I know that this is my the second "panic about Geo" thread

[inari]

I know he's a rookie. I know he's going to struggle at times. And I know he's not a .900+ OPS player in all likelyhood. But jeeze, when I posted this about a month ago people weren't worried. He's still been pretty bad since then. I love Geo as much as everyone else here, which is why I'm so concerned. Could this finger injury be hampering him? If not, what's going on? And what can we reasonably expect from here on out?

 

I predicted a .275/.340/.480 line at the beginning of the season and I think that is looking fairly realistic.

[rawaction]

If you loved Geo as much as everyone else, then you wouldn't be questioning him. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

naw, yeah he has struggled and it is starting to get worrisome, but not to the point of panic.

[Amazing_Grace]

Rookies are going to struggle and they're going to go through hot and cold streaks. He's still drawing walks and having a good approach at the plate. He's also the 6 or 7 hitter in our lineup so we don't really need him to be Albert Pujols. He'll get hot again. These are the kinds of things that happen to rookie players. If he was looking awful in his at-bats I'd be a lot more worried, but his approach and demeanor haven't really changed. He's just slumping.

[RynoRules]

He has hit the ball hard several times over the last few days, but they just haven't fallen for him. I would bet my bottom dollar that Perry has his ear and is reminding him of this.

 

He'll be fine.

[UMFan83]

He sometimes looks like he's completely guessing out there, and guessing wrong. I don't remember nearly as many swing and misses in April as I've seen the last month or so. In April everyone probably projected him as a .300/30/100 guy....now we just have to lower his expectations a bit. Maybe .265/20/80 with a .360 OBP and a .480 slg. which is great for a plus defensive catcher.

[Jon]

His LD% has continued to drop over the last few weeks, as has his BABIP. His biggest issue right now, though, is his drop in walks, which I'm not really concerned about.

[Soul]

Someone should ask Stone if Geo is still on roids now that he's not on a hot streak anymore.

 

I mean, since he's the authority and everything.

[Peoriaman]

He is not as good as he started off this year. I suspect he is a .250 hitter with some power and a pretty good catcher.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Soto               AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA   IsoD   RBI%
03/31 - 04/17      50    5   14    4    1    2   12    7   11  0.280  0.362  0.520  0.882  0.324  3.83  0.082  0.256
04/18 - 05/03      49    9   19    7    0    3   11   10   14  0.388  0.492  0.714  1.206  0.500  3.88  0.104  0.222
05/04 - 05/19      46    7   13    3    0    4   10   10   13  0.283  0.411  0.609  1.019  0.310  3.98  0.128  0.194
05/20 - 06/04      49    2   10    5    0    1    6    3   15  0.204  0.241  0.367  0.608  0.273  4.06  0.037  0.152
06/05 - 06/22      54    3   12    1    0    2    4    4   12  0.222  0.276  0.352  0.628  0.250  3.91  0.054  0.065

season totals     248   26   68   20    1   12   43   34   65  0.274  0.358  0.508  0.866  0.327  3.93  0.084  0.182

[Sammy Sofa]

I predicted a .275/.340/.480 line at the beginning of the season and I think that is looking fairly realistic.

 

So there's no need to panic? That line is fantastic for a catcher, especially one who also plays great defense.

Edited June 23, 2008 by Sammy Sofa

[C.C.]

Geo is the least of my worries. Marmol and Zambrano are this teams main concerns right now.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I predicted a .275/.340/.480 line at the beginning of the season and I think that is looking fairly realistic.

 

So there's no need to panic? That line is fantastic for a catcher, especially one who aso plays great defense.

and happens to be a rookie

[twothousandfive]

I predicted a .275/.340/.480 line at the beginning of the season and I think that is looking fairly realistic.

 

So there's no need to panic? That line is fantastic for a catcher, especially one who also plays great defense.

 

 

An OBP of .320 with an SLG of .460 for the second half gets him to roughly that line for the full year. I think it's fair to suggest that an OPS below .800 for an extended period (more than just a slump) is a disappointment, based on expectations coming into the season. Acceptable, certainly, given his defense, the rest of the league and the Cubs recent history. Nonetheless, disappointing -- but it isn't at all uncommon for a rookie to tire as the year goes on.

 

I'm still confident on a .800+ OPS for the next several years.

[David]

He is not as good as he started off this year. I suspect he is a .250 hitter with some power and a pretty good catcher.

 

 

He's not a .250 hitter and even if he were, this label would be completely selling one of his major offensive strengths, his ability to draw walks, short.

 

Why do people still freaking cite batting average so damn much??

[islandcub]

Geovany Soto.

[Amazing_Grace]

He is not as good as he started off this year. I suspect he is a .250 hitter with some power and a pretty good catcher.

 

 

He's not a .250 hitter and even if he were, this label would be completely selling one of his major offensive strengths, his ability to draw walks, short.

 

Why do people still freaking cite batting average so damn much??

 

No idea. SLG tells you more about how strong a hitter a guy is and OBP tells you how good he is at not making outs. There are a whole host of peripheral stats like LD%, BB/K, etc. that tell you more about a hitter than BA.

[Mizzou]

I agree with whoever said he looks like he's guessing a lot of times. He also looks to be swinging for the fences more times than not.

 

I think his recent month long slump has been more a result of the rest of the league adjusting and Geo not, rather than anything else.