College Football - Week of 10/20

[cubweiser03]

Is Ohio State the least inspiring No. 1 team in the last decade?

 

the maurice clarett team was completely uninspiring too, they won every game by about 3 points and were given major scares by mediocre teams like Purdue, Illinois and Cincinnati. Then they made the national championship game, did next to nothing on offense all game, and were saved by a bogus pass interference call.

 

but yeah this team is even less inspiring than that one.

 

That team drove me freaking nuts. I havent seen enough of these guys yet to get a good read on them. The next 5 weeks for them will definetly be their test.

[imb]

Is Ohio State the least inspiring No. 1 team in the last decade?

 

the maurice clarett team was completely uninspiring too, they won every game by about 3 points and were given major scares by mediocre teams like Purdue, Illinois and Cincinnati. Then they made the national championship game, did next to nothing on offense all game, and were saved by a bogus pass interference call.

 

but yeah this team is even less inspiring than that one.

 

I don't even necessarily mean on a performance level, but just in terms of excitement. Boeckman and thirteen running backs? Just on a national level, they're boring as hell.

[Derwood]

Is Ohio State the least inspiring No. 1 team in the last decade?

 

the maurice clarett team was completely uninspiring too, they won every game by about 3 points and were given major scares by mediocre teams like Purdue, Illinois and Cincinnati. Then they made the national championship game, did next to nothing on offense all game, and were saved by a bogus pass interference call.

 

but yeah this team is even less inspiring than that one.

 

I don't even necessarily mean on a performance level, but just in terms of excitement. Boeckman and thirteen running backs? Just on a national level, they're boring as hell.

 

they have two (dubiously) "quality" wins (Washington, Purdue) and then wins over several piles of crap. Their second half schedule is brutal (Wisconsin, PSU, Michigan, Michigan State and someone else). They'll lose

[NewUserName]

Is Ohio State the least inspiring No. 1 team in the last decade?

 

the maurice clarett team was completely uninspiring too, they won every game by about 3 points and were given major scares by mediocre teams like Purdue, Illinois and Cincinnati. Then they made the national championship game, did next to nothing on offense all game, and were saved by a bogus pass interference call.

 

but yeah this team is even less inspiring than that one.

 

 

There was a bogus call that went Miami's way late in the 4th quarter of that game. If not for that OSU would have won in regulation. Funny how you Penn St guys only remember the calls that you dont like.

 

Man I hate that Michigan St lost to Northwestern last week. If we would beat OSU this week, we would be sitting real pretty. I am not saying we are going to beat OSU, but I think we can.

[Keener98]

If someone can go ahead and explain Michigan being ranked ahead of Illinois, I'd love to hear it.

 

AND WISCONSIN IN THE COACHES POLL??

Michigan's won five straight and Illinois just lost to a team that had no Big Ten wins in a year.

 

And Michigan lost to a D2 school and their resume is nowhere close to being as good as Ilinois

It will look much better than Illinois after they beat them this week.

 

Ok if that happens why would it look better since IL isnt even ranked? We are talking about right now, and right now IL has a much better resume.

[Guest]

Is Ohio State the least inspiring No. 1 team in the last decade?

 

the maurice clarett team was completely uninspiring too, they won every game by about 3 points and were given major scares by mediocre teams like Purdue, Illinois and Cincinnati. Then they made the national championship game, did next to nothing on offense all game, and were saved by a bogus pass interference call.

 

but yeah this team is even less inspiring than that one.

 

There was a bogus call that went Miami's way late in the 4th quarter of that game. If not for that OSU would have won in regulation. Funny how you Penn St guys only remember the calls that you dont like.

 

Man I hate that Michigan St lost to Northwestern last week. If we would beat OSU this week, we would be sitting real pretty. I am not saying we are going to beat OSU, but I think we can.

 

What was the situation of the call? Because I can't imagine a call affecting a game more than one that directly prevents the game from ending - without that PI call, the game is over then and Miami wins.

[illiniguy]

If someone can go ahead and explain Michigan being ranked ahead of Illinois, I'd love to hear it.

 

AND WISCONSIN IN THE COACHES POLL??

Michigan's won five straight and Illinois just lost to a team that had no Big Ten wins in a year.

 

And Michigan lost to a D2 school and their resume is nowhere close to being as good as Ilinois

It will look much better than Illinois after they beat them this week.

 

Ok if that happens why would it look better since IL isnt even ranked? We are talking about right now, and right now IL has a much better resume.

Duh, because you disproved his theory that's why. Unless of course the rankings are a new way of looking into the future. At this point, right now, for this week Illinois has a better resume than Michigan. AS such it makes no sense for Michigan to be ranked ahead of them.

[Derwood]

if i learned nothing else this past week, it's that the Pac 10 has the hands down ugliest set of school uniforms ever. Oregon will always be worst, but Cal's were atrocious, USC's look like Jr. High uni's, Washington State's all-reds look like pajamas....FTH are the designers thinking?

[Andy]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

[Keener98]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

[Andy]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

[shnsajax]

if i learned nothing else this past week, it's that the Pac 10 has the hands down ugliest set of school uniforms ever. Oregon will always be worst, but Cal's were atrocious, USC's look like Jr. High uni's, Washington State's all-reds look like pajamas....FTH are the designers thinking?

 

Are those all Nike schools?

[snoodmonger]

This week is a huge game for the KU football program. Colorado is not good, but they're a different team in Boulder, and KU has never played them well. If we win, we'll have a great shot at going into the Mizzou game w only one loss or--dare I say it--unbeaten. If we lose, well, it's the kind of loss that could really derail what's shaping up to be a special (by KU football standards) season.

[Keener98]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

You keep talking about Michigan winning 5 straight. Big deal they have beaten. 1 team worth a crap(Purdue) and then 1 decent team(Penn State) and 3 teams that suck(Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan, and Northwestern).

 

They are ranked because they are Michigan plain and simple.

Edited October 15, 2007 by Keener98

[Derwood]

if i learned nothing else this past week, it's that the Pac 10 has the hands down ugliest set of school uniforms ever. Oregon will always be worst, but Cal's were atrocious, USC's look like Jr. High uni's, Washington State's all-reds look like pajamas....FTH are the designers thinking?

 

Are those all Nike schools?

 

maybe, but Penn State is a Nike school too

[Andy]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

You keep talking about Michigan winning 5 straight. Big deal they have beaten. 1 team worth a crap(Purdue) and then 1 decent team(Penn State) and 3 teams that suck(Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan, and Northwestern).

 

They are ranked because they are Michigan plain and simple.

I'm speaking through the voters. 5 straight wins will always outweigh 1 straight loss, no matter who it's against, in the polls. Simple fact.

[Keener98]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

You keep talking about Michigan winning 5 straight. Big deal they have beaten. 1 team worth a crap(Purdue) and then 1 decent team(Penn State) and 3 teams that suck(Notre Dame, Eastern Michigan, and Northwestern).

 

They are ranked because they are Michigan plain and simple.

I'm speaking through the voters. 5 straight wins will always outweigh 1 straight loss, no matter who it's against, in the polls. Simple fact.

 

Especially when you are Michigan, Notre Dame, Miami, etc.... Doesnt matter cause after this Sat Michigan will go back to being unranked.

[da bears]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

Yeah, Missouri's not all that good even though they were leading going into the fourth at the number 4 ranked team in the country. :roll:

[Guest]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

and because they are michigan. I don't care because I think ratings are ridiculous (how is Oregon now ahead of Cal?) but I do think Michigan gets bias.

[Butterscup1679666578]

This week is a huge game for the KU football program. Colorado is not good, but they're a different team in Boulder, and KU has never played them well. If we win, we'll have a great shot at going into the Mizzou game w only one loss or--dare I say it--unbeaten. If we lose, well, it's the kind of loss that could really derail what's shaping up to be a special (by KU football standards) season.

 

I just looked at your schedule and I can't believe you don't play OU or Texas. I want your schedule-makers.

[Guest]

This week is a huge game for the KU football program. Colorado is not good, but they're a different team in Boulder, and KU has never played them well. If we win, we'll have a great shot at going into the Mizzou game w only one loss or--dare I say it--unbeaten. If we lose, well, it's the kind of loss that could really derail what's shaping up to be a special (by KU football standards) season.

 

KU should be ranked higher. Hopefully they don't run out of gas like Oklahoma did.

[snoodmonger]

This week is a huge game for the KU football program. Colorado is not good, but they're a different team in Boulder, and KU has never played them well. If we win, we'll have a great shot at going into the Mizzou game w only one loss or--dare I say it--unbeaten. If we lose, well, it's the kind of loss that could really derail what's shaping up to be a special (by KU football standards) season.

 

KU should be ranked higher. Hopefully they don't run out of gas like Oklahoma did.

 

I understand the voter reluctance.

 

People look at our record last year, and they don't realize how close we were to 9 wins. We just couldn't close out games. They also don't realize how big an impact changing O Coordinators has been. Still, I'm not quite sure what to make of this team yet, either.

 

Our schedule has been pillow-soft so far, but we've been POUNDING our opponents with an average score of 50-10. Also, our KSU win was pretty big, IMO. They should've beaten Auburn on the road, and they smoked Texas and CU. I think they're better than I thought.

 

Who knows. I'm going to sit back and enjoy it as much as possible. It's weird being a KU fan and not caring about Midnight Madness because it's still football season.

[Andy]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

Yeah, Missouri's not all that good even though they were leading going into the fourth at the number 4 ranked team in the country. :roll:

Read the sentence again, I was referring to Nebraska. I don't even know why I mention Missouri or Illinois in these threads, it's even more of a flame invitation than being a ND fan. I'll just drop the subject entirely.

[da bears]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

Yeah, Missouri's not all that good even though they were leading going into the fourth at the number 4 ranked team in the country. :roll:

Read the sentence again, I was referring to Nebraska. I don't even know why I mention Missouri or Illinois in these threads, it's even more of a flame invitation than being a ND fan. I'll just drop the subject entirely.

 

Eh, my bad.

 

Anyways, word on Nebraska boards is that they're going to buy out the contracts of the AD, Callahan and his staff. That would be interesting.

[illiniguy]

Illinois has one decent loss (Missouri) and one awful loss (Iowa). Michigan has one decent loss made less decent by how crappy they played (Oregon) and one awful loss made more awful by the fact that the opponent plays in a lower division (App State).

 

Illinois is lower ranked because their last loss was last week and Michigan's last loss was Sept. 9th. That's why. I'd think it's pretty simple.

 

Losing to the 15 team in the nation now is only a "decent loss"? I dont care when IL loss was, the reason Michigan is ranked and Il isnt is because they are Michigan, and Illinois is Illinois. Id think its pretty simple. Who has Michigan beaten? Illinois has beaten the then #5 team Wisconsin, and a top 20 team at the time in Penn State.

At the time, Notre Dame's 2005 win over Michigan was a road win over a top 5 team and by the end of the year everyone was trashing it because Michigan lost 5 games.

 

You can't change the criteria for a good win to fit your team. Wisconsin's not very good as they've proven in their ugly wins over The Citadel and Iowa plus their 2 losses, and Penn State isn't either. Although they were ranked higher when Michigan beat them than when you did, so I guess that was an impressive win.

 

If Illinois had won five straight and Michigan had just dropped a game to a team without a league win in over a year, you'd be looking at the reverse situation, there's not a doubt about it.

 

And yes, as Missouri has no win better than a neutral-site win over an unranked team (Nebraska just got steamrolled at home by Oklahoma State and barely squeaked by the BSU Cardinals, so it's safe to say they aren't all that good either), it's 'only' a decent loss.

 

Yeah, Missouri's not all that good even though they were leading going into the fourth at the number 4 ranked team in the country. :roll:

Read the sentence again, I was referring to Nebraska. I don't even know why I mention Missouri or Illinois in these threads, it's even more of a flame invitation than being a ND fan. I'll just drop the subject entirely.

I get the point you are arguing. Hell Michigan might be better than Illinois. My oly beef is at this point our wins and loses are both better than Michigans.

 

Also you should know that there are going to be a lot of Mizzou and Illini fans on a Cubs board. Don't let that stop you from making any post you want.