Milton Bradley back to San Diego

[Little Slide Rooter]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

[rocket]

for the love of god just double the padres deal and sign him. 1 year 8 million.

 

8 million for a guy who may or may not be ready by Opening Day (IMO, it's doubtful he's ready then). It's also an injury where seldom the player is the same until the second year back. Finally, even when you are optimistic about that injury and even if you disregard the character issues, he still has plenty of other injury issues.

 

The likelihood is that he would only play half the season, and that half would be good but not great production (he's been up and down between being an 820 and a 950 OPS player, and coming off this injury I'd lean much more to the 820 number that is more common for his career). IMO, that isn't worth 8 million dollars.

 

i think it's better than 10-15 million a year for a japanese player coming off an injury. hendry's vastly overspent to fill a need in the past, he may as well do it this year, especially if it'd be just a 1 year commitment.

[rocket]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

[Little Slide Rooter]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

[BigbadB]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

Yes, there is. It's called a suspension, which is what the umpire got for mentally breaking down and going off on Bradley last year.

[Sammy Sofa]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

[Little Slide Rooter]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

[USSoccer]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

 

He's a ton better than Jacque. It's not even close to a valid comparison.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The fact is, Hendry and the Cubs are looking for the pieces to turn the top team in the NL Central into the top team in the NL, and lets face it, thats not saying much. Milton Bradley is NOT that piece. That piece may very well not be out there this off season, however could become available later in the season, so whats the point of Hendry letting his money burn a hole in his pocket and spend it on a guy who wont be of much help? I dont see why he doesnt go all out and try to swing a big deal with Baltimore, who has stated that there are no untouchables on their roster? I bet he could manage to pry Bedard and even Markakis off their hands.

 

Also, would you really want a guy with his mental history playing in a filed where the fans can get incredibly brutal when you underperform?

[Sammy Sofa]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

 

Trust me, it has little to do with stats. You have the most unrealistic and often completely made up perceptions of players that it often baffles me as to whether or not you actually even pay attention to baseball.

[RammyFanny]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

:shock:

 

I don't know if you implied that because you think he will be injured (therefore making every player better than him), but he's a much better hitter (approach and power) than Jacque.

[Sammy Sofa]

The fact is, Hendry and the Cubs are looking for the pieces to turn the top team in the NL Central into the top team in the NL, and lets face it, thats not saying much. Milton Bradley is NOT that piece. That piece may very well not be out there this off season, however could become available later in the season, so whats the point of Hendry letting his money burn a hole in his pocket and spend it on a guy who wont be of much help? I dont see why he doesnt go all out and try to swing a big deal with Baltimore, who has stated that there are no untouchables on their roster? I bet he could manage to pry Bedard and even Markakis off their hands.

 

Also, would you really want a guy with his mental history playing in a filed where the fans can get incredibly brutal when you underperform?

 

If you're serious with this "headcase" nonsense, then I'll have to assume you view Zambrano as a complete psychopath.

[soapy]

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

to say he's not an upgrade of Jacque Jones is completely insane. i'm sorry, but it is. say what you will about injury and temper concerns, but Jones can't even dream of being as productive as Milton Bradley.

[BigbadB]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

 

He is injury prone, but that's why you keep a guy like Matt Murton around as a 4th outfielder. He's not a basket case and he's a tremendous upgrade over Jacque Jones.

 

If he stayed healthy, he'd probably be more productive than Fukudome at less than half the cost.

 

While guys like Andruw Jones and Torii Hunter are getting paid more than their value, guys like Milton Bradley are flying under the radar and getting paid less than their value. He fits what Hendry is looking for. Lefty outfielder with power. Sign him now and if you get Fukudome, then you trade Pie and Marshall for an upgrade in the rotation or the middle infield and call it an offseason. Done. It's really that simple.

[rocket]

milton bradley is no mike fontenot, but he's better than jacque jones.

[VanceJergins]

you can tell we've given up on a big off season deal when everyones clamouring for a head case with a career avg. in the .270s. I bet if Murton were given a chnce to start full time, hed put up similar stats to Bradleys, and hed be less likely to land in jail.

 

come on, there's a lot more valuable stats than batting average.

 

 

Is their a mental beakdown stat?

 

You have, by far, the worst baseball anaysis of anyone currently posting on this board.

 

You dont have to be a stat head to know that hes injury prone, a basket case, and not even an up grade over Jacque Jones offensively or defensively.

 

He is injury prone, but that's why you keep a guy like Matt Murton around as a 4th outfielder. He's not a basket case and he's a tremendous upgrade over Jacque Jones.

 

If he stayed healthy, he'd probably be more productive than Fukudome at less than half the cost.

 

While guys like Andruw Jones and Torii Hunter are getting paid more than their value, guys like Milton Bradley are flying under the radar and getting paid less than their value. He fits what Hendry is looking for. Lefty outfielder with power. Sign him now and if you get Fukudome, then you trade Pie and Marshall for an upgrade in the rotation or the middle infield and call it an offseason. Done. It's really that simple.

 

I completely agree....and its really sad that Bradley won't even cross Hendry's mind.

[BigbadB]

I completely agree....and its really sad that Bradley won't even cross Hendry's mind.

 

If nothing else, Bradley provides insurance if Hendry loses out on Fukudome. If he gets both, he's got a top notch outfield. Chances are also good that Bradley could be had for a 1 year deal, which allows you to either let Pie get another year of seasoning or plenty of at bats if Bradley does miss any time. If Pie ends up being the real deal, Bradley would be easy to move at the deadline.

 

If Bradley is such a horrible person, why is San Diego looking to bring him back for another year?

[Little Slide Rooter]

I completely agree....and its really sad that Bradley won't even cross Hendry's mind.

 

If nothing else, Bradley provides insurance if Hendry loses out on Fukudome. If he gets both, he's got a top notch outfield. Chances are also good that Bradley could be had for a 1 year deal, which allows you to either let Pie get another year of seasoning or plenty of at bats if Bradley does miss any time. If Pie ends up being the real deal, Bradley would be easy to move at the deadline.

 

If Bradley is such a horrible person, why is San Diego looking to bring him back for another year?

 

Have you seen the Padres lineup?

[brinoch]

I'd absolutely be burning up the lines to Bradley. This is such a no-brainer.

[Little Slide Rooter]

back to the Jones/Bradley comparisons, they'be been around the same amount of time, Jones since '99, Bradley since '00.

 

Hers some offensive stats

 

JJ

Avg-.280

HR-164

SLG-.455

OPS-100

Games Played-1260

 

MB

avg-.273

HR-81

SLG-.439

OPS-110

Games Played-691

 

So yes, these are 2 incredibly comparable players.

 

Sure, maybe I may not be as in the now as you MOJO, but I consider myself more of an average fan then someone who is going to delve into every aspect of their game. If someone is a solid player, who doesnt cause a problem amongs his team mates, I dont see the point in dumping them unless they have a legitimate upgrade, Bradley is not that. neither of these 2 are the types of players who will make or break a team, but could be decent number 6 guys in a decent lineup.

[Mephistopheles]

little fontenutewonfirhgendoisijndkgjreiolfger,

 

i like how you conveniently left out their obps.

 

they are terrible comps. FLAT OUT TERRIBLE.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bradley and Jones are not comparable players, not even close.

 

In the last 5 years, Bradley's lowest OBP was .350(among .421, .362, .370, and .402). Jones' highest was .335(the last of .333, .315, .319, .334). Bradley's lowest OPS+ was 108(147, 118, 114, 153 were the other 4), same as Jacque's highest(107, 89, 98, 87). Bradley's also a superior defender and baserunner.

[Mephistopheles]

but hes an average fan so he does not need to know that, tt

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Believe whatever the hell you want

[Little Slide Rooter]

I give up, Milton Bradley is going to do what Ernie Banks, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, Andre Dawson, Ryne Sanberg, Mark Grace, Sammy Sosa, Moises Alou, Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, and Alfonso Soriano couldnt and be the missing piece that will finally take us to the promised land. This is the last I'll speak on it.