How are the White Sox so soap dropping unstopable?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Seriouly, they have 5 pitchers that would be lucky to be 3-5 starters on most teams and turned into the 1990s Braves rotation

 

They take a cast off from the D-Backs and turn him into an MVP candidate

 

Jermaine Dye and AJ Pierzynski wont go away

 

and they're doing this with 0 production from Konerko and Thome who are the only players on that team that most of America has ever heard of

 

Somethings gotta give.

 

Drop the damn soap damn you.

[JimSorgi]

The Cubs have a better record than them, and yet, you always complain about the Cubs... :-k

[Sammy Sofa]

Baseball is rather bonkers so far this year in terms of the teams leading the divisions.

 

While I prefer the White Sox losing, I wouldn't mind the off chance the Cubs and the Sawx meeting in October.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The Cubs have a better record than them, and yet, you always complain about the Cubs... :-k

 

Read the last stupid game thread, and if you read half the stupid posts, the season officially ended last night.

 

The White Sox have won 8 straight, including a sweep of the Indians domination of the Angels. God I hate Hawk Harrelson.

Edited May 23, 2008 by Little Slide Rooter

[JimSorgi]

Do you kiss your mother with that foul mouth?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Is that more to your liking.

 

Still, I find it absolutely perplexing that they are the hottest team in baseball. It wouldnt even bother me if we didnt drop 2 in a row, and surely they'll cool off eventually. I just hope its before we face them.

[sneakypower]

Seriouly, they have 5 pitchers that would be lucky to be 3-5 starters on most teams and turned into the 1990s Braves rotation

 

They take a cast off from the D-Backs and turn him into an MVP candidate

 

Jermaine Dye and AJ Pierzynski wont go away

 

and they're doing this with 0 production from Konerko and Thome who are the only players on that team that most of America has ever heard of

 

Somethings gotta give.

 

Drop the damn soap damn you.

yeah its not like Floyd, Danks, Quentin were ever highly regarded prospects or anything

[Little Slide Rooter]

Seriouly, they have 5 pitchers that would be lucky to be 3-5 starters on most teams and turned into the 1990s Braves rotation

 

They take a cast off from the D-Backs and turn him into an MVP candidate

 

Jermaine Dye and AJ Pierzynski wont go away

 

and they're doing this with 0 production from Konerko and Thome who are the only players on that team that most of America has ever heard of

 

Somethings gotta give.

 

Drop the damn soap damn you.

yeah its not like Floyd, Danks, Quentin were ever highly regarded prospects or anything

 

Quentin was, but was pretty much left for dead by the D-Backs. The White Sox just got lucky with him. Maybe Kenny Wiliiams just isnt as crazy as people think.

[Soul]

Quentin has to cool down, right.

 

I mean, he's not really this good.

 

 

Right?

[sneakypower]

.312/.427/.526 career performance in the minors. you grow into a little power with those hitting skills and you've got an allstar.

[Soul]

I guess great move by KW then. That sucks. I really don't actively wish ill on the Sox like some do, but it doesn't bother me to see them lose. Guess they're officially rejuvenated. How odd that both the Tigers & Indians are lame at the same time. Looks like that division is suddenly and unexpectedly ripe for the picking.

[chuckywang]

Quentin has to cool down, right.

 

I mean, he's not really this good.

 

 

Right?

 

Sadly, I believe he is. You can usually tell the difference between a young player just having a hot start and a young player who's the real deal. He looks to be the real deal.

[forbez18]

I am a huge Cubs fan, but you have to like seeing good baseball being played in Chicago all around. It is very rare that both are leading their divisions, and just imagine the city if both teams were just in the playoffs at the same time.

 

I think it is good friendly competition that might make each team want it just a bit more.

[UMFan83]

I can't believe people are surprised by Quinten. When the move was made I thought it was one of the best moves in the offseason.

 

When Buehrle is on, him and Vazquez is more solid than Zambrano/Lilly. Then looking at the rest of their rotation Danks (one of the best pitching prospects in baseball 2 years ago) and Floyd are really solid as well, at this point also better than Dempster/Marquis.

 

The Sox are good. Probably not this good, but this isn't totally stunning to me at all, especially when you look at how under performing their offense was last year, combined with their off season acquisitions.

[RationalSoxFan]

Seriouly, they have 5 pitchers that would be lucky to be 3-5 starters on most teams and turned into the 1990s Braves rotation

Seriously, on what planet is Javy Vazquez "lucky" to be a 3-5 starter on most teams? Buehrle is an anomaly in that he probably should be a 3-5 starter, but he has skills that allow him to be an abover average innings eater. Contreras and Danks have been solid this season. Floyd is an anomaly and should be getting pounded -- his peripherals are not backing up his performance.

They take a cast off from the D-Backs and turn him into an MVP candidate

Lots of people saw it coming.

Jermaine Dye and AJ Pierzynski wont go away

AJP will come back down. Dye, on the other hand, was banged up in the first half of last season but fantastic after the ASB. He's an above average player.

and they're doing this with 0 production from Konerko and Thome who are the only players on that team that most of America has ever heard of

I think most baseball fans have heard of every player in their starting lineup. Most of America probably hasn't heard of any of them though.

 

Edit: Not here to troll -- just thought I'd shed some light on the situation. I'm happy to see you guys have played so well.

[jersey cubs fan]

Cubs and Sox winning with Mets and Yankees losing is fine by me.

[Sammy Sofa]

Seriously, on what planet is Javy Vazquez "lucky" to be a 3-5 starter on most teams?

 

LLF isn't known for his rational, well-reasoned conclusions around here.

[moochpuppy]

I will be the first to admit that the Sox have been extremely lucky that the pitching has come around this season at the same time the hitting has been below average. Danks and Floyd were the wildcards and they have come up huge along with Contreras.

 

Now, if we can get Swisher, Konerko and Thome going....look out! :yahoo:

[jersey cubs fan]

When Buehrle is on, him and Vazquez is more solid than Zambrano/Lilly.

 

Wait a minute. When Buerhle is on? It's easy to say that at his best a guy is better than somebody else is at their non-best. But come on here, Buerhle/Vazquez are not more solid than Zambrano/Lilly. Zambrano has been the most consistently good pitcher of that group, while the rest of the three have had their ups and downs.

[UMFan83]

When Buehrle is on, him and Vazquez is more solid than Zambrano/Lilly.

 

Wait a minute. When Buerhle is on? It's easy to say that at his best a guy is better than somebody else is at their non-best. But come on here, Buerhle/Vazquez are not more solid than Zambrano/Lilly. Zambrano has been the most consistently good pitcher of that group, while the rest of the three have had their ups and downs.

 

I think they are. I say when Buehrle is on because he tends to be inconsistent, but not on a start to start basis, but a half season to half season sort of basis (don't have the stats handy, but this is what I've noticed). I think bar none Vazquez is better than Lilly. So together, if Buehrle is throwing well, I would take them over Z and Lilly. You are right though, Zambrano is easily the most talented off the 4 pitches.

[BaseballBob]

One fact about Danks that does not get mentioned much is that he had a baseball mentor growing up. A family friend in Texas who mentored him through Little League, high school, college, etc.

 

Who was this? Nolan Ryan. Yes. That Nolan Ryan.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Vazquez and Lilly were pretty much the same pitcher last year, how can you say one was "bar none" better than the other?

 

As far as Buehrle goes, he's had one above average "half season" (first half of '07) since 2005, that's looking more and more like an aberration with his subpar '06, second half '07, and now this year.

[SouthSideRyan]

Quentin's a good player, he's not this good. He's outhitting what he did in the minors while playing in hitter-friendly parks.

[jersey cubs fan]

One fact about Danks that does not get mentioned much is that he had a baseball mentor growing up. A family friend in Texas who mentored him through Little League, high school, college, etc.

 

Who was this? Nolan Ryan. Yes. That Nolan Ryan.

 

And what an important fact that is!

[nilodnayr]

Vazquez and Lilly were pretty much the same pitcher last year, how can you say one was "bar none" better than the other?

 

 

Vazquez did out-FIP Lilly by .36 and was pitching in the harder league, so give him about another half of a run. I'm sure if you adjusted for parks, that difference would grow even more. Not to mention last year was Lillys best in his carrer (and better than his previous 3 years by a significant margin), whereas Vazquez's was in line with his career.