8/22 Nationals (Lannan) @ Cubs (Marquis) - 1:20 WGN

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

Just an FYI, the Brewers currently have lost 5 of 9 games to the Cincinnati Reds - the same ones coached by Dusty Baker.

 

So see, we're not the only good team to lose games to bad teams. :D

but the Reds are worser or something

[Hall7810]

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

Just an FYI, the Brewers currently have lost 5 of 9 games to the Cincinnati Reds - the same ones coached by Dusty Baker.

 

So see, we're not the only good team to lose games to bad teams. :D

 

 

BUT THEY HAD A FIGHT AND THEN THEY WERE GOOD!!

[Guest]

This gamethread could get itself locked before the game even ends

 

Don't think I haven't been tempted.

[David]

 

Dude, I remember being more pissed that the Bulls lost in the 72-win season to the Nuggets than that UCLA was eliminated in the first round by Princeton (granted I was in HS but I was a UCLA fan by then).

 

I wanted to jump off a ledge after every loss that year.

 

But I was 12.

[dew1679666265]

Also, I think it's worth noting that the ratio of people complaining about the pessimists to the people venting about the game is 10/2.

 

And this thread is annoying even with that ratio. God could you imagine what it would be if the ratio was reversed? There might be a suicide pact or something.

 

that'd certainly improve the quality of future game threads

 

to have the only two non-crazies dead and a game thread full of unbridled insanity?

 

wait i thought the crazies were killing themselves and we're only losing two rational people.

 

Could go either way. If the crazies don't kill themselves, the rational might have to just to escape the crazies.

I'm confused, should I kill myself or not?

 

Depends. Do you think this loss eliminated us from playoff contention?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

this has the makings of one of those big innings. I smell victory...

[Careless]

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

You could also point to the numerous other games the Cubs lost over the course of the season as being equally responsible, whether they were losses to the Brewers or to the Nationals.

 

Of course, ut he said that this game does not matter, then goes on to call ME ignorant.

 

I called the position an ignorant position to take. I never said YOU were ignorant.

Positions cannot be ignorant. They can only reflect on the ignorance of those who hold them

[17 Seconds]

And the best we can do against the Nationals this year is split our season series. Sad.

 

At the end of the year, are you gonna care?

 

If it costs us the division I will

 

If we lose the division, it's not going to be this game that's the cause. It's gonna be the 18 more that we lose down the stretch.

 

If we lose the division by 1 game, splitting the season series vs the worst team in baseball will have had nothig to do with it? Interesting logic.

 

If we lose the division by 1 game, that means we're losing to the likes of the Reds, Pirates, and Astros down the stretch. Those are division teams, that we play a ton of. Those records are much more meaningful than a couple of 3 game series against the Nats.

 

How about this? This game is a tradeoff for the one against the Marlins that we should've lost....

 

You're missing the point. You sid that it won't matter that we split the season series vs the Nats at the end of the season. If we end up losing the division by 1 game, it absolutely will have mattered. Yes there would be a big collapse in September, but that doesn't change the fact that we wouldn't have lost the division if we took care of the worst team in baseball.

 

All I'm sayin is that this team has not clinched anything yet, so people need to stop acting like we've got things wrapped up.

 

Nope. You're missing the point. One loss DOES NOT MATTER. Doesn't matter if what the margin of win/loss at the end is. It's a collective thing. This loss would matter exactly as much the other 49 this year. To put more importance on this game is ignorant.

 

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

The what-if game is fun.

 

Again, if we lose the division, that means that we've likely lost the season series to the Reds, and Astros. Why not play the what-if game with division opponents instead of the nationals who we only played 6 games against this season?

 

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

[dew1679666265]

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

Just an FYI, the Brewers currently have lost 5 of 9 games to the Cincinnati Reds - the same ones coached by Dusty Baker.

 

So see, we're not the only good team to lose games to bad teams. :D

 

 

BUT THEY HAD A FIGHT AND THEN THEY WERE GOOD!!

 

Maybe somebody will punch Gaudin then, for giving up homers to Ronnie Belliard and Willie Harris.

 

Then we'll be good too! :D

[TruffleShuffle]

Okay, let's say we finish one game out of a playoff spot. If we won the season series vs the Nats, do we finish one game out of a playoff spot? Answer me that question please, instead of calling me ignorant.

 

You could also point to the numerous other games the Cubs lost over the course of the season as being equally responsible, whether they were losses to the Brewers or to the Nationals.

 

Of course, ut he said that this game does not matter, then goes on to call ME ignorant.

 

I called the position an ignorant position to take. I never said YOU were ignorant.

 

maybe it's irrational, not ignorant. i mean, if the cubs do lose by a game, we'd eventually come back to games against the nationals and wish we hadn't lost them. but since the cubs are like 90% to win the division and 99% to make the playoffs, it's pretty irrational to spend 95% of your time talking about the possibility of a collapse.

[17 Seconds]

Wait, Soriano stole home? What happened?

[98navigator]

Lou already throwing in the towel by taking down Sori for Fontenot.

[Careless]

Wait, Soriano stole home? What happened?

Lee tried to steal second, Soriano broke for home, they threw home instead of tagging Lee out and ending the inning

[David]

 

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

 

 

That won't be happening.

 

 

I would kill to be able to bet my life savings and all debt I could possibly take on on a 98% shot (without getting horrendous odds, obviously).

[CubsBears29]

Remember when this game was 4-0 after 5 and seemed to be on "cruise control"?

 

:cray:

[Banedon]

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

 

Ignorant was a poor choice of wording, as it was meant to criticize the opinion, not the person, so I apologize for that if you took that against you personally.

 

However, this game individually doesn't matter...any more than any other game. And if we miss the playoffs, that's still true. At the end of the season, I promise you, we'll barely remember this game if we lose the division. There will be so much more heartbreak between now and then you'll look back on 2003 fondly.

[Outshined_One]

Remember when this game was 4-0 after 5 and seemed to be on "cruise control"?

 

:cray:

 

Remember when Marquis had a no-hitter going?

[17 Seconds]

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

 

Ignorant was a poor choice of wording, as it was meant to criticize the opinion, not the person, so I apologize for that if you took that against you personally.

 

However, this game individually doesn't matter...any more than any other game. And if we miss the playoffs, that's still true. At the end of the season, I promise you, we'll barely remember this game if we lose the division. There will be so much more heartbreak between now and then you'll look back on 2003 fondly.

 

You didn't say "this game doesn't matter more than others". You said it doesn't matter. Pretty big difference. And I'm not talking about how we'll feel about this loss if we blow it. I'm just saying it will have mattered.

Edited August 22, 2008 by 17 Seconds

[David]

To put it another way, I'm not going to spend any more time worrying about the Cubs missing the playoffs than I will hoping they come back to win this game.

[98navigator]

this has the makings of one of those big innings. I smell victory...

 

LOL, this made me laugh. Thanks.

 

Well, that crap is over. I'm glad tomorrow's game starts at noon. I wouldn't want to wait all day after that showing...

[Outshined_One]

Hey, isn't there a game on now?

[C.C.]

C'mon Pit!!!!

[TruffleShuffle]

what are the chances that the cubs pack up and move to oklahoma city in the middle of the night, out of embarrassment of losing this game? i'd say 98%.

[Banedon]

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

 

Ignorant was a poor choice of wording, as it was meant to criticize the opinion, not the person, so I apologize for that if you took that against you personally.

 

However, this game individually doesn't matter...any more than any other game. And if we miss the playoffs, that's still true. At the end of the season, I promise you, we'll barely remember this game if we lose the division. There will be so much more heartbreak between now and then you'll look back on 2003 fondly.

 

You didn't say "this game doesn't matter more than others". You said it doesn't matter. Pretty big difference.

 

How about this...if there was a ranking of losses and their importance, and if losses were in any way more important than one another, this one would be at or near the bottom.

[David]

A) You said this game doesn't matter

B) You implied that at the end of the season we won't care about not winning against the Nats

 

If we miss the playoffs, both of those statements are false, PERIOD. I'm not talking about the other losses. You call me ignorant, and then say that this game doesn't matter? Right.

 

Ignorant was a poor choice of wording, as it was meant to criticize the opinion, not the person, so I apologize for that if you took that against you personally.

 

However, this game individually doesn't matter...any more than any other game. And if we miss the playoffs, that's still true. At the end of the season, I promise you, we'll barely remember this game if we lose the division. There will be so much more heartbreak between now and then you'll look back on 2003 fondly.

 

You didn't say "this game doesn't matter more than others". You said it doesn't matter. Pretty big difference. And I'm not talking about how we'll feel about this loss if we blow it. I'm just saying it will have mattered.

 

It matters in your scenario that has about a 1% chance of happening. Literally.