What will it take to get Soriano out of the leadoff spot?

[rynefan]

Is there really any hope of getting Soriano out of the leadoff spot at this point? I doubt it, but is there any hope? What about next season?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Is there really any hope of getting Soriano out of the leadoff spot at this point? I doubt it, but is there any hope? What about next season?

 

 

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[KingCubsFan]

Is there really any hope of getting Soriano out of the leadoff spot at this point? I doubt it, but is there any hope? What about next season?

No, probably not. My guess is he'll move lower in the order in 2-3 years when he loses his speed (that doesn't mean that's a very good reason)

[rynefan]

Maybe Bobby Dernier would come back.

[MikeyLikesCubbies]

I don't think it will be as big a deal next year when his leg is healed, but it's killing them now. Why don't we just put Aramis in the leadoff spot? It makes about the same amount of sense.

[rynefan]

That was making me sick last night. The D'backs were consistently getting their leadoff hitter on, no matter who it was.

[rynefan]

No kidding. When you see him get a single off that shot off the wall, you can' help but wonder.

[Sammy Sofa]

If someone says Theriot should be there instead, punches will be thrown.

[hardcorecubfan]

That was making me sick last night. The D'backs were consistently getting their leadoff hitter on, no matter who it was.

 

because they are a better team.

[CUBZ99]

If someone says Theriot should be there instead, punches will be thrown.

 

Theriot would be a good utility player.

[minnesotacubsfan]

If someone says Theriot should be there instead, punches will be thrown.

 

I think TheRiot should leadoff

 

 

 

(bring it mojo, I'm ina fight'n mood!!!)

[E.J.]

Soriano should never be batting leadoff. Ever. He's a #5 hitter. Put him there. It's ridiculous that he gets to decide where he wants to bat. Who runs this team?

 

My lineup:

 

DeRo 2b

Murton RF

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Soto C

Jones CF

Cedeno SS

Pitcher

[minnesotacubsfan]

Soriano should never be batting leadoff. Ever. He's a #5 hitter. Put him there. It's ridiculous that he gets to decide where he wants to bat. Who runs this team?

 

My lineup:

 

DeRo 2b

Murton RF

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Soto C

Jones CF

Cedeno SS

Pitcher

 

i DONT MIND THAT LINEUP. WILL jONES BE WITH US NEXT YEAR? OR WILL IT BE pIE?

 

(edit-stupid capslock-sorry)

[E.J.]

Soriano should never be batting leadoff. Ever. He's a #5 hitter. Put him there. It's ridiculous that he gets to decide where he wants to bat. Who runs this team?

 

My lineup:

 

DeRo 2b

Murton RF

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Soto C

Jones CF

Cedeno SS

Pitcher

 

i DONT MIND THAT LINEUP. WILL jONES BE WITH US NEXT YEAR? OR WILL IT BE pIE?

 

(edit-stupid capslock-sorry)

 

I'm still talking about this season and Saturday's game. I haven't given up hope that the Cubs can at least make it to game 5. Of course they'll get killed if they make it to game 5, but I still think they can get there.

 

As for next year, I'd love to see the Cubs either bring in a good hitting SS or a power-hitting RF. I'd let Pie take over in CF and send Jacque packing. I'm just hoping our biggest problems (Hendry, Trib) are gone before next season starts. I want to start seeing players who work counts and have the ability to take walks. I'm so tired of watching our "5-tool" players hacking at everything in the stadium.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I'm still talking about this season and Saturday's game. I haven't given up hope that the Cubs can at least make it to game 5. Of course they'll get killed if they make it to game 5, but I still think they can get there.

 

As for next year, I'd love to see the Cubs either bring in a good hitting SS or a power-hitting RF. I'd let Pie take over in CF and send Jacque packing. I'm just hoping our biggest problems (Hendry, Trib) are gone before next season starts. I want to start seeing players who work counts and have the ability to take walks. I'm so tired of watching our "5-tool" players hacking at everything in the stadium.

 

I would agree

[Peoriaman]

no

[soapy]

i think it would take Soriano requesting to move out of the lead-off spot. which, obviously, isn't happening.

[Tracer Bullet]

Soriano should never be batting leadoff. Ever. He's a #5 hitter. Put him there. It's ridiculous that he gets to decide where he wants to bat. Who runs this team?

 

My lineup:

 

DeRo 2b

Murton RF

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Soto C

Jones CF

Cedeno SS

Pitcher

 

If only...

[rawaction]

It would take Jose Reyes and then Soriano would just move to #2.

 

I actually don't mind Soriano at leadoff.......IF

 

-the Cubs get a legit #5 hitter

-the Cubs get a legit #6 hitter (Soto could be decent here)

-the Cubs use Derosa (a legit #2 hitter) in the 2nd spot

[jersey cubs fan]

It would take Jose Reyes and then Soriano would just move to #2.

 

I actually don't mind Soriano at leadoff.......IF

 

-the Cubs get a legit #5 hitter

-the Cubs get a legit #6 hitter (Soto could be decent here)

-the Cubs use Derosa (a legit #2 hitter) in the 2nd spot

 

Really it's all about the 5 hitter. 6 could very easily be handled by Murton and/or Soto.

[nilodnayr]

Soriano should never be batting leadoff. Ever. He's a #5 hitter. Put him there. It's ridiculous that he gets to decide where he wants to bat. Who runs this team?

 

My lineup:

 

DeRo 2b

Murton RF

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Soto C

Jones CF

Cedeno SS

Pitcher

 

DeRo 2b

Lee 1b

Aram 3b

Soriano LF

Murton RF

Soto C

Jones CF

Pitcher

Cedeno SS

[Guest]

Why does a new thread about this get started at least once a week? He's not moving out of the leadoff spot anytime soon. Deal with it. I don't understand why people constantly bring it up like it's something that could change soon.

[Sammy Sofa]

Aren't his numbers God-awful with people on base?

[Fred Hornkohl]

Aren't his numbers God-awful with people on base?

 

Yes, they are.

 

Percentage of baserunners driven in........

 

04/02 - 09/30      BDI  LOB   RBI%
Ward                16   44  0.267
Ramirez             75  219  0.255
Jones               61  193  0.240
DeRosa              63  212  0.229
Kendall             18   61  0.228
Lee                 59  210  0.219
Floyd               36  139  0.206
Pagan               16   66  0.195
Fontenot            26  109  0.193
Theriot             41  182  0.184
Cedeno               9   40  0.184
Pie                 18   82  0.180
Soto                 5   23  0.179
Soriano             40  184  0.179
Fox                  1    5  0.167
K Hill              10   58  0.147
Barrett             19  113  0.144
Blanco               4   25  0.138
Murton              14  102  0.121
Bowen                2   19  0.095
Izturis              8   79  0.092
Monroe               3   33  0.083
Moore                0    3  0.000
Patterson            0    4  0.000
Fuld                 0    1  0.000

CUBS               560 2395  0.190

[apete6]

See, I'd bat Soriano between Lee and Ramirez. How many people would risk walking him with ARAM on deck? He would see a ton of fastballs with men on base.

 

Murton

Lee

Soriano

Ramirez

DeRosa

Jones

Soto

Theriot

 

When Pie starts, just put him #1 instead of Murton OR you could put Riot #1, Soto #8 and Pie #7 so Pie can swing away and Soto (and his better OBP) can bat in front of the pitcher.