It was just one pitch

[Faceman]

Why is it when the Cards lose to us we begin hearing an entirely inordinate amount of excuse-making coming from StL?

 

Seems like when we lose to them, we generally take our medicine and move on. What's with the StL whining and crying?

 

Saying that the game was lost on one bad pitch to Ward is "excuse-making?"

 

Sure Reyes probably wasn't perfect other than that. The fact remains that the Cubs have scored a bunch of runs on very few hits in the series. Why so overly sensitive about the way the Cards media is scrutinizing Reyes' start? Who cares?

 

I think this illustrates the difference between being a player/fan of the Cardinals and being a player/fan of the Cubs. had the roles been reversed, the Cubs media would be absolutely trashing the Cubs for that loss (and the national media would give no mention of the bad call whatsoever).

 

but I think what you are also missing is it is not only the media making those comments, it's LaRussa.

 

 

as for how many runs have been scored vs. how many hits, that's fricken baseball, and that's sports in general. should we get into how many of the Cardinals hits yesterday were weakly hit but found holes and how many Cubs outs were hard hit atem' balls?

 

 

I usually read through the Cub game threads at work because I enjoy seeing good baseball fans discussing a day game - but recently it's been kinda deep in there, IMO. Not used to seeing that on this board.

 

 

Cause we haven't been in a "pennant race" for 3 years. When emotion and fandom comes into play, you get a lot less intelligent talk and a lot more Ron Santo.(And there's nothing wrong with that, it's a lot more fun to have that much interest in a game rather than counting down til Dusty gets fired, and asking just how he can play Macias that much.) Adding the Cardinals into the mix only multiplies things.

 

Agreed on all counts. I'm sure you guys don't want it - but if the Cards fall out of the race again (as they should) I will be rooting for you guys to get some playoff success. It is certainly overdue. There is nothing better than meaningful baseball in September / October.

 

Just be careful of Marquis - he can bite you in the rear awfully fast.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why is it when the Cards lose to us we begin hearing an entirely inordinate amount of excuse-making coming from StL?

 

Seems like when we lose to them, we generally take our medicine and move on. What's with the StL whining and crying?

 

Saying that the game was lost on one bad pitch to Ward is "excuse-making?"

 

Sure Reyes probably wasn't perfect other than that. The fact remains that the Cubs have scored a bunch of runs on very few hits in the series. Why so overly sensitive about the way the Cards media is scrutinizing Reyes' start? Who cares?

 

I think this illustrates the difference between being a player/fan of the Cardinals and being a player/fan of the Cubs. had the roles been reversed, the Cubs media would be absolutely trashing the Cubs for that loss (and the national media would give no mention of the bad call whatsoever).

 

but I think what you are also missing is it is not only the media making those comments, it's LaRussa.

 

 

as for how many runs have been scored vs. how many hits, that's fricken baseball, and that's sports in general. should we get into how many of the Cardinals hits yesterday were weakly hit but found holes and how many Cubs outs were hard hit atem' balls?

 

 

I usually read through the Cub game threads at work because I enjoy seeing good baseball fans discussing a day game - but recently it's been kinda deep in there, IMO. Not used to seeing that on this board.

 

 

Cause we haven't been in a "pennant race" for 3 years. When emotion and fandom comes into play, you get a lot less intelligent talk and a lot more Ron Santo.(And there's nothing wrong with that, it's a lot more fun to have that much interest in a game rather than counting down til Dusty gets fired, and asking just how he can play Macias that much.) Adding the Cardinals into the mix only multiplies things.

 

Agreed on all counts. I'm sure you guys don't want it - but if the Cards fall out of the race again (as they should) I will be rooting for you guys to get some playoff success. It is certainly overdue. There is nothing better than meaningful baseball in September / October.

 

Just be careful of Marquis - he can bite you in the rear awfully fast.

 

I'm really hoping he'd become the long man should there be the oppurtunity. Though you never know what veteran clutchness can mean to a manager.

[CubmanPi]

Why is it when the Cards lose to us we begin hearing an entirely inordinate amount of excuse-making coming from StL?

 

Seems like when we lose to them, we generally take our medicine and move on. What's with the StL whining and crying?

 

Saying that the game was lost on one bad pitch to Ward is "excuse-making?"

 

Sure Reyes probably wasn't perfect other than that. The fact remains that the Cubs have scored a bunch of runs on very few hits in the series. Why so overly sensitive about the way the Cards media is scrutinizing Reyes' start? Who cares?

The Cubs also handily outhit Houston while getting swept out of town. That happens, and it goes both ways. The Cubs pitchers have also issued plenty of innings in which the opponent notches more runs than hits. When you walk and hit guys and have errors happening in the defense behind you, that happens.

[mul21]

Have to say though, respek to LaRussa for blowing off the question about the missed call at home. Said it was one run, so big deal if they called him safe we still lose 5-4.

 

I forgot to mention that - thanks. LaRussa gets such a bad rap from opposing and even home team fans that it is nice to see him defended occasionally.

 

The reason LaRussa gets such a bad rap is his paranoid/genius act. He always thinks everyone in the press has a hidden agenda they're trying to pursue and it just comes of as arrogant and smart-assed to hit your pitcher 8th. I think a lot of his attitude/personality comes fromthe fact that he's a lawyer and has a massive ego that needs to be stroked.

 

Now with all that said, he's definitely one of the better managers MLB has ever seen. He has had good teams, but he does seem to get as much out of them as is possible.

[Soul]

Have to say though, respek to LaRussa for blowing off the question about the missed call at home. Said it was one run, so big deal if they called him safe we still lose 5-4.

 

I forgot to mention that - thanks. LaRussa gets such a bad rap from opposing and even home team fans that it is nice to see him defended occasionally.

 

The reason LaRussa gets such a bad rap is his paranoid/genius act. He always thinks everyone in the press has a hidden agenda they're trying to pursue and it just comes of as arrogant and smart-assed to hit your pitcher 8th. I think a lot of his attitude/personality comes fromthe fact that he's a lawyer and has a massive ego that needs to be stroked.

 

Now with all that said, he's definitely one of the better managers MLB has ever seen. He has had good teams, but he does seem to get as much out of them as is possible.

 

I actually don't mind LaRussa much. But he does seem to say some strange things. "It's one pitch" is certainly one of them, if he is the one who originated it.

 

The other that I can remember is the time he came out in the press and attacked the Cubs for playing our callups in September against a team the Cards were in a race with. It was a truly......eh? moment. First of all, our starters were horrid that year, the scrubs were probably better. But most importantly, this is what happens every year, why should the Cubs make an exception and play crappy starters in September, sacrificing our developing youngsters, just to give StL an imaginary leg up? It was a ridiculous comment.

 

But like I said, I'm a Cub fan who doesn't really hate LaRussa.