All-Time Top 10 Catchers

[TruffleShuffle]

Again, you're not restricted to these names - this is just a quick help. If other names - serious suggestions, not Jody Davis, Rick Wilkins and Hector Villanueva - start appearing on lists, then I'll edit this list to include those names as well.

 

Johnny Bench -- BP page

Yogi Berra -- BP page

Bob Boone -- BP page

Roger Bresnahan -- BP page

Roy Campanella -- BP page

Gary Carter -- BP page

Mickey Cochrane -- BP page

Bill Dickey -- BP page

Buck Ewing -- BP page

Rick Ferrell -- BP page

Carlton Fisk -- BP page

Bill Freehan -- BP page

Gabby Hartnett -- BP page

Elston Howard -- BP page

Ernie Lombardi -- BP page

Javy Lopez -- BP page

Thurmon Munson -- BP page

Lance Parrish -- BP page

Mike Piazza -- BP page

Darrell Porter -- BP page

Jorge Posada -- BP page

Pudge Rodriguez -- BP page

Ray Schalk -- BP page

Wally Schang -- BP page

Ted Simmons -- BP page

Gene Tenace -- BP page

Joe Torre -- BP page

Edited October 30, 2007 by TruffleShuffle

[Mephistopheles]

Umm...Gene Tenace? Do you need a history refresher ;)

 

Tenace should be there somewhere. He's probably HOF worthy.

 

 

There are a couple other undefendable omissions, but hes the big one.

[TruffleShuffle]

Umm...Gene Tenace? Do you need a history refresher ;)

 

Tenace should be there somewhere. He's probably HOF worthy.

 

 

There are a couple other undefendable omissions, but hes the big one.

 

So noted. He was the second list down on James' list that I didn't add - Bob Boone was the one ahead of him. I added both of them. I say no to the next one though (Tim McCarver).

 

Generally I'm trying not to go through the list of top 100 players at a given position and pick and choose ones that I think should be on the list. I don't want to influence the voting too much. But like I said above, suggestions are fine.

 

Geovany Soto narrowly misses the cut, by the way.

[haltz]

Tettleton, Stanley, Chief Meyers, Daulton and others show up on a (min 700 games at catcher) OPS+ leaderboard.

 

Jason Kendall is 13th in Runs Created. Weird.

[chuckywang]

Bench, Campanella, Piazza, Dickey, Fisk, Carter, Pudge, Berra, Munson

[TruffleShuffle]

Bench, Campanella, Piazza, Dickey, Fisk, Carter, Pudge, Berra, Munson

 

great, one more and that'll be ten ;)

[ManCrushOnNomar]

Koyie Hill

[Brian]

How did this not get done by somebody else by now???

 

 

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1. Geovany Soto

 

/thread

[NewUserName]

Cochrane, Hartnett, Bench, Fisk, Berra, Dickey, Campenella, Piazza, Munson and Porter.

[Rob]

1. Bench

2. Berra

3. Campanella

4. Piazza

5. Cochrane

6. Simmons

7. Carter

8. Lombardi

9. Rodriguez

10. Hartnett

[cuubs4life]

1. Bench

2. Berra

3. Campanella

4. Piazza

5. Cochrane

6. Simmons

7. Carter

8. Lombardi

9. Rodriguez

10. Hartnett

 

No fisk?

[Derwood]

rick wilkens

scott servais

tyler houston

henry blanco

benito santiago

koyie hill

rob bowen

sandy martinez

[Ding Dong Johnson]

rick wilkens

scott servais

tyler houston

henry blanco

benito santiago

koyie hill

rob bowen

sandy martinez

 

MACHADO??? :twisted:

[Derwood]

rick wilkens

scott servais

tyler houston

henry blanco

benito santiago

koyie hill

rob bowen

sandy martinez

 

MACHADO??? :twisted:

 

how could i forget?

 

the question was "top 10 Cubs catchers since 1992", right?

[OleMissCub]

1. Bench

2. Berra

3. Rodriguez

4. Campanella

5. Cochrane

6. Piazza

7. Simmons

8. Hartnett

9. Carter

10. Fisk

[NewUserName]

rick wilkens

scott servais

tyler houston

henry blanco

benito santiago

koyie hill

rob bowen

sandy martinez

 

MACHADO??? :twisted:

 

how could i forget?

 

the question was "top 10 Cubs catchers since 1992", right?

 

 

I was wondering why there was no Barry Foote and George Mitterwald

[Ryno12]

How is Damon Berryhill not included here?!?! :wink:

[bukie]

Yogi Berra

Johnny Bench

Roy Campanella

Gabby Hartnett

Mike Piazza

Ivan Rodriguez

Craig Biggio

Mickey Cochrane

Gary Carter

Carlton Fisk

Geovany Soto

[biittner77]

How much of a factor should defense be in these considerations? Piazza, for example was pretty lousy defensively for a good chunk of his career but his offensively numbers can't be ignored. Should he drop down the list because of his defense? If he was an OF/ 1st base the answer would be no but at a defense first position the answer is less clear.

[SouthSideRyan]

How much of a factor should defense be in these considerations? Piazza, for example was pretty lousy defensively for a good chunk of his career but his offensively numbers can't be ignored. Should he drop down the list because of his defense? If he was an OF/ 1st base the answer would be no but at a defense first position the answer is less clear.

 

Even for OF/1B, I think you have to(and I will to some extent) factor in their defense. Obviously it's not enough to torpedo a guy, but it has to come into play.

[erik316wttn]

1. Bench

2. Berra

3. Campenella

4. Josh Gibson

5. Pudge

6. Simmons

7. Hartnett

8. Fisk

9. Carter

10. Piazza

[TruffleShuffle]

How much of a factor should defense be in these considerations? Piazza, for example was pretty lousy defensively for a good chunk of his career but his offensively numbers can't be ignored. Should he drop down the list because of his defense? If he was an OF/ 1st base the answer would be no but at a defense first position the answer is less clear.

 

Even for OF/1B, I think you have to(and I will to some extent) factor in their defense. Obviously it's not enough to torpedo a guy, but it has to come into play.

 

Agreed. Mike Piazza is probably the best-hitting catcher of all time, but I'm not going to be ranking him first on my list, because his defense is, and has always been, lousy. That's a big reason why I like the BP pages, because they have fielding metrics like FRAA where you can see that Piazza has been allowed 150 runs more than the average catcher because of his fielding, whereas Yogi Berra is +122. I know that it's an imperfect metric, but that plus WARP3 give at some attempt to quantify a player's defense.

 

But really, it's just up to you when it comes to weighing a player's negative contributions on the defensive side of the ball.

[erik316wttn]

I put Josh Gibson on my list. Hope Negro League players are ok.

[AlwaysaCub]

1. Bench

2. Berra

3. Piazza

4. Fisk

5. Campanella

6. Cochrane

7. Rodriguez

8. Hartnett

9. Dickey

10. Carter

[AlwaysaCub]

I put Josh Gibson on my list. Hope Negro League players are ok.

 

That changes everything. What's the ruling?