Re: The NFL Offseason Thread

[TruffleShuffle]

I think if he stayed healthy, Lito is a better CB than Samuels.

 

 

pfffft..your just saying that cuz he's the enemy ;)

 

and because lito dominates the cowboys for some bizarre reason

[Post Count Padder]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

[TruffleShuffle]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

[dew1679666265]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

The medicore QB situation in Chicago is still better than the absolute crap known as Tavaris Jackson.

[TruffleShuffle]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

The medicore QB situation in Chicago is still better than the absolute crap known as Tavaris Jackson.

 

sure about that?

 

tarvaris: http://www.nfl.com/players/tarvarisjackson/careerstats?id=JAC566507

rex: http://www.nfl.com/players/rexgrossman/careerstats?id=GRO597298

[dew1679666265]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

The medicore QB situation in Chicago is still better than the absolute crap known as Tavaris Jackson.

 

sure about that?

 

tarvaris: http://www.nfl.com/players/tarvarisjackson/careerstats?id=JAC566507

rex: http://www.nfl.com/players/rexgrossman/careerstats?id=GRO597298

 

I would probably take Jackson over any of the Bears' QBs last year. If for no other reason than Jackson is younger and isn't injury prone.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

"Chicago Bears QB's - 2007" isn't limited to Rex Grossman. Jackson without doubt is the worst QB in the NFL.

[dew1679666265]

"Chicago Bears QB's - 2007" isn't limited to Rex Grossman. Jackson without doubt is the worst QB in the NFL.

 

Nope, it's a virtual toss-up between him and Grossman and he's definitely better than Griese or Orton.

 

Let's see, he's also better than Chris Redman (ATL), maybe Todd Collins (WAS), Vinny Testaverde (CAR), maybe David Carr (CAR), maybe Daunte Culpepper (OAK), Gus Frerotte (STL), Charlie Frye (CLE), maybe Joey Harrington (ATL)...I don't feel like naming any more, though I'm sure there are more.

 

Jackson isn't a great QB at this point. But he's a decent young QB and may develop into something better - he might even get good at some point. That's more than you can say for Griese and Orton and probably Grossman too.

 

EDIT: By the way, all those QBs I listed started at least one game in 2007 (usually more than just one) and the team they started for is in parentheses.

[Post Count Padder]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

[dew1679666265]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

 

This offseason? I've got no problem yet. The main guys I want are still available so I'm not too worried.

 

If we don't eventually get Vince some help, though, he'll never have the chance to improve him numbers.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

The medicore QB situation in Chicago is still better than the absolute crap known as Tavaris Jackson.

 

sure about that?

 

tarvaris: http://www.nfl.com/players/tarvarisjackson/careerstats?id=JAC566507

rex: http://www.nfl.com/players/rexgrossman/careerstats?id=GRO597298

 

I would probably take Jackson over any of the Bears' QBs last year. If for no other reason than Jackson is younger and isn't injury prone.

 

he isnt?

[dew1679666265]

Too bad there isn't anyone to throw him the ball.

 

there wasn't anyone to throw him the ball in chicago either

The medicore QB situation in Chicago is still better than the absolute crap known as Tavaris Jackson.

 

sure about that?

 

tarvaris: http://www.nfl.com/players/tarvarisjackson/careerstats?id=JAC566507

rex: http://www.nfl.com/players/rexgrossman/careerstats?id=GRO597298

 

I would probably take Jackson over any of the Bears' QBs last year. If for no other reason than Jackson is younger and isn't injury prone.

 

he isnt?

 

Not as sure a thing as Grossman. Rex has missed most of four out five years in the NFL. Jackson only played four games in year one - I'm not sure if that was injury or not, though - but was around for all but four games this season. He may be injury prone, but hasn't proven it yet. Grossman definitely is.

[Post Count Padder]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

 

This offseason? I've got no problem yet. The main guys I want are still available so I'm not too worried.

 

If we don't eventually get Vince some help, though, he'll never have the chance to improve him numbers.

Who are the guys you want?

[dew1679666265]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

 

This offseason? I've got no problem yet. The main guys I want are still available so I'm not too worried.

 

If we don't eventually get Vince some help, though, he'll never have the chance to improve him numbers.

Who are the guys you want?

 

Roy Williams the receiver and Alge Crumpler. I then wouldn't mind Limas Sweed in the first round, but I could go either way on him. I definitely am hoping for at least one of Williams or Alge, though.

[Guest]

Alge is supposedly close to signing with the Seahawks.

[dew1679666265]

Alge is supposedly close to signing with the Seahawks.

 

:cry: Please don't happen...

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Donte Stallworth to the Browns.

Devery Henderson and Aaron Stecker re-up with the Saints.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Donte Stallworth to the Browns.

Devery Henderson and Aaron Stecker re-up with the Saints.

 

Stallworth + Edwards + Winslow

 

 

wow.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Issac Bruce re-unites with Martz in San Francisco.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Jaguars sign CB Drayton Florence.

[Vanilla Ice]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

 

This offseason? I've got no problem yet. The main guys I want are still available so I'm not too worried.

 

If we don't eventually get Vince some help, though, he'll never have the chance to improve him numbers.

 

This is what I heard from Falcons fans in the early years, we got him Crumple and Peerless Price (who turned out to be a bust for us, but it was partly Vick's fault) and drafted two WR'S in the first round. He never improved his numbers and got worse. The criticisms I hear from Tennessee on VY are eerily similar to those from Atlanta on Vick in his early years.

[dew1679666265]

Vikings got Berrian. Woooo!

 

I'll just keep praying the Titans get one or both of Roy Williams (WR) and Alge. That would be an awesome offseason - whatever happens with the draft.

Yeah it's sickening how little the Titans have done. VY needs weapons, it's time to get him some.

 

This offseason? I've got no problem yet. The main guys I want are still available so I'm not too worried.

 

If we don't eventually get Vince some help, though, he'll never have the chance to improve him numbers.

 

This is what I heard from Falcons fans in the early years, we got him Crumple and Peerless Price (who turned out to be a bust for us, but it was partly Vick's fault) and drafted two WR'S in the first round. He never improved his numbers and got worse. The criticisms I hear from Tennessee on VY are eerily similar to those from Atlanta on Vick in his early years.

 

I'm not that concerned about Vince developing. He's got a duo of head coach and O-coordinator (Fisher and Mike Heimerdinger) who have exeperienced developing a young, athletic, poor passer (Steve McNair) and did it quite well.

 

I blame a lot of Vick's problems on the coaches. Mora especially tried to turn him into a pocket passer (the West Coast offense implemented, etc) and that screwed him up. Fisher has shown he can deal with a high athleticism, poor passing QB and turn him into a very good NFL QB.

 

Now, this doesn't mean it'll happen with Vince, but if he's going to develop I'm convinced this staff can make it happen. Need more weapons, though...

[hawkeyecub]

Pumped about the Berrian signing. He's probably not a true #1 even though he's getting #1 money, but it had to be done. Really upgrades our offense.

 

Tarvaris isn't as terrible as many think. It was his first year as a starter with receivers who (especially with Rice injured) could not get any separation. He still has the tools and apparently the work habits to develop into a decent NFL QB.

 

Another year of experience for Sidney Rice and Jackson and the addition of Berrian should mean less 8 men in the box.

 

The Madieu Williams signing was nice also. Still need to find a DE who can get to the QB.