dusty baker!

[CuseCubFan69]

If you listened to Baker talk though he mentioned quite often on how he brought his "winning attitude" to Chicago. I suppose mentioning how bad of a manager he is like hitting a golf ball off of a ship and hoping it'll hit water, it's just too easy.

Baker should also sometime drop a line about the drastic difference in talent put on the field in 03 vs 02. I didn't stay at a holiday inn express or nothing, but I think that may have had a lot more to do with the team being a whole bunch better that 1st year than his attitude

 

I think the writers are now starting to see this. It's the presses fault...it's the previous GM's fault...it's the previous coaches fault...it's the announcers fault...

 

How many years did the Reds sign him for? I hope they don't fire him for the duration of his contract.

3 year deal, and that could be a glorious 3 years for the rest of the NL central

 

Yep, the salad days. I anticipate the move of putting Patterson in the lead off spot to jump start the team.

[bukie]

I think it's amazing the turnaround Baker has brought in Cincy this year. At the beginning of the year, they looked to have a solid staff ace (Harang) with three young additions to the rotation that would make it dangerous (Cueto, Bailey, Volquez). On top of that, they had a power hitting lineup that rivaled anyone's (Dunn, Phillips, Griffey) with top young prospects ready to step in and provide even more offensive power (Votto, Bruce).

 

In four short months, Harang is basically ruined, Volquez is showing signs of wearing down, Bailey's been jerked around, Bruce spent 3 months in the minors deferring to Corey Patterson, and Dunn and Griffey are gone.

 

But the bullpen...that pen is one of the best in the NL, so mission accomplished.

[TruffleShuffle]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

[Jehrico]

So, was the 03 Cubs success was somebody else's fault as well? He'll take the wins but the losses are always somebody else's fault, coward.

 

I credit the rest of the division being horrible. 88 wins isn't really something to get impressed by, especially when that team was probably capable of better.

 

Last night's game against the Reds reminded me of every reason I'm glad Baker is no longer here. Terrible fundamentals, over-management of the bullpen.....sorry Reds fans

 

If you listened to Baker talk though he mentioned quite often on how he brought his "winning attitude" to Chicago. I suppose mentioning how bad of a manager he is like hitting a golf ball off of a ship and hoping it'll hit water, it's just too easy.

 

Remember when he used to talk about how "fundamentally sound" his teams ALWAYS were? I recall Bruce saying that Lou's guys were out there working on stuff and are a hard working group of coaches while Dusty's did little or nothing, it shows in the results.

Baker's teams were never ready coming out of spring training, and fundamentally sound are two words I wouldn't ever use to describe the 03-06 Cubs.

[Guest]

I think it's amazing the turnaround Baker has brought in Cincy this year. At the beginning of the year, they looked to have a solid staff ace (Harang) with three young additions to the rotation that would make it dangerous (Cueto, Bailey, Volquez). On top of that, they had a power hitting lineup that rivaled anyone's (Dunn, Phillips, Griffey) with top young prospects ready to step in and provide even more offensive power (Votto, Bruce).

 

In four short months, Harang is basically ruined, Volquez is showing signs of wearing down, Bailey's been jerked around, Bruce spent 3 months in the minors deferring to Corey Patterson, and Dunn and Griffey are gone.

 

But the bullpen...that pen is one of the best in the NL, so mission accomplished.

 

I figured he would at some point but I hadn't looked at the stats in a while.

 

Through June 20: 1.71 ERA, 1.17 WHIP

Since: 4.45 ERA, 1.54 WHIP

 

And that's after two starts where he threw a combined 13 2/3 innings, with 1 ER on 8 hits and 7 walks.

 

Go Dusty, go.

[CuseCubFan69]

So, was the 03 Cubs success was somebody else's fault as well? He'll take the wins but the losses are always somebody else's fault, coward.

 

I credit the rest of the division being horrible. 88 wins isn't really something to get impressed by, especially when that team was probably capable of better.

 

Last night's game against the Reds reminded me of every reason I'm glad Baker is no longer here. Terrible fundamentals, over-management of the bullpen.....sorry Reds fans

 

If you listened to Baker talk though he mentioned quite often on how he brought his "winning attitude" to Chicago. I suppose mentioning how bad of a manager he is like hitting a golf ball off of a ship and hoping it'll hit water, it's just too easy.

 

Remember when he used to talk about how "fundamentally sound" his teams ALWAYS were? I recall Bruce saying that Lou's guys were out there working on stuff and are a hard working group of coaches while Dusty's did little or nothing, it shows in the results.

Baker's teams were never ready coming out of spring training, and fundamentally sound are two words I wouldn't ever use to describe the 03-06 Cubs.

 

But that wasn't because of Dusty. His teams are always fundamentally sound!

[Jehrico]

So, was the 03 Cubs success was somebody else's fault as well? He'll take the wins but the losses are always somebody else's fault, coward.

 

I credit the rest of the division being horrible. 88 wins isn't really something to get impressed by, especially when that team was probably capable of better.

 

Last night's game against the Reds reminded me of every reason I'm glad Baker is no longer here. Terrible fundamentals, over-management of the bullpen.....sorry Reds fans

 

If you listened to Baker talk though he mentioned quite often on how he brought his "winning attitude" to Chicago. I suppose mentioning how bad of a manager he is like hitting a golf ball off of a ship and hoping it'll hit water, it's just too easy.

 

Remember when he used to talk about how "fundamentally sound" his teams ALWAYS were? I recall Bruce saying that Lou's guys were out there working on stuff and are a hard working group of coaches while Dusty's did little or nothing, it shows in the results.

Baker's teams were never ready coming out of spring training, and fundamentally sound are two words I wouldn't ever use to describe the 03-06 Cubs.

 

But that wasn't because of Dusty. His teams are always fundamentally sound!

That's because those Cubs teams were Hendrys teams, not his... :grin:

[Sosa21MVP]

DENVER (AP) - Cincinnati Reds starter Johnny Cueto left Sunday's game against the Colorado Rockies after three innings with soreness in his right triceps tendon.

 

The Reds said he will be examined Monday in Cincinnati.

 

The 22-year-old Cueto walked three, struck out four and didn't allow a hit before leaving the game. He threw 74 pitches and allowed one unearned run.

[Sosa21MVP]

Hasn't Cueto been throwing well in excess of 100 pitches per start this year?

[MembersOnlyJacket]

DENVER (AP) - Cincinnati Reds starter Johnny Cueto left Sunday's game against the Colorado Rockies after three innings with soreness in his right triceps tendon.

 

The Reds said he will be examined Monday in Cincinnati.

 

The 22-year-old Cueto walked three, struck out four and didn't allow a hit before leaving the game. He threw 74 pitches and allowed one unearned run.

 

He's passed 110 eight or nine times this season and for whatever it is worth, Top 20 in Abuse Points...

[rocket]

oh that dusty

[USSoccer]

I think Dusty is some sort of zombie that harvests ulnar nerves to feed.

[Soul]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

Wow, I could almost understand it if that letter was from when they hired Dusty. But it's from this month. How can they possibly still use this as a selling point?

[Tracer Bullet]

DENVER (AP) - Cincinnati Reds starter Johnny Cueto left Sunday's game against the Colorado Rockies after three innings with soreness in his right triceps tendon.

 

The Reds said he will be examined Monday in Cincinnati.

 

The 22-year-old Cueto walked three, struck out four and didn't allow a hit before leaving the game. He threw 74 pitches and allowed one unearned run.

 

I did not see this coming...

[Andy]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

Wow, I could almost understand it if that letter was from when they hired Dusty. But it's from this month. How can they possibly still use this as a selling point?

Entering today he was at .523, and if he stays with the Reds much longer he'll go under .500 for his career (105 games over entering today).

[wvcbxl]

Entering today he was at .523, and if he stays with the Reds much longer he'll go under .500 for his career (105 games over entering today).

 

Kudos to the Reds if they succeed in giving Dusty the losing managerial record he deserves. 8-)

[Jehrico]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

Wow, I could almost understand it if that letter was from when they hired Dusty. But it's from this month. How can they possibly still use this as a selling point?

Entering today he was at .523, and if he stays with the Reds much longer he'll go under .500 for his career (105 games over entering today).

Even if he stays on for the last two years of his contract and loses 100 games those years, he wouldn't fall under .500. If you lose 100, that means you won 62. Over the next two years, that's a net of -76 games, leaving him another 29 to go. He'd have to lose every game for the rest of this year, then lose 100 twice to get down to .500. He'll have to get extended by Cincy to fall under .500 with them, which is pretty unlikely.

[YearofDaCubs]

Elbow injury for Cueto.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080825&content_id=3365312&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin&partnerId=rss_cin

 

I'm so glad that POS is gone from this organization that lazy bum that he is. I never hated any Cub more than Neifi and Dusty, well maybe Estes and Marquis.

[biittner77]

Why wouldn't they just go ahead and put Cueto on the DL? Any smart organization would be trying to limit his innings at this point anyway.

[Soul]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

Wow, I could almost understand it if that letter was from when they hired Dusty. But it's from this month. How can they possibly still use this as a selling point?

Entering today he was at .523, and if he stays with the Reds much longer he'll go under .500 for his career (105 games over entering today).

Even if he stays on for the last two years of his contract and loses 100 games those years, he wouldn't fall under .500. If you lose 100, that means you won 62. Over the next two years, that's a net of -76 games, leaving him another 29 to go. He'd have to lose every game for the rest of this year, then lose 100 twice to get down to .500. He'll have to get extended by Cincy to fall under .500 with them, which is pretty unlikely.

The record he built up before coming to Chicago was absurdly out-of-wack for what he actually is as a manager.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Baker let Volquez throw 122 pitches.......in six innings on Saturday!

[nilodnayr]

lol @ dusty baker's reds

 

We added Dusty Baker, a proven winning manager.

 

:rotfl:

Wow, I could almost understand it if that letter was from when they hired Dusty. But it's from this month. How can they possibly still use this as a selling point?

Entering today he was at .523, and if he stays with the Reds much longer he'll go under .500 for his career (105 games over entering today).

Even if he stays on for the last two years of his contract and loses 100 games those years, he wouldn't fall under .500. If you lose 100, that means you won 62. Over the next two years, that's a net of -76 games, leaving him another 29 to go. He'd have to lose every game for the rest of this year, then lose 100 twice to get down to .500. He'll have to get extended by Cincy to fall under .500 with them, which is pretty unlikely.

The record he built up before coming to Chicago was absurdly out-of-wack for what he actually is as a manager.

 

People who care about managers W-L record make people who care about pitchers W-L record look like Stephen Hawking.