Re: 04/27 Cubs (Lilly) @ Nationals (Lannan) 12:35pm CDT, WGN

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

D Lee walked

Ramirez grounded into a FC, 1-6, D Lee out at second

Fukudome doubled to left field , Ramirez to third

DeRosa grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3 , runners holding

Cedeno grounded out to second, 4-3

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 2 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            0 0 0 0 0 0                    0  3  0
Washington      0 2 0 0 0                      2  3  1

 

Home runs:

CUBS: none

Washington: none

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Lilly         5.0  3  2  2  1  6  0  82

 

Washington     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Lannan        6.0  3  0  0  4  2  0  95

[Tracer Bullet]

i can only imagine how bad the outcry is going to be now

It's going to get ugly, thats for sure. Luckily Ronny is trying his best to force Lou's hand. Next weekend I had better see a lineup like this Lou:

 

Soriano

Cedeno

Lee

ARam

Fukudome

Soto

DeResoa

Pie

i hate it too that his .337/.406/.465 line has impeded this offense

 

in comparison to Ronny's .375/.432/.575, yeah, it has a little.

what an incredibly asinine reason to bash someone. they've been playing concurrently much of the time but that probably doesnt matter for your ridiculous argument.

 

Mostly his offensive play hasn't hurt us. But his 6/11 in SB attempts is really, really bad. And he had a crucial error that may have (probably did?) cost us a game Thursday.

[Flames24Rulz]

Yep. Nice job offense.

[UMFan83]

6 base runners 0 runs

 

4 of the base runners have been in scoring position with less and 2 outs.

[Outshined_One]

Just gotta tip the cap sometimes, dude.

 

Fixed for the memories of 2006 this game is giving me.

[sneakypower]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

GIDP?

Your are right. Bloops into a double play. Way better.

so he's at fault for another guys baserunning

 

wow tough crowd

[ctcf]

Slightly on the bright side: Lannan is probably done with 95 pitches.

[illiniguy]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

GIDP?

Your are right. Bloops into a double play. Way better.

so he's at fault for another guys baserunning

 

wow tough crowd

He is at fault for not being a very good baseball player.

Edited April 27, 2008 by illiniguy

[Tracer Bullet]

That low strike is killing us.

 

Yay we won't score here either!

 

Is it just that Gameday sucks, or was the 2nd pitch to Ronny (called strike) in the exact same place as the 1st one (ball)?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Does anyone have tally on the amount of runners in scoring position these scroats have stranded the past 4 games? My GOD they're looking awful lately

[UMFan83]

I have a feeling the Nats tack on an insurance run here.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Guzman singled to left field

[weis21]

i can only imagine how bad the outcry is going to be now

It's going to get ugly, thats for sure. Luckily Ronny is trying his best to force Lou's hand. Next weekend I had better see a lineup like this Lou:

 

Soriano

Cedeno

Lee

ARam

Fukudome

Soto

DeResoa

Pie

i hate it too that his .337/.406/.465 line has impeded this offense

 

in comparison to Ronny's .375/.432/.575, yeah, it has a little.

what an incredibly asinine reason to bash someone. they've been playing concurrently much of the time but that probably doesnt matter for your ridiculous argument.

 

So because they are both playing in a game and not in substitution of one another I can't compare statistics? I didn't realize comparing batting statistics is a "ridiculous argument". Your right man, Theriot is a much better ballplayer than Cedeno is or ever will be.

[UMFan83]

That low strike is killing us.

 

Yay we won't score here either!

 

Is it just that Gameday sucks, or was the 2nd pitch to Ronny (called strike) in the exact same place as the 1st one (ball)?

 

It was.

[UMFan83]

i can only imagine how bad the outcry is going to be now

It's going to get ugly, thats for sure. Luckily Ronny is trying his best to force Lou's hand. Next weekend I had better see a lineup like this Lou:

 

Soriano

Cedeno

Lee

ARam

Fukudome

Soto

DeResoa

Pie

i hate it too that his .337/.406/.465 line has impeded this offense

 

in comparison to Ronny's .375/.432/.575, yeah, it has a little.

what an incredibly asinine reason to bash someone. they've been playing concurrently much of the time but that probably doesnt matter for your ridiculous argument.

 

So because they are both playing in a game and not in substitution of one another I can't compare statistics? I didn't realize comparing batting statistics is a "ridiculous argument". Your right man, Theriot is a much better ballplayer than Cedeno is or ever will be.

 

Theriot's line is obviously good. Take out his 2 CS, and his 2-3 DPs he's hit into out of his OBP and its not looking too good.

 

(edit: I realize you can't do that, but my point is the quality of his numbers are not as great as it seems.)

Edited April 27, 2008 by UMFan83

[sneakypower]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

Friday: CS twice, including once at 3B where afterwards the circumstances led to the Cubs hitting a sac fly.

Today: GIDP with the bases loaded in a situation to tie the game.

He is killing us. Even when he is hitting at a passable level he is no more than a replacement level player. On top of that he doesn't even "play the game the right way" He just isn't very good.

where are these 900 opsing replacement level shortstops and where can 25 teams in need of one find them?

But

Right, one would be foolish to assume he won't keep producing at that level and even when he stops he will stillmake dumb play after dumb play.

so again, you're bashing him because he will be hurting the team in the future...

 

good to get a head start i guess.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Zimmerman struck out swinging

[Tracer Bullet]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

GIDP?

Your are right. Bloops into a double play. Way better.

so he's at fault for another guys baserunning

 

wow tough crowd

 

So is it that you really want Theriot to keep starting and hitting 1 or 2, or are you just wanting to argue with folks pissed at a GIDP in a game thread?

[sneakypower]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

GIDP?

Your are right. Bloops into a double play. Way better.

so he's at fault for another guys baserunning

 

wow tough crowd

He is at fault for not being a very good baseball player.

"not good at baseball"

 

awesome, an original term that adds much to the argument

 

if our worst player has been a 870 opsing SS then i look forward to a very, very, very prosperous season.

[illiniguy]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

Friday: CS twice, including once at 3B where afterwards the circumstances led to the Cubs hitting a sac fly.

Today: GIDP with the bases loaded in a situation to tie the game.

He is killing us. Even when he is hitting at a passable level he is no more than a replacement level player. On top of that he doesn't even "play the game the right way" He just isn't very good.

where are these 900 opsing replacement level shortstops and where can 25 teams in need of one find them?

But

Right, one would be foolish to assume he won't keep producing at that level and even when he stops he will stillmake dumb play after dumb play.

so again, you're bashing him because he will be hurting the team in the future...

 

good to get a head start i guess.

How do you not understand that his caught stealings are hurting the team? He is giving away outs. On top of that he is doing it in front of Lee and Ramirez. And yes I am also trying to brace for the inevitable return to the norm that will happen. At which time he will kill the team because no one on the Cubs management staff wants to take the guy out.

Edited April 27, 2008 by illiniguy

[sneakypower]

Does anyone have tally on the amount of runners in scoring position these scroats have stranded the past 4 games? My GOD they're looking awful lately

i'm guessing 90% of them were theriot's.

 

over/under at 31

[Fred Hornkohl]

Johnson walked , Guzman to second

[UMFan83]

Watch the Nationals show the Cubs how to hit with RISP.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 5-3 when they allow fewer than 3 walks.... 9-5 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[weis21]

Cubs have been letting these types of situation get away waaaaaaaaay too much lately.

 

Ya think? We'd be on a 9 game winning streak right now if we could hit with RISP

No I think we would be on that streak had Theriot not been playing. he has killed us with his glove, lack of hitting, and stealing.

 

Wow your right:

 

Thursday: GIDP with the bases loaded, botches a routine DP ball that results in the go ahead run scoring

GIDP?

Your are right. Bloops into a double play. Way better.

so he's at fault for another guys baserunning

 

wow tough crowd

He is at fault for not being a very good baseball player.

"not good at baseball"

 

awesome, an original term that adds much to the argument

 

if our worst player has been a 870 opsing SS then i look forward to a very, very, very prosperous season.

 

Do you honestly think that he has a better chance to sustain numbers like those than Cedeno? Look at his track record. He has shown that, over time, he will probably play below average baseball. It's not a stretch for someone to predict this.