NLDS: Gm 1 Cubs (Z!) @ DBacks (Webb), 9:07pm, TBS, WGN Radio

[Guest]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Howry in to pitch for the CUBS

[Wilson A2000]

Fred. Please tell me how good Lilly was after a Cubs loss. He was Really good right?

 

9-1

[Magnetic Curses]

Just not the Cubs night.

 

you should have recognized this when they announced that the dbacks would be their opponents. they are the luckiest team in mlb history, hands down. i don't think any team has ever won 90 games while allowing more runs than scored.

[Guest]

How some of you are blaming LOU for putting our BEST LIGHTS OUT reliever in the game is beyond me.

 

It's absolutely ridiculous. It's not like he went to Eyre. He went to our BEST guy out of the pen. Our RIVERA.

 

Christ. The stupidity is overwhelming. Can we blame our PLAYERS for once? It's not like Lou put us in a bad situation. he put our best in.

 

No. The Cubs' best was already in the game.

 

Zambrano wasn't even the team's best starter this year.

 

Who cares what he's done this season? He was clearly on tonight.

[erik316wttn]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

Lou pulling Z had nothing to do with those hard hit balls and you know it. If Z stays in this game could still very well be tied.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I just find it incredibly amusing how the crowd favorite skates by, but the Manager (who always gets all the blame and no credit on EVERY team) gets the hanging. Carry on.

 

dude. seriously. yes marmol failed. but YES LOU BRAINFARTED FIRST

 

 

it was Lou tonite.

[Mizzou]

I just find it incredibly amusing how the crowd favorite skates by, but the Manager (who always gets all the blame and no credit on EVERY team) gets the hanging. Carry on.

That's cause the manager removed the ace who was dominating after 85 pitches.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

well if they could get to marmol with their 678 hitters why cant we get to valverde with our 678?

 

:pukel:

[Roast]

i want to swallow nails...

i would seriously rather put a nail in my nugget pouch then watch that half inning again.. two warning track outs and a off balance throw from third base

 

:-s

 

 

Ouch.

[rocket]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

well, we're not working with a 162 game schedule anymore. we need to win 3 out of 5, i'm not comfortable counting on line drives to drop to reverse our luck.

[kente777]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

I cautiously share your optimism. We've got to win tomorrow though. Don't want to be down 2-0

[CubsBears29]

Let's end the debate right now.

 

- Replacing Z with the guy, who was your BP "ACE" in the reg. season? RIGHT move

 

- Taking Z out when he did? WRONG move

 

But since Lou decided to forego a possible short-series WIN in the opening game, on the opponent's turf, to play for a game that might not happen, we are already in a "MUST WIN" situation tomorrow night.

 

So, it was a right & wrong move all at the same time... unfortunately, as the AZ 7th unfolded, it turned into a VERY BAD decision.

 

Except the bad pitch that led to Drew's HR, Z got the shaft so hard tonight. Unfair. :cry:

[Sarcastic]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

Lou pulling Z had nothing to do with those hard hit balls and you know it. If Z stays in this game could still very well be tied.

 

And if he had pinch hit for Zambrano in the top of the sixth, it might be 5-3. Who knows. It was a reasonable, if not great, move to put in the best reliever on the team.

[A New Era]

Fine. I'm done arguing. Lou didn't pitch and he put our best reliever in. Guy's gotta get outs. It's Marmol's fault.

 

Yes, Marmol sucked. And yes, Lou put his best reliever in. But I don't see hte need to put Marmol in in this situation.

 

Saving Z for game 4?

[badger1679666666]

I just find it incredibly amusing how the crowd favorite skates by, but the Manager (who always gets all the blame and no credit on EVERY team) gets the hanging. Carry on.

That's cause the manager removed the ace who was dominating after 85 pitches.

 

For another ace with a .168 BAA and a 1.69 era with 0 runs in his last 23 outings. Like I said we lose this because of not having enough pitching in the 12th by pulling Z - it's on Lou. This one is 90% on Marmol.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Drew struck out swinging

[Magnetic Curses]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

well, we're not working with a 162 game schedule anymore. we need to win 3 out of 5, i'm not comfortable counting on line drives to drop to reverse our luck.

 

luck rules all in the playoffs and the dbacks have the most of it. they're my early favorites to win the ws.

[erik316wttn]

well if they could get to marmol with their 678 hitters why cant we get to valverde with our 678?

 

:pukel:

 

Yeah, that's not happening.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Fine. I'm done arguing. Lou didn't pitch and he put our best reliever in. Guy's gotta get outs. It's Marmol's fault.

 

Yes, Marmol sucked. And yes, Lou put his best reliever in. But I don't see hte need to put Marmol in in this situation.

 

Saving Z for game 4?

 

waht game 4? that isnt gauranteed

game 1 is at this point

[Guest]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

Lou pulling Z had nothing to do with those hard hit balls and you know it. If Z stays in this game could still very well be tied.

 

I'm not saying it did. Cubs pitchers have given up 3 runs in 7 innings tonight. If some of those hard hit balls by Cubs hitters drop and/or if Rammy's two fly balls carry a 10 more feet, the Cubs could have a lead right now and everybody is happy. The hard hit balls aren't going to continue to consistently find Diamondback gloves all series long.

[Roast]

this whole "anybody, any time" thing needs to end. Now. It's already annoying as hell.

[badger1679666666]

You guys can all incorrectly blame Lou for this if you want. I'm chalking this one up to bad luck. Those hard hit balls aren't going to consistently find their fielders. Eventually, they're going to drop. The Cubs have the better pitcher going tomorrow and the better pitcher going on Saturday. This series is far from over.

 

I expected the Cubs to lose this game anyway coming into the series so it's not a big deal.

 

Lou pulling Z had nothing to do with those hard hit balls and you know it. If Z stays in this game could still very well be tied.

 

And if he had pinch hit for Zambrano in the top of the sixth, it might be 5-3. Who knows. It was a reasonable, if not great, move to put in the best reliever on the team.

 

That's my whole point. Who hasn't had faith in Marmol ALL year in every outing?

[Wilson A2000]

Well Z had already doubled and just barely missed another hit

[Magnetic Curses]

well, if it's any reason to hope, valverde is probably the most hittable pitcher of the big 3 at the back of that bullpen.