The Baseball gods clearly want Instant Replay

[Schwarber Fan]

Prince Fielder providing another example tonight, you can watch the video here: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_06_14_minmlb_milmlb_1&mode=gameday

 

You've also got the Delgado HR controversy, the ARod thing, Soto's inside the parker, Luis Rivas' pipe HR, DeRosa's "HR that wasn't" and many more examples this year.

 

Supposedly, they are implementing it in August to some extent, but it's crazy how many close calls there have been this year.

[Electron Blue]

wow. and I didn't notice until afterwards the final score of the game. Not a very happy night for Brewers fans!

[Balsa]

I can't beleive how many instances we've had of this lately.

 

I mean, I can count on one hand how many instances I've seen in the four years previous.

[Outshined_One]

There's something inherently amusing about watching a really fat guy try to run as fast as he can. The jiggling is almost hypnotic.

[Electron Blue]

There's something inherently amusing about watching a really fat guy try to run as fast as he can. The jiggling is almost hypnotic.

 

my favorite sports headline from The Onion:

 

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[Clem Fandango]

You can add Ryan Ludwick's game ending diving catch this afternoon to the list.

 

Ball clearly hit the ground first. Umps called it out. Game over.

[CubbieBum]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

[bukie]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

[Soul]

Good. I'm glad the tide of ump miscalls is finally bringing about replay. I only wish it would have been in place sooner.

 

I was hoping for replay by the all star break. I'll take August though. As long as it is in place before the playoffs.

[brinoch]

I really don't like most of the umpires, particularly the confrontational clowns. Replay would be a great addition to baseball. Heck, they could replay any play in less than a minute from a booth and transmit the correct call before most of those umpire conferences break up in any case. Getting the call right is more important than the egos of umpires and the "sanctity of the game."

[chuckywang]

I think Fielder's "triple" is inconclusive even with replay.

[CubbieBum]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

[davearm2]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

Well then that announcer is wrong.

 

At every ballpark, the yellow line on the wall denotes the point the ball has to clear to be a home run.

 

Hitting all yellow and coming back into play = no HR.

[chuckywang]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

Well then that announcer is wrong.

 

At every ballpark, the yellow line on the wall denotes the point the ball has to clear to be a home run.

 

Hitting all yellow and coming back into play = no HR.

 

Seriously, it takes two seconds to look up the Miller Park ground rules:

 

OUTFIELD AREA

 

Batted ball in flight striking yellow portion of pad in left field corner: Home Run.

Batted ball in flight striking blue portion of pad in right field corner: Foul.

Fair bounding ball striking yellow portion of pad: Two Bases.

Fair bounding ball striking blue portion of pad: In Play.

[davearm2]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

Well then that announcer is wrong.

 

At every ballpark, the yellow line on the wall denotes the point the ball has to clear to be a home run.

 

Hitting all yellow and coming back into play = no HR.

 

Seriously, it takes two seconds to look up the Miller Park ground rules:

 

OUTFIELD AREA

 

Batted ball in flight striking yellow portion of pad in left field corner: Home Run.

Batted ball in flight striking blue portion of pad in right field corner: Foul.

Fair bounding ball striking yellow portion of pad: Two Bases.

Fair bounding ball striking blue portion of pad: In Play.

The play being discussed here happened about 200 ft from the left field corner.

 

http://www.ballparkdigest.com/visits/miller_park_2.htm

Scroll down from the link above, and you'll see a picture of the area being described in the ground rules (5th pic on the page). It's a vertical pad that runs the first few feet above the wall, in front of the foul pole.

 

Earlier on that same page is a shot of the RF wall. You've gotta hit the ball completely over those yellow pads for a HR, just like in all ballparks.

[mul21]

I think it was Kurkjian on BB Tonight when the play happened and he said he looked up the ground rules and they say the ball has to go over the yellow line to be a home run. The ball ended up back in play so there's no way it went over the line/pad. Clearly not a home run and a good ruling by the umps.

[chuckywang]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

Well then that announcer is wrong.

 

At every ballpark, the yellow line on the wall denotes the point the ball has to clear to be a home run.

 

Hitting all yellow and coming back into play = no HR.

 

Seriously, it takes two seconds to look up the Miller Park ground rules:

 

OUTFIELD AREA

 

Batted ball in flight striking yellow portion of pad in left field corner: Home Run.

Batted ball in flight striking blue portion of pad in right field corner: Foul.

Fair bounding ball striking yellow portion of pad: Two Bases.

Fair bounding ball striking blue portion of pad: In Play.

The play being discussed here happened about 200 ft from the left field corner.

 

http://www.ballparkdigest.com/visits/miller_park_2.htm

Scroll down from the link above, and you'll see a picture of the area being described in the ground rules (5th pic on the page). It's a vertical pad that runs the first few feet above the wall, in front of the foul pole.

 

Earlier on that same page is a shot of the RF wall. You've gotta hit the ball completely over those yellow pads for a HR, just like in all ballparks.

 

But at least there can be cases where a ball that hits the yellow line and comes back in play is a HR.

[davearm2]

This is probably the worst one to me when you think about it. All the other blown ones its just whether you could see it or not this one has physics on its side. The ball can't hit the wall and bounce UP unless it hit on top of the wall thus it had to be a homerun.

 

That's not even the issue. A ball off the top of the wall is NOT a home run either way. The issue was whether or not it hit the ivy behind the wall and then bounced off the top of the wall.

 

 

umm the announcer said that at this park if the ball hits all yellow its a homerun thus if it hits the top of the wall it IS a homerun. If it if hits the ivy behind the wall wouldn't that be a homerun since it went behind (or over) the wall.

Well then that announcer is wrong.

 

At every ballpark, the yellow line on the wall denotes the point the ball has to clear to be a home run.

 

Hitting all yellow and coming back into play = no HR.

 

Seriously, it takes two seconds to look up the Miller Park ground rules:

 

OUTFIELD AREA

 

Batted ball in flight striking yellow portion of pad in left field corner: Home Run.

Batted ball in flight striking blue portion of pad in right field corner: Foul.

Fair bounding ball striking yellow portion of pad: Two Bases.

Fair bounding ball striking blue portion of pad: In Play.

The play being discussed here happened about 200 ft from the left field corner.

 

http://www.ballparkdigest.com/visits/miller_park_2.htm

Scroll down from the link above, and you'll see a picture of the area being described in the ground rules (5th pic on the page). It's a vertical pad that runs the first few feet above the wall, in front of the foul pole.

 

Earlier on that same page is a shot of the RF wall. You've gotta hit the ball completely over those yellow pads for a HR, just like in all ballparks.

 

But at least there can be cases where a ball that hits the yellow line and comes back in play is a HR.

The only time this is even an issue is in ballparks where there are vertical yellow lines, or some other quirky characteristic exists.

 

That's where you need a groundrule to clarify.

 

The standard horizontal yellow, the rule is the same everyplace... gotta clear completely for a HR.

 

I'm certain you'll correct me if I'm wrong here.

[J.R.]

Tonight is the tipping point for comprehensive replay. Selig cannot deny it any longer.

[erik316wttn]

Tonight is the tipping point for comprehensive replay. Selig cannot deny it any longer.

 

But yet he will.

 

I bet all we get is a brief, 4-sentence statement that doesn't say much of anything, and then nothing else from the Commissioner's Office.

[RedFlash]

Tonight is the tipping point for comprehensive replay. Selig cannot deny it any longer.

 

My tipping points on comprehensive replay were two plays: 1: Cubs/Rockies series in which the Rockies second baseman got a "neighborhood call" even though he wasn't even in the zip code. 2: A's/Twins series in which a Twins player was call out trying to score from third on a wild pitch, only to see replay clearly confirm the Twins player got underneath the tag. Everything after those plays are just cherries on top of a sundae for me.

[Sammys Boombox]

I would be more angry with this call if it causes instant replay than I am with it costing Galarraga a perfect game.

[erik316wttn]

I would be more angry with this call if it causes instant replay than I am with it costing Galarraga a perfect game.

 

Seriously?

 

How can you be against a system that can ensure the correct call being made? Don't give me this "it will lengthen the game" bullcrap either. I'm sure they could work out a system to where it could be used only X number of times per game.

 

Just because things have always been one way doesn't mean things always have to remain that way.

[Fred Hornkohl]

We didn't need to bump a 2 year old thread to expand the bitchfest about the bad call. Let's keep it all to one thread.

[NCCubFan]

Tonight is the tipping point for comprehensive replay. Selig cannot deny it any longer.

Absolutely. This call was clearly, factually wrong; no judgment involved whatsoever. Completely unforgivable.