Baseball History Thread

OleMissCub · January 20, 2009

BB'ing the bases full to get to the best HR hitter in baseball history would definitely tick some fans off as well.

Ehh, I'd still say Ruth is the greatest HR hitter ever. I know Gibson is supposed to have hit 800 HR or something like that, but a great many of those include barnstorming games against small city teams, exhibition teams, foreign teams that couldn't play too well, etc.

It really, REALLY sucks that we don't have very accurate stats for Negro Leaguers.

OleMissCub · January 24, 2009

Two examples of Jackie Robinson's famous temper:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/jackkick.jpg

Throwing his bat into the stands after striking out...

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/jackbat.jpg

Clem Fandango · January 25, 2009

Wow, didn't realize that on occasion he was a a total douche

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

Wow, didn't realize that on occasion he was a a total douche

He certainly wasn't an angelic personality. He was a huge competitor and was pretty rough around the edges a lot of times. In the YouTube video I made of Robinson, you see a clip of him running over the Yankees Billy Martin during a bunt attempt in the 55 World Series. Then Phil Rizzuto runs over and tries to fight him.

It's at 1:11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnDp45PfOC0

Derwood · January 25, 2009

OMC, did you see the MLB Network special on the Negro Leagues last night?

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

OMC, did you see the MLB Network special on the Negro Leagues last night?

DVR'd it. Reallly looking forward to watching it.

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

The only full time second basemen with higher WARP3's than Lou Whitaker (129.9) and Bobby Grich (123.9):

Eddie Collins - 180.6

Joe Morgan - 165.3

Nap Lajoie - 163.8

Rogers Hornsby - 162.8

Roberto Alomar - 132.6

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

Only full time shortstops with higher WARP3's than Alan Trammell (127.1)

Honus Wagner - 203.0

Ozzie Smith - 132.5

Arky Vaughan - 131.5

Luke Appling - 127.9

Clem Fandango · January 25, 2009

I'm sure it's been asked before somewhere on this board/thread, but where do you get all your footage from?

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

I'm sure it's been asked before somewhere on this board/thread, but where do you get all your footage from?

Mostly ripped off my Ken Burns documentary DVD's. Unfortunately Burns is such a New England sycophant so most of his series focuses on the New York and Boston teams. This sucks for me and my purposes to make short highlight clips of great players because I might have three minutes of Mel Ott footage (which is fine with me) from the series but just twenty five seconds of Rogers Hornsby footage. Or five minutes of Yogi Berra clips but just five seconds of Frank Robinson or Ernie Banks. I did get some positive benefits from those uber-short clips of some of the legends, in that I was able to make some nifty gif files of them swinging. Those files are way back in this thread, so I figure I might repost them.

OleMissCub · January 25, 2009

Gif files of some legends:

some of my favs:

Babe Ruth:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/ruthswinging.gif

Lou Gehrig:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/gehrig-1.gif

Satchel Paige:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/882/satchgif4zz5.gif

Bob Feller:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7200/fellergifjb3.gif

Eiji Sawamura:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/552/eijigh7.gif

Mickey Mantle (lefty)

Mickey Mantle (righty)

Ron "PUT HIM IN THE HOF!" Santo

Cy Young (as an old man)

Ty Cobb & Honus Wagner, 1909 World Series

Babe Ruth & Ty Cobb

and the best....Cobb tossing a ball to the 80 year old Thomas Edison (never swung a bat before) only to have a comebacker hit at him.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbedison2.gif

OleMissCub · February 26, 2009

Beautiful panoramic shot of opening day, 1903, Brooklyn Superbas at New York Giants. Beware the size is large.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1540/openingdaynyapril281903.jpg

manbearcub · February 26, 2009

what were the stadium capacities in those days? that looks like 10,000 range.

manbearcub · February 26, 2009

by the way OMC, it looks like your photobucket account is having some problems.

OleMissCub · February 26, 2009

by the way OMC, it looks like your photobucket account is having some problems.

Yeah, I know...it's stupid. I think I'm going to have to "go pro" and upgrade photobucket.

OleMissCub · February 26, 2009

what were the stadium capacities in those days? that looks like 10,000 range.

That park was known as Polo Grounds III. It held about 15,000 and burnt down "mysteriously" in 1911.

OleMissCub · March 1, 2009

Got my photobucket crap worked out, so all my links should be working again.

OleMissCub · March 6, 2009

be funny to see two megastars today put their fists up fisticuffs style like this:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BabeTyconfront.jpg

March 7, 2009

This could also go in the book thread in social, but I have this one open right now...

Rob Neyer's Big Book of Baseball Legends is pretty interesting. While I haven't heard of a majority of these stories, it's interesting to hear them and then have him go through and check if they're true. I can't even imagine how many days worth of time he spent looking at microfilm to check some of these stories.

OleMissCub · March 7, 2009

This could also go in the book thread in social, but I have this one open right now...

Rob Neyer's Big Book of Baseball Legends is pretty interesting. While I haven't heard of a majority of these stories, it's interesting to hear them and then have him go through and check if they're true. I can't even imagine how many days worth of time he spent looking at microfilm to check some of these stories.

Sounds like heaven actually.

OleMissCub · March 9, 2009

Got this from another website. Freaking Albert Pujols...amazing. Cool that Vlad is in the top 20 as well.

MLB Players by OPS+ to age of 25:

  Cnt Player            OPS+   BA   OBP   SLG    PA  From  To
+----+-----------------+----+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+
   1 Ty Cobb            180  .366  .414  .513  4343 1905 1912 
   2 Joe Jackson        177  .365  .434  .527  3086 1908 1915 
   3 Mickey Mantle      174  .316  .427  .574  4116 1951 1957 
   4 Jimmie Foxx        171  .339  .435  .638  3938 1925 1933 
   5 Albert Pujols      167  .332  .416  .621  3428 2001 2005 
   6 Tris Speaker       166  .340  .412  .492  3231 1907 1913 
   7 Rogers Hornsby     165  .337  .398  .499  3577 1915 1921 
   8 Joe DiMaggio       156  .343  .402  .623  3116 1936 1940 
   9 Eddie Mathews      155  .281  .388  .556  3808 1952 1957 
  10 Mel Ott            153  .316  .412  .554  4645 1926 1934 
  11 Hank Aaron         151  .323  .372  .559  3866 1954 1959 
  12 Mike Tiernan       150  .303  .386  .464  3283 1887 1892 
  13 Joe Medwick        149  .342  .374  .564  3405 1932 1937 
  14 Ken Griffey        147  .302  .379  .536  3920 1989 1995 
  15 Arky Vaughan       147  .334  .424  .491  3712 1932 1937 
  16 Frank Robinson     146  .302  .384  .561  3792 1956 1961 
  17 Joe Kelley         146  .346  .441  .511  3344 1891 1897 
  18 Sherry Magee       145  .296  .367  .431  4091 1904 1910 
  19 Vladimir Guerrero  144  .319  .378  .587  3044 1996 2001 
  20 Alex Rodriguez     141  .311  .378  .571  4247 1994 2001 
  21 Sam Crawford       141  .303  .352  .449  3575 1899 1905 
  22 Miguel Cabrera     140  .309  .381  .541  3756 2003 2008 
  23 Orlando Cepeda     140  .310  .352  .537  3847 1958 1963 
  24 David Wright       139  .309  .389  .533  3047 2004 2008 
  25 Eddie Murray       136  .291  .354  .493  3148 1977 1981 
  26 Ross Youngs        136  .326  .399  .442  3028 1917 1922 
  27 Goose Goslin       134  .330  .393  .503  3107 1921 1926 
  28 Larry Doyle        134  .303  .371  .433  3235 1907 1912 
  29 Barry Bonds        133  .265  .358  .479  3009 1986 1990 
  30 Hal Trosky         133  .314  .372  .559  3379 1933 1938 
  31 Cesar Cedeno       132  .294  .351  .468  4126 1970 1976 
  32 Joe Torre          132  .300  .361  .478  3101 1960 1966 
  33 Rickey Henderson   131  .291  .400  .408  3488 1979 1984 
  34 Del Ennis          131  .298  .355  .501  3133 1946 1950 
  35 Greg Luzinski      130  .290  .358  .477  3054 1970 1976

Clem Fandango · March 9, 2009

I'm assuming there is a minimum PA requirement of 3,000 to be on that list? Otherwise I'm pretty sure Frank Thomas would be tied for 2nd on that list. His first 4 years in the majors (Ages 22-25)he had a combined OPS+ of 177

OleMissCub · March 11, 2009

Check out this pitching duel. This is something you will NEVER see again.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=196307020SFN

July 2nd, 1963. Braves v. Giants

Spahn: 15.1 IP, 9 Hits, 1 ER, 2 K

Marichal: 16.0 IP, 8 Hits, 0 ER, 10 K

wekse · March 11, 2009

http://www.nomaas.org/images/pedroia_midget.jpg

NCCubFan · March 12, 2009

Check out this pitching duel. This is something you will NEVER see again.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=196307020SFN

July 2nd, 1963. Braves v. Giants

Spahn: 15.1 IP, 9 Hits, 1 ER, 2 K

Marichal: 16.0 IP, 8 Hits, 0 ER, 10 K

The only way we'd see something like that happen now would be if Dusty were managing both teams.

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