in great shape. He's said himself it's really hard for him to stay on a routine once the season is going that helps him keep the weiht down,a dn his weight problems have led to back issues in the past. I hope that's not the case here.

[C.C.]

I'd have him skip a start or two. No reason why we can't give him a break and have him strong for the stretch and October.