Re: CL 3/18: Royals (Bale) @ Cubs (Marquis), 3:05 CST

[BudHouse]

YIKES!!! Kosuke stealing 2nd and ball hits him in the neck. He's OK, but EPatt is running for him.

[BCVM22]

He gets tripped up by Mike soap dropping Rouse, he gets hit in the neck by a bounced throw to second, good lord. Fukudome's got Cub luck already!

[Ding Dong Johnson]

And is now 25. Like I said, he needs to show something more than he is to justify another opportunity or risk being labeled as a AAAA player never losing the "prospect" label. Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see him at short but he can't be a guaranteed hole in the lineup. He has to beat out Theriot.

how about what he did at AAA last season? isn't that enough to show you he deserves another shot? once again, what has Ryan Theriot done to deserve the job?

[YearofDaCubs]

I would way rather have Ronny playing SS than Theriot

I wouldn't. Cedeno sucks. He's worse than Theriot and hasn't done anything to deserve the starting spot over Theriot.

[BudHouse]

He gets tripped up by Mike soap dropping Rouse, he gets hit in the neck by a bounced throw to second, good lord. Fukudome's got Cub luck already!

 

Send him some Joe's donuts and a case from The Wheel ASAP.

[BudHouse]

End of 6..still 4-1.

[salukifudd]

Cedeno - single to right (PH for Eyre)

Theriot - bunt single, runners at 1st and 2nd

Sori - K, 1 down

Lee - FC 5-4, 3B bobbled a double play ball, 2 down

ARam - 3 RUN ARAMABOMB to right field, great oppo power, 4-1 CUBS

Fukudome - BB

Chin-Hui Tsao in to pitch for ROYALS

Fukudome steals 2nd, gets hit in neck with throw (seems fine), Patterson PR

Derosa - BB

SOTO - K looking

 

end 6, 4-1 CUBS

[BCVM22]

Soto's had a rough spring at the plate.

[YearofDaCubs]

And is now 25. Like I said, he needs to show something more than he is to justify another opportunity or risk being labeled as a AAAA player never losing the "prospect" label. Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see him at short but he can't be a guaranteed hole in the lineup. He has to beat out Theriot.

how about what he did at AAA last season? isn't that enough to show you he deserves another shot? once again, what has Ryan Theriot done to deserve the job?

He did enough to beat out his competition which was Cedeno. Now if Hendry and Lou decide to move DeRo to SS or acquire a better SS I'm all for it but as of right now Theriot is a better option than Cedeno.

[YearofDaCubs]

I hope Soto can step up a bit. The last thing we need is Blanco as our starter.

[BeerHere]

And is now 25. Like I said, he needs to show something more than he is to justify another opportunity or risk being labeled as a AAAA player never losing the "prospect" label. Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see him at short but he can't be a guaranteed hole in the lineup. He has to beat out Theriot.

how about what he did at AAA last season? isn't that enough to show you he deserves another shot? once again, what has Ryan Theriot done to deserve the job?

 

To deserve the job ahead of Cedeno, he managed to get on base and score runs while playing decent defense:

 

In their first full year above Iowa:

Cedeno 2006 .271 .339 obp/slg; 92 runs+rbi; 23 errors, 24 years old 537AB

Theriot 2007 .326 .336 obp/slg 125 runs+rbi; 8 errors (300 fewer innings though), 28 years old 534AB

 

I'm not saying that Theriot is a savior by any means, but he beats Cedeno in first-year MLB production.

Edited March 18, 2008 by BeerHere

[BCVM22]

Tim Lahey making the bullpen decision a little easier.

[UK1679666180]

Until Cedeno can prove he can make routine plays, I don't think he'll ever be a starting SS.

[Keener98]

Sooooo Tim Lahey sucks, let him go back to where he came from please.

[BeerHere]

Score update?

[YearofDaCubs]

Was Lahey good or bad?

[salukifudd]

Score update?

 

5-4 KC top o' 7 still

[salukifudd]

Was Lahey good or bad?

 

Worse than bad.

[YearofDaCubs]

Wasn't this his first bad outing though?

[salukifudd]

Lahey in to pitch for CUBS

Gathwright - infield single to SS

Gathwright steals second

DeJesus - infield single to 1b, runners at 1st and 3rd

Callaspo - double to right-center, 4-3 CUBS

Teahan - double down left field line, 4-4

Butler - 4-3, runner on 3rd, 1 down

German - grounder to SS, throw home is late, 5-4 KC, runner on 1st

Maier - BB, runners on 1st and 2nd

Walrond in to pitch for CUBS

Berroa - F7, 2 down

Pena - K

 

mid 7, 5-4 PECOTA

[BCVM22]

Did Len just say we get to hear him paired with Santo for the TV broadcast next Monday?

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not saying that Theriot is a savior by any means, but he beats Cedeno in first-year MLB production.

 

Not all "first years" are equal.

 

And score runs? Are you kidding? How is that a good measure?

[salukifudd]

Did Len just say we get to hear him paired with Santo for the TV broadcast next Monday?

 

I think so, yes.

[BeerHere]

Lahey in to pitch for CUBS

Gathwright - infield single to SS

Gathwright steals second

DeJesus - infield single to 1b, runners at 1st and 3rd

Callaspo - double to right-center, 4-3 CUBS

Teahan - double down left field line, 4-4

Butler - 4-3, runner on 3rd, 1 down

German - grounder to SS, throw home is late, 5-4 KC, runner on 1st

Maier - BB, runners on 1st and 2nd

Walrond in to pitch for CUBS

Berroa - F7, 2 down

Pena - K

 

mid 7, 5-4 PECOTA

 

In his defense, two infield singles and a grounder to short (that should have been an out) along with 2 doubles and a walk.

[BeerHere]

I'm not saying that Theriot is a savior by any means, but he beats Cedeno in first-year MLB production.

 

Not all "first years" are equal.

 

And score runs? Are you kidding? How is that a good measure?

 

Not a great measure at all, but OBP/OPS, defense combined with that create a comparison to justify why Cedeno has to take the position away from Theriot, rather than hand him a second chance.