Webb and his Hat

[CubColtPacer]

Webb isn't pitching on Sunday. Z is, but Webb is going in game 5 on Tuesday.

 

Hmmm. I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If the Cubs somehow won the next two games, I doubt that the D-Backs would risk their season on a rookie pitching against Zambrano, IN Chicago.

 

My guess is if the Cubs are up 2-1, Webb is pitching on Sunday. If Arizona is up 2-1, Webb pitches on Tuesday in Arizona.

 

It would be real nice for the Cubs to be up 2-1 in this series rather than down 2-1 come Sunday.

 

I think it would be a terrible decision for the Diamondbacks if they moved Webb up. He has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career, and the Diamondbacks have no real reason to move him up like the Cubs do. The difference between Micah Owings and Doug Davis is a lot smaller than the difference between Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

 

The D-Backs would be giving themselves less chance of winning the series just to give them a greater chance of winning game 4. I hope they make that decision, but I doubt they will.

 

But if the D-Backs are facing elimination, the difference between Webb on short rest versus Owning/Davis can be quite significant. Personally, the only way I see Arizona NOT using Webb in game four is if they're up 2-1. That way they can hope to clinch the series at Wrigley with Ownings/Davis or use Webb on regular rest at home.

 

They are facing elimination in game 5 too. What does it matter if it helps them win game 4 but causes them to have a smaller chance of winning the series?

 

It's better to give yourself the best chance to win the current game and hope you can cobble something together in the next one. If you don't win this game, it doesn't matter what you have saved up for game 5 (or, in the Cubs case, what ace you have saved up for game 4 :x).

 

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

[Guest]

Webb isn't pitching on Sunday. Z is, but Webb is going in game 5 on Tuesday.

 

Hmmm. I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If the Cubs somehow won the next two games, I doubt that the D-Backs would risk their season on a rookie pitching against Zambrano, IN Chicago.

 

My guess is if the Cubs are up 2-1, Webb is pitching on Sunday. If Arizona is up 2-1, Webb pitches on Tuesday in Arizona.

 

It would be real nice for the Cubs to be up 2-1 in this series rather than down 2-1 come Sunday.

 

I think it would be a terrible decision for the Diamondbacks if they moved Webb up. He has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career, and the Diamondbacks have no real reason to move him up like the Cubs do. The difference between Micah Owings and Doug Davis is a lot smaller than the difference between Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

 

The D-Backs would be giving themselves less chance of winning the series just to give them a greater chance of winning game 4. I hope they make that decision, but I doubt they will.

 

But if the D-Backs are facing elimination, the difference between Webb on short rest versus Owning/Davis can be quite significant. Personally, the only way I see Arizona NOT using Webb in game four is if they're up 2-1. That way they can hope to clinch the series at Wrigley with Ownings/Davis or use Webb on regular rest at home.

 

They are facing elimination in game 5 too. What does it matter if it helps them win game 4 but causes them to have a smaller chance of winning the series?

 

It's better to give yourself the best chance to win the current game and hope you can cobble something together in the next one. If you don't win this game, it doesn't matter what you have saved up for game 5 (or, in the Cubs case, what ace you have saved up for game 4 :x).

 

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

It will to the manager (in reference to what I bolded).

 

The order does matter in that there is no game 5 if you don't win game 4. Sure, you've got a tougher time winning whenever Davis or Owings or whomever pitches, BUT you take the more sure thing to force the deciding game if you have the chance.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

I'm with you if just because I think Owings is their 2nd best chance to win. If the D-Backs are down 2-1, you're going to use Webb at some point. You can bring him back on 3 days rest where he'll in all likelihood pitch worse than he would on full rest, or you can give him full rest and go with a similar pitcher in game 4(Owings) that you would have in Davis.

 

Now if the D-Backs had Livan slated for game 4, I could understand cause Livan is the D-Backs' Marquis.

[CubColtPacer]

Webb isn't pitching on Sunday. Z is, but Webb is going in game 5 on Tuesday.

 

Hmmm. I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If the Cubs somehow won the next two games, I doubt that the D-Backs would risk their season on a rookie pitching against Zambrano, IN Chicago.

 

My guess is if the Cubs are up 2-1, Webb is pitching on Sunday. If Arizona is up 2-1, Webb pitches on Tuesday in Arizona.

 

It would be real nice for the Cubs to be up 2-1 in this series rather than down 2-1 come Sunday.

 

I think it would be a terrible decision for the Diamondbacks if they moved Webb up. He has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career, and the Diamondbacks have no real reason to move him up like the Cubs do. The difference between Micah Owings and Doug Davis is a lot smaller than the difference between Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

 

The D-Backs would be giving themselves less chance of winning the series just to give them a greater chance of winning game 4. I hope they make that decision, but I doubt they will.

 

But if the D-Backs are facing elimination, the difference between Webb on short rest versus Owning/Davis can be quite significant. Personally, the only way I see Arizona NOT using Webb in game four is if they're up 2-1. That way they can hope to clinch the series at Wrigley with Ownings/Davis or use Webb on regular rest at home.

 

They are facing elimination in game 5 too. What does it matter if it helps them win game 4 but causes them to have a smaller chance of winning the series?

 

It's better to give yourself the best chance to win the current game and hope you can cobble something together in the next one. If you don't win this game, it doesn't matter what you have saved up for game 5 (or, in the Cubs case, what ace you have saved up for game 4 :x).

 

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

It will to the manager (in reference to what I bolded).

 

The order does matter in that there is no game 5 if you don't win game 4. Sure, you've got a tougher time winning whenever Davis or Owings or whomever pitches, BUT you take the more sure thing to force the deciding game if you have the chance.

 

Yeah, I agree that it will to the manager. The D-Backs might get desperate and pitch Webb game 4. I hope they do because that just makes it more likely the Cubs will win the series.

[Wilson A2000]

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Nothing much. Just an old hat. He isn't in Klein/Tavarez territory.

[wekse]

if he was doctoring the ball, i hope his head falls off.

[Tracer Bullet]

Webb isn't pitching on Sunday. Z is, but Webb is going in game 5 on Tuesday.

 

Hmmm. I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If the Cubs somehow won the next two games, I doubt that the D-Backs would risk their season on a rookie pitching against Zambrano, IN Chicago.

 

My guess is if the Cubs are up 2-1, Webb is pitching on Sunday. If Arizona is up 2-1, Webb pitches on Tuesday in Arizona.

 

It would be real nice for the Cubs to be up 2-1 in this series rather than down 2-1 come Sunday.

 

I think it would be a terrible decision for the Diamondbacks if they moved Webb up. He has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career, and the Diamondbacks have no real reason to move him up like the Cubs do. The difference between Micah Owings and Doug Davis is a lot smaller than the difference between Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

 

The D-Backs would be giving themselves less chance of winning the series just to give them a greater chance of winning game 4. I hope they make that decision, but I doubt they will.

 

But if the D-Backs are facing elimination, the difference between Webb on short rest versus Owning/Davis can be quite significant. Personally, the only way I see Arizona NOT using Webb in game four is if they're up 2-1. That way they can hope to clinch the series at Wrigley with Ownings/Davis or use Webb on regular rest at home.

 

They are facing elimination in game 5 too. What does it matter if it helps them win game 4 but causes them to have a smaller chance of winning the series?

 

It's better to give yourself the best chance to win the current game and hope you can cobble something together in the next one. If you don't win this game, it doesn't matter what you have saved up for game 5 (or, in the Cubs case, what ace you have saved up for game 4 :x).

 

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

Why is Webb pitching well in Game 5 a "known" - he's never had a bad game on an extra day of rest?

 

If Webb pitching on short rest in Game 4 will (certainly or VERY likely) result in a bad outing and/or loss, then you save him for Game 5. That would be true if the Dbacks were thinking of pitching him tonight. But I don't think that's nearly the case. Especially since the alternative is an extra day of rest - which, in some cases, messes up a pitcher as much as short rest. Is he more likely to pitch well on 5 days rest than 3? If he's never pitched on 3 days rest, how can you possibly know (or even have an educated guess)?

 

I have to figure a team would rather have their ace in a must-win Game 4 and their #2 in a must-win Game 5 than their #4 in a must-win Game 4 and their ace in Game 5. Especially when your ace is the best pitcher in the league.

[daske17]

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Nothing much. Just an old hat. He isn't in Klein/Tavarez territory.

 

Wowsa, would you look at the beak on Webb! I'm surprised his nose wasn't wearing a hat!

[CubColtPacer]

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

I'm with you if just because I think Owings is their 2nd best chance to win. If the D-Backs are down 2-1, you're going to use Webb at some point. You can bring him back on 3 days rest where he'll in all likelihood pitch worse than he would on full rest, or you can give him full rest and go with a similar pitcher in game 4(Owings) that you would have in Davis.

 

Now if the D-Backs had Livan slated for game 4, I could understand cause Livan is the D-Backs' Marquis.

 

Agreed with everything, especially the last point. If you're replacing Livan, it's entirely different, because he's not nearly as good as Owings on the mound or at the plate.

[minnesotacubsfan]

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Nothing much. Just an old hat. He isn't in Klein/Tavarez territory.

 

Wowsa, would you look at the beak on Webb! I'm surprised his nose wasn't wearing a hat!

 

I dont see "the spot"

[CubColtPacer]

Webb isn't pitching on Sunday. Z is, but Webb is going in game 5 on Tuesday.

 

Hmmm. I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. If the Cubs somehow won the next two games, I doubt that the D-Backs would risk their season on a rookie pitching against Zambrano, IN Chicago.

 

My guess is if the Cubs are up 2-1, Webb is pitching on Sunday. If Arizona is up 2-1, Webb pitches on Tuesday in Arizona.

 

It would be real nice for the Cubs to be up 2-1 in this series rather than down 2-1 come Sunday.

 

I think it would be a terrible decision for the Diamondbacks if they moved Webb up. He has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career, and the Diamondbacks have no real reason to move him up like the Cubs do. The difference between Micah Owings and Doug Davis is a lot smaller than the difference between Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

 

The D-Backs would be giving themselves less chance of winning the series just to give them a greater chance of winning game 4. I hope they make that decision, but I doubt they will.

 

But if the D-Backs are facing elimination, the difference between Webb on short rest versus Owning/Davis can be quite significant. Personally, the only way I see Arizona NOT using Webb in game four is if they're up 2-1. That way they can hope to clinch the series at Wrigley with Ownings/Davis or use Webb on regular rest at home.

 

They are facing elimination in game 5 too. What does it matter if it helps them win game 4 but causes them to have a smaller chance of winning the series?

 

It's better to give yourself the best chance to win the current game and hope you can cobble something together in the next one. If you don't win this game, it doesn't matter what you have saved up for game 5 (or, in the Cubs case, what ace you have saved up for game 4 :x).

 

Why is it better though? Basically you're taking a known (Webb pitching well in game 5) and turning it into an unknown. Your chances of winning game 4 might be better, but if you can't win game 5 it doesn't matter.

 

Basically, you have two games left. You can pitch Webb on short rest and Davis, or Webb on regular rest and Owings. Which is more likely to get good performances out of both? IMO, the second. The order of the games doesn't matter.

 

Why is Webb pitching well in Game 5 a "known" - he's never had a bad game on an extra day of rest?

 

If Webb pitching on short rest in Game 4 will (certainly or VERY likely) result in a bad outing and/or loss, then you save him for Game 5. That would be true if the Dbacks were thinking of pitching him tonight. But I don't think that's nearly the case. Especially since the alternative is an extra day of rest - which, in some cases, messes up a pitcher as much as short rest. Is he more likely to pitch well on 5 days rest than 3? If he's never pitched on 3 days rest, how can you possibly know (or even have an educated guess)?

 

I have to figure a team would rather have their ace in a must-win Game 4 and their #2 in a must-win Game 5 than their #4 in a must-win Game 4 and their ace in Game 5. Especially when your ace is the best pitcher in the league.

 

Their #4 is a more effective player then their #2. When you combine their pitching and hitting this season, Owings has been a lot better than Davis.

[Wilson A2000]

It looked a little worse on tv

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I dont see "the spot"

 

that's why the chicks don't like you

[minnesotacubsfan]

I dont see "the spot"

 

that's why the chicks don't like you

 

:(

 

 

and here all this time I thought it was my terets

[SouthSideRyan]

It looked a little worse on tv

 

His nose?

[CuseCubFan69]

I'd put junk on my shoe laces like the closer did. Tie my shoes, yeah right. No body thinks twice when you have to "tie" your shoes.

[Roast]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/KingJME/Webb.jpg

 

Last night it looked like the spot was in the area i circled. It really doesnt look like anything, though.

[Roast]

I'd put junk on my shoe laces like the closer did. Tie my shoes, yeah right. No body thinks twice when you have to "tie" your shoes.

 

Until you do it before every pitch.

[minnesotacubsfan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/KingJME/Webb.jpg

 

Last night it looked like the spot was in the area i circled. It really doesnt look like anything, though.

 

ic

[CubmanPi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/KingJME/Webb.jpg

 

Last night it looked like the spot was in the area i circled. It really doesnt look like anything, though.

 

My school blocks photobucket - is there any way you could host this pic elsewhere as well? I didn't notice anything last night and am curious to see what it looked like. Thanks.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

My school blocks photobucket - is there any way you could host this pic elsewhere as well? I didn't notice anything last night and am curious to see what it looked like. Thanks.

 

I pm'd ya

 

 

i dont know where else to host it, but I can email it to you

[Roast]

PICTURE

 

Last night it looked like the spot was in the area i circled. It really doesnt look like anything, though.

 

My school blocks photobucket - is there any way you could host this pic elsewhere as well? I didn't notice anything last night and am curious to see what it looked like. Thanks.

http://a355.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/45/l_e346b3632680e83c7674aa691fc93442.jpg

 

This better?

[CubmanPi]

Got the pic, thanks - It's pretty hard to see, and the only thing that really sticks out is how much I'd like to wipe that ish-eating grin off his face. With a baseball bat.

[Roast]

Actually, now that i look at it, look right in the center of that circle i drew...there is definitely a dark spot.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Actually, now that i look at it, look right in the center of that circle i drew...there is definitely a dark spot.

 

ys there is