Nice article on Murton

[Peoriaman]

Damn, Pman, I didn't realize that people disliked you so.

 

I don't really have any problem with your mod'ing on the IB, and wherever you are now.

 

The problem is that people say "even slightly critical", but what they actually meant was over the top screaming and swearing. These people have less control than a coke addict with tourette syndrome (sp?).

 

I've admired your sources and links since I joined the community, so don't let these ridiculous people influence you. Probably all Fowa fans anyhow. :lol:

 

That said, Murton played a nice role in last night's game, and hopefully he's back in action. His second hit was against a righty, so that's cool.

 

I'll never understand the backlash against Murton these days. There are people that cannot handle the fact that there is a popular player who will do well for us, given a chance, I suppose.

 

He's gotta cut those errors out, though. No more excuses for Lou.

 

 

Thanks Blue, the main thing I try to do on the board I moderate is eliminate personal attacks and ask people to follow the rules. What satisfaction is there in hammering some poster on a message board?

 

As for Murton, I have always had high expectations of him as I really like his skills. Here is to hoping that he has a great last month. :)

[Tracer Bullet]

Matt Murton's post ASB line is .294/.351/.515 for an 866 OPS, which exactly matches Lee's and is 5 points below Ramirez.

 

And just b/c I want to...take out his 1/9 PHs since the ASB:

 

.322/.385/.576

 

I'm just saying.

[NewUserName]

Is it just me or has Murton really been filling out recently? He looks about 20 lbs heavier than last year.

[NewUserName]

I didnt see todays game. Was there a good reason that Piniella didnt play Murton over Monroe today? I would certainly understand if Monroe was really hitting well and Murton wasnt but that is not the case. Just wondering.

[Keener98]

I didnt see todays game. Was there a good reason that Piniella didnt play Murton over Monroe today? I would certainly understand if Monroe was really hitting well and Murton wasnt but that is not the case. Just wondering.

 

Monroe is a veteran no more explanation needed.

[Careless]

I didnt see todays game. Was there a good reason that Piniella didnt play Murton over Monroe today? I would certainly understand if Monroe was really hitting well and Murton wasnt but that is not the case. Just wondering.

Surely you didn't think we traded for Monroe for him to not hit before Murton?

[NewUserName]

I didnt see todays game. Was there a good reason that Piniella didnt play Murton over Monroe today? I would certainly understand if Monroe was really hitting well and Murton wasnt but that is not the case. Just wondering.

Surely you didn't think we traded for Monroe for him to not hit before Murton?

 

 

I am positive that there were some in the transaction thread who said Monroe was replacing Pagan. I know most were not that naive but there were some.

[Keener98]

And Murton does it again. Can we lock this ridiculous thread?

[Tomarken]

Matt Murton

[Peoriaman]

Murton is really getting some big hits. Congrats to Matt!

[CubmanPi]

I wonder if Lou is convinced that it's time to give more than a start and 2 PHs a week.

[Keener98]

I wonder if Lou is convinced that it's time to give more than a start and 2 PHs a week.

 

Doubt it Floyds a veteran who's been there. Young kids forget how to play baseball in sept, thats why you need veterans

[Peoriaman]

I would give Matt some starts, and see how he does.

[CUBZ99]

I wonder if Lou is convinced that it's time to give more than a start and 2 PHs a week.

 

Doubt it Floyds a veteran who's been there. Young kids forget how to play baseball in sept, thats why you need veterans

 

On the radio pre-game Lou stated that Floyd needed to step it up and start hitting. I thought it was interesting that Lou would single him out. Floyd had some opportunities to drive in some runs today and failed. Interestingly enough, as soon as Lou had a chance, he pinch hit for Floyd and Murton came through. I wouldn't be suprised to see Piniella give Murton a shot to play more down the stretch. Lou has proven that he will go with the hot hand (Theriot, Fontenot, Ward (to some extent)) at times.

[abuck1220]

floyd's slugging a robust .363 post-ASB. ankiel's outhomering him on the season.

 

do the cubs even have double digit homeruns from lefties this year?

[Brian]

do the cubs even have double digit homeruns from lefties this year?

 

Floyd - 5

Jones - 5

Fontenot - 3

Ward - 2

Pie - 2

Marquis - 1

 

and how many of Pagan, Hill & Z's 8 HR came left handed.

 

So double digits but Floyd and Jones should have more than that alone.

[Keener98]

I wonder if Lou is convinced that it's time to give more than a start and 2 PHs a week.

 

Doubt it Floyds a veteran who's been there. Young kids forget how to play baseball in sept, thats why you need veterans

 

On the radio pre-game Lou stated that Floyd needed to step it up and start hitting. I thought it was interesting that Lou would single him out. Floyd had some opportunities to drive in some runs today and failed. Interestingly enough, as soon as Lou had a chance, he pinch hit for Floyd and Murton came through. I wouldn't be suprised to see Piniella give Murton a shot to play more down the stretch. Lou has proven that he will go with the hot hand (Theriot, Fontenot, Ward (to some extent)) at times.

 

Well its about time he called FLoyd out. Floyd has been allowed to suck all year, and continue to get playing time, while Lou has benched Jones, Izturis, Murton, etc.... when they struggled. FLoyd is not an everyday starter anymore plain and simple. Murton should be starting against all lefties, and he should also be starting against rightys.

 

Since the break Murton is now OPS'ing 935 whereas FLoyd is at a robust 701 since the break, and for the year its 741 compared to Murtons is 761. So for all the talk of Murtons struggles this year he has been better than Floyd, but yet Floyd keeps on starting, its ridiculous, and really needs to stop.

[Peoriaman]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

[Fred Hornkohl]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

Which one gets the occaisional "clutch" hit to drive in a runner ?

 

04/02 - 09/02      BDI  LOB   RBI%
Floyd               34  120  0.221
Murton              11   82  0.118

CUBS               474 1999  0.192

[Magnetic Curses]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

what are the sample sizes here? comparing murton's handful of plate appearances to floyd's wealth of them doesn't exactly paint an accurate picture.

[Peoriaman]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

what are the sample sizes here? comparing murton's handful of plate appearances to floyd's wealth of them doesn't exactly paint an accurate picture.

 

 

190 ab's for Murton and 243 for Floyd.

[Magnetic Curses]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

what are the sample sizes here? comparing murton's handful of plate appearances to floyd's wealth of them doesn't exactly paint an accurate picture.

 

 

190 ab's for Murton and 243 for Floyd.

 

that's what i get for speaking without looking.

[Fred Hornkohl]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

what are the sample sizes here? comparing murton's handful of plate appearances to floyd's wealth of them doesn't exactly paint an accurate picture.

 

 

190 ab's for Murton and 243 for Floyd.

 

These are season totals, not rightie splits......

 

04/02 - 09/02      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP
Murton            190   27   52    9    0    6   79   17   21   29  0.274  0.346  0.416  0.762  0.297
Floyd             244   32   69    9    0    5   93   39   24   42  0.283  0.354  0.381  0.735  0.325

[Keener98]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

Floyd OPS 735 and Murton OPS is 723 against rightys on the year. Like you said there is a slight advantage for Floyd, but Floyd has done that with consistent starting time against righties, whereas Murtons ab's against righties is sporadic. Murton since coming back up has shown very good power, against righties and lefties, he should be the guy starting for us down the stretch run. The Floyd experiment should be over, except for late in game PH situations.

[Keener98]

floyd 354/380/282

 

murton 333/390/254

 

on-base/ slugging/ BA

 

These are the season stats against righties. Now, before you get all hot and bothered, I would vote for Murton to play in front of Floyd, but their season stats shows Floyd with a slight edge against righties. My point is Murton's season stats alone don't make him the starter.

 

As far as defense, both are below average. Murton is clearly faster.

 

what are the sample sizes here? comparing murton's handful of plate appearances to floyd's wealth of them doesn't exactly paint an accurate picture.

 

 

190 ab's for Murton and 243 for Floyd.

 

These are season totals, not rightie splits......

 

04/02 - 09/02      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP
Murton            190   27   52    9    0    6   79   17   21   29  0.274  0.346  0.416  0.762  0.297
Floyd             244   32   69    9    0    5   93   39   24   42  0.283  0.354  0.381  0.735  0.325

 

Fred, do you have those splits since Murton came back up against righties?