Lieber may retire after this season

[dlocks]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-080624-jon-lieber-chicago-cubs,1,5770763.story

 

 

:( I'd be nice to see him go out a winner! Jon is a class act. I hope he gets some good work in before the season is over.

Edited June 25, 2008 by dlocks

[jersey cubs fan]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-080624-jon-lieber-chicago-cubs,1,5770763.story

 

 

:( I'd be nice to see him go out a winner! John is a class act. I hope he gets some good work in before the season is over.

 

It's Jon. And I forgot he was still on the team.

[Soul]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

[CubColtPacer]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

He's done what he had to do. The first month he was huge for us because the starting rotation was still finding its legs. The last month and a half, the starting rotation has been great for us, and the long man hasn't been needed very much. Lieber cannot really be used as any other role out of the bullpen consistently because of his huge splits.

 

He's one of the least overall needed guys on the team, but he's a nice insurance policy back there.

[fromthestretch]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

It's not? He's hasn't been stellar, but he's able to eat up some innings out of the pen when needed (granted, it hasn't been needed a lot this season). Are there better options? Perhaps, but I don't think it's fair to say that he hasn't worked out all that great. I wouldn't want him out there with the game on the line, nor do I really want him starting, but he's been effective in his role. He definitely kept them in the game last night with a couple scoreless innings.

[jersey cubs fan]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

He's done what he had to do. The first month he was huge for us because the starting rotation was still finding its legs. The last month and a half, the starting rotation has been great for us, and the long man hasn't been needed very much. Lieber cannot really be used as any other role out of the bullpen consistently because of his huge splits.

 

He's one of the least overall needed guys on the team, but he's a nice insurance policy back there.

 

I actually thought it could have been a good idea to start the 5th with him on the mound. 4 IP 2 ER might have been as good as one could have hoped for from Marshall, and I like the idea of piggybacking with some of the fringe guys in the rotation and long relief.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

He's done what he had to do. The first month he was huge for us because the starting rotation was still finding its legs. The last month and a half, the starting rotation has been great for us, and the long man hasn't been needed very much. Lieber cannot really be used as any other role out of the bullpen consistently because of his huge splits.

 

He's one of the least overall needed guys on the team, but he's a nice insurance policy back there.

 

I actually thought it could have been a good idea to start the 5th with him on the mound. 4 IP 2 ER might have been as good as one could have hoped for from Marshall, and I like the idea of piggybacking with some of the fringe guys in the rotation and long relief.

 

The funny thing is that hes been one of our more consistant relievers. While Wuertz, Cotts, and Howry are taking turns imploding on the mound, he given us quality pretty much every time hes come in in relief.

[Schwarber Fan]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-080624-jon-lieber-chicago-cubs,1,5770763.story

 

 

:( I'd be nice to see him go out a winner! John is a class act. I hope he gets some good work in before the season is over.

 

It's Jon. And I forgot he was still on the team.

 

Didn't watch the game last night?

[jersey cubs fan]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-080624-jon-lieber-chicago-cubs,1,5770763.story

 

 

:( I'd be nice to see him go out a winner! John is a class act. I hope he gets some good work in before the season is over.

 

It's Jon. And I forgot he was still on the team.

 

Didn't watch the game last night?

 

I was making a sarastic reference to the fact that he's thrown just 5 times in June, and twice in the last 14 days.

[Post Count Padder]

I'm a big Lieber fan. I hope he gets to go out a winner.

[CoolHandLuke]

I hope he goes out a winner and it has nothing to do with how I feel about him.

[erik316wttn]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

 

He's talking about Lieber, not Marshall.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

say what?

[erik316wttn]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

say what?

 

I said, I wouldn't mind seeing Lieber as the long man out of the pen.

[Soul]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

 

He's talking about Lieber, not Marshall.

 

True. My point was, considering where we were in ST, with Lieb competing for an actual starting role, it's not working out all that well. My guess (and it's only a guess, of course) is that he's at least partially considering retirement because he doesn't really like being the long man in the pen. He's probably not all that happy, though of course he's going to do his best when called upon.

[CubColtPacer]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

say what?

 

I said, I wouldn't mind seeing Lieber as the long man out of the pen.

 

That just makes me even more confused. Lieber is the long man right now. Both Lieber and Marshall are already stretched out enough to be the long man.

 

So who are you sending to Iowa to get stretched out? And if you were talking about Lieber as the long man, why did you mention not making him a LOOGY again when that was Marshall? And why would you mention Lieber having to become the long man when he already is?

And if you were talking about Marshall, why were you worried about either his ability to be sent down (considering he just came up yesterday) or how much he's stretched out, considering he just started yesterday?

 

I'm honestly not trying to be picky. I'm just trying to understand what you meant.

[cubweiser03]

As a reliever.

35.1IP/28H/4BB/16K/1.78ERA

Verse righties he has 26IP/0BB. haha

He's been really solid, maybe come september when the rosters expand he will be used more in the short role and in the playoffs long men arent needed as much because you dont have a five man rotation (the 5th man can be the long man) as well as the days off and he might be very useful then in the late innings too. I like having Lieber on the team.

[jersey cubs fan]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

say what?

 

I said, I wouldn't mind seeing Lieber as the long man out of the pen.

 

That just makes me even more confused. Lieber is the long man right now. Both Lieber and Marshall are already stretched out enough to be the long man.

 

So who are you sending to Iowa to get stretched out? And if you were talking about Lieber as the long man, why did you mention not making him a LOOGY again when that was Marshall? And why would you mention Lieber having to become the long man when he already is?

And if you were talking about Marshall, why were you worried about either his ability to be sent down (considering he just came up yesterday) or how much he's stretched out, considering he just started yesterday?

 

I'm honestly not trying to be picky. I'm just trying to understand what you meant.

 

Yeah, what he said.

[Soul]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

If they'd send him to Iowa (if they can) to stretch him out, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him as the long man out of the pen, provided the keep him as the long man this time and not as a LOOGY.

say what?

 

I said, I wouldn't mind seeing Lieber as the long man out of the pen.

 

That just makes me even more confused. Lieber is the long man right now. Both Lieber and Marshall are already stretched out enough to be the long man.

 

So who are you sending to Iowa to get stretched out? And if you were talking about Lieber as the long man, why did you mention not making him a LOOGY again when that was Marshall? And why would you mention Lieber having to become the long man when he already is?

And if you were talking about Marshall, why were you worried about either his ability to be sent down (considering he just came up yesterday) or how much he's stretched out, considering he just started yesterday?

 

I'm honestly not trying to be picky. I'm just trying to understand what you meant.

 

Yeah, what he said.

 

No. Lieber needs to be retrained in Iowa to throw lefty so he can be the LOOGY.

 

See, I've got this all figured out.

[Lefty]

He's kind of been dead weight on the roster. I'll always like him for what he did for us in his prime, but it's really not working out all that great now.

 

He's done what he had to do. The first month he was huge for us because the starting rotation was still finding its legs. The last month and a half, the starting rotation has been great for us, and the long man hasn't been needed very much. Lieber cannot really be used as any other role out of the bullpen consistently because of his huge splits.

 

He's one of the least overall needed guys on the team, but he's a nice insurance policy back there.

 

I actually thought it could have been a good idea to start the 5th with him on the mound. 4 IP 2 ER might have been as good as one could have hoped for from Marshall, and I like the idea of piggybacking with some of the fringe guys in the rotation and long relief.

 

I think piggybacking is a good idea in general with these two. Lieber starts, and I guess you can't have a repeat of that game in Cinci. Then you bring in Marshall. Opposing managers have to leave the lefties in so they're available against Marmol and Wood late. Seems there is some advantage there.