The Pre-Emptive Dusty's Racism Claims against Chicago Thread

[rynesrevenge0206]

He was booed in the first home series because by the time they finally played in Wrigley he was already 0-the season (0-16 I believe).

 

Did you really think the fans booed the new player because he was black??? [-X

 

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

Wait a minute. I never said that Chicago hates black people. I said that Jones got treated like crap by the fans, which is true. I remember him being booed his first home series with the Cubs. And I thought that I heard a hand full of people made racist comments to him.

[bcl412]

He was booed in the first home series because by the time they finally played in Wrigley he was already 0-the season (0-16 I believe).

 

Did you really think the fans booed the new player because he was black??? [-X

 

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

Wait a minute. I never said that Chicago hates black people. I said that Jones got treated like crap by the fans, which is true. I remember him being booed his first home series with the Cubs. And I thought that I heard a hand full of people made racist comments to him.

 

No I don't think he was being booed because he was black. Maybe I shouldn't even have mentioned him being booed, looking back on it I don't know why I wrote that. All I was saying is I remember there being rumblings that he was hearing racist comments and death threats from some where. No I don't think at all that he was booed because he is black.

[biggers car]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

[Abe Frohman]

For the record - I was round-a-bout trying to point out that if Dusty and Jacque ever want to paint the picture that Chicago is a town that doesn't like blacks (which some people seem to think they are doing) - there are several black athletes (American blacks, Hispanic blacks, etc.) who captured our hearts and are our heros.

 

Also - I teach my kids that there are all kinds of different looking people in the world - and that we are all the same, just a little different. If that makes any sense. Bigger car is right - there is still racism out there, but to say Chicago is a racist town is just plain ignorant.

 

Right?

[OleMissCub]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

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[Soul]

He's in town now. Has the inevitable racism started yet?

[Outshined_One]

He's in town now. Has the inevitable racism started yet?

 

Think of it like the Spanish Inquisition. It happens when you least expect it.

[Magnetic Curses]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

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what's your point?

[UMFan83]

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

There's a difference between a bad black athlete and a good one. I'm not saying Chicago is any more racist then most major American cities, but most sports fans would cheer a Nazi if he was good at hitting the ball.

[Outshined_One]

There's a difference between a bad black athlete and a good one. I'm not saying Chicago is any more racist then most major American cities, but most sports fans would cheer a Nazi if he was good at hitting the ball.

 

Are you talking about sports fans in cheering any given player or a player who plays for the team said sports fans root for?

[bcl412]

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

There's a difference between a bad black athlete and a good one. I'm not saying Chicago is any more racist then most major American cities, but most sports fans would cheer a Nazi if he was good at hitting the ball.

 

This is pretty true. I remember my mother telling me when she worked in Alabama that one of her blatantly racist co-workers (I think it was a co-worker it could just have been certain people who were associated with her business) would tell her that black people are meant to be playing sports but not do any "intellectual jobs". Not saying that this has anything to do with Jaque or Dusty, but just because a minority is popular because of their athletic abilities doesn't mean that the people cheering for them aren't racist. There were Gladiators who were popular but that doesn't mean that they were considered equal. (Not saying all people look this way towards athletes but I am sure that there are some who do.)

[SouthSideRyan]

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

There's a difference between a bad black athlete and a good one. I'm not saying Chicago is any more racist then most major American cities, but most sports fans would cheer a Nazi if he was good at hitting the ball.

 

So you're saying that fans don't care about anything unless you're a good player. Saying that color of skin means nothing to the fans.

[OleMissCub]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

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what's your point?

 

My point? I posted a picture of a grammar text book. What the heck do you think my point is?

 

That post makes a hardcorecubsfan fan post look like a Noam Chomsky essay. It reads like one of those fourth grade Grammar class problems where you have to fix the paragraph.

[UMFan83]

If bad managers are considered a "race", consider me the grand dragon.

 

Golf clap. I chuckled.

 

I remember Jacque getting treated like crap by the fans less than a month into his tenure with the Cubs. I though for sure he was getting racial crap from some people. I don't remember hearing anything about Hawkins and I vaguely remember something about SF but not much.

 

I know, because Chicago hates black people like Michael Jordan, Ferguson Jenkins, Ernie Banks, Andre Dawson, Walter Peyton, Sammy Sosa (in the heyday), Billy Williams, Bill Clinton, and Ced Landrum.

 

There's a difference between a bad black athlete and a good one. I'm not saying Chicago is any more racist then most major American cities, but most sports fans would cheer a Nazi if he was good at hitting the ball.

 

So you're saying that fans don't care about anything unless you're a good player. Saying that color of skin means nothing to the fans.

 

It depends. I mean I think that LaTroy was a little too quick to be boo'd IMO. Also, after how much affection the Cubs fans had to Sosa, if you step back and look at the situation with no bias, its hard to believe how quickly the fans turned on him. If Mark Grace got caught with a corked bat and then the next year skipped out during the last game of the year after having declining numbers, I don't think the fans would have turned on him as completely as they did with Sammy.

 

I don't know though, I could be completely wrong in retrospect. There is so much grey area when talking about racism and things of that nature. I mean Todd Hundley is probably the most hated Cub of the last 25 years, and he of course was as white as they come. And a son of a member of the 69 Cubs no less. Kerry Wood, after everything that went on with him and the Cubs, the 20k game, the 2003 playoffs, signing with the Cubs last offseason with better offers on the table, gave up 3 ERs on Opening Day was boo'd pretty harshly. So honestly after typing all that who knows.

[Bote McBoteface]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

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what's your point?

 

My point? I posted a picture of a grammar text book. What the heck do you think my point is?

 

That post makes a hardcorecubsfan fan post look like a Noam Chomsky essay. It reads like one of those fourth grade Grammar class problems where you have to fix the paragraph.

 

Stop being so racist.

 

 

Dude.

[Laura]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

Welcome to the board!

[Soul]

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!

 

Welcome to the board!

 

:rotfl: :rotfl:

 

*1st post*......OMC flame job......WELCOME TO NSBB, PAL!

[Magnetic Curses]

 

My point? I posted a picture of a grammar text book. What the heck do you think my point is?

 

That post makes a hardcorecubsfan fan post look like a Noam Chomsky essay. It reads like one of those fourth grade Grammar class problems where you have to fix the paragraph.

 

why do you care so much about grammar all of the sudden?

[OleMissCub]

 

My point? I posted a picture of a grammar text book. What the heck do you think my point is?

 

That post makes a hardcorecubsfan fan post look like a Noam Chomsky essay. It reads like one of those fourth grade Grammar class problems where you have to fix the paragraph.

 

why do you care so much about grammar all of the sudden?

 

You're a funny guy sometimes.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

this is making me laugh a lot harder than it should

[SpongeWorthy]

He should use better grammar because he's black and should set a good example for his fellow African-American internet message board posters--especially when discussing racially sensitive topics.

 

Also, the fact that the poster in question who ridiculed his grammar has the screen name of "OleMissCub" possibly hints at a nefarious undertone given the region's difficult history with African Americans.

 

(Just to get things out in the open and end the ridiculous race baiting.)

[loukycub]

for those of you lucky :roll: enough to get the reds broadcasts, they are equating the booing to the vast amount of venom that arose from the bartman game. i don't know, maybe it was the legitimate shot at a world series bid, the first since 1945 (?) that rose expectations. dusty failed completely at following up the sucesses of year 1.

 

never mind that the club had gotten progressively WORSE from the second season since he has gotten there. as well as damn near ruined two, maybe three young arms in the process. stop protecting the man. for all of the being a players manager he was, it sure didn't do anything on the field after it seems the entire team had career years that year.

[OleMissCub]

this is getting hilarious

[Magnetic Curses]

 

My point? I posted a picture of a grammar text book. What the heck do you think my point is?

 

That post makes a hardcorecubsfan fan post look like a Noam Chomsky essay. It reads like one of those fourth grade Grammar class problems where you have to fix the paragraph.

 

why do you care so much about grammar all of the sudden?

 

You're a funny guy sometimes.

 

but why do you care so much about grammar all of the sudden? you never have before.

 

i mean, the post was fairly innocuous, hardly worthy of such a flame. perhaps he just should have reiterated the idea that the only racism that exists is reverse racism. maybe then he would have received a warm reception, huh?

[B]

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