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I haven't seen this posted and I can't stand the sox but that is some feat for a power relief pitcher to get 13 2/3 perfect innings in a row.

 

He did it today and helped his cause by getting his glove on a rocket hit back at him and Dye made a good catch.

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I think they said it tied a major league record and set an AL record, but I wasn't really listening.
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His streak is more improbable than Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak. By a factor of about 10.

 

#-o Sarcasm, I hope.

 

Based on my back-of-the-envelope compuations, absolutely not.

 

You have to take into consideration that pitchers can perform at a high level for many more outs than the number of games a hitter can perform at.

 

A good hitter might play in 2,000 games in his lifetime at a high level whereas a good pitcher could pitch 2,500 innnings = 7,500 outs at a high level. Imagine if Tony Gwynn could hit .340 for 7,500 games. I'd say he could have at least tied Dimaggio's record just based on the sheer number of opportunities he'd have.

 

Hmm....now I'm thinking about running some MATLAB simulations to test out this theory.

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White Sox should have traded him at the deadline and gotten a ridiculous bounty. Whats the point of having an awesome closer if you have crappy starting pitching and an even worse bullpen?
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His streak is more improbable than Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak. By a factor of about 10.

 

#-o Sarcasm, I hope.

 

Based on my back-of-the-envelope compuations, absolutely not.

 

You have to take into consideration that pitchers can perform at a high level for many more outs than the number of games a hitter can perform at.

 

A good hitter might play in 2,000 games in his lifetime at a high level whereas a good pitcher could pitch 2,500 innnings = 7,500 outs at a high level. Imagine if Tony Gwynn could hit .340 for 7,500 games. I'd say he could have at least tied Dimaggio's record just based on the sheer number of opportunities he'd have.

 

Hmm....now I'm thinking about running some MATLAB simulations to test out this theory.

 

there is some extremely fuzzy math going on in there

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White Sox should have traded him at the deadline and gotten a ridiculous bounty. Whats the point of having an awesome closer if you have crappy starting pitching and an even worse bullpen?

 

Because they have absolutely no one else in their bullpen who can consistently get outs in the 7th or 8th, much less the 9th.

If they used Jenks to fill some of their myriad of holes, they'd end up just blowing games in the 9th with MacDougal or Thornton or whoever else.

They're an aging team with a high payroll, although some contracts are expiring (Dye after this season, Garland after next season), injury concerns (Crede, also with a contract expiring after 2008), and no significant minor-leaguers coming up. Kenny Williams has an unenviable job this offseason.

Sox fans need to enjoy their 2005 Series win (I know I would), because the window is closing rapidly on them and they could be in for some serious dark times.

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White Sox should have traded him at the deadline and gotten a ridiculous bounty. Whats the point of having an awesome closer if you have crappy starting pitching and an even worse bullpen?

 

Because they have absolutely no one else in their bullpen who can consistently get outs in the 7th or 8th, much less the 9th.

If they used Jenks to fill some of their myriad of holes, they'd end up just blowing games in the 9th with MacDougal or Thornton or whoever else.

They're an aging team with a high payroll, although some contracts are expiring (Dye after this season, Garland after next season), injury concerns (Crede, also with a contract expiring after 2008), and no significant minor-leaguers coming up. Kenny Williams has an unenviable job this offseason.

Sox fans need to enjoy their 2005 Series win (I know I would), because the window is closing rapidly on them and they could be in for some serious dark times.

 

Right, so if they have no one who can get the ball to Jenks, whats the point of having Jenks? Obviously, this season is done for them, but honestly, I don't see how the immediate future looks any brighter and it sounds like you don't either, so again, whats the point of having a good closer? Of course it all depends on what you could have gotten for him and Kenny can still trade him in the offseason. But I'm just saying that the Sox should be full on rebuilding, not half ass it. The package that Jenks can bring is probably going to be much greater than the value Jenks brings to a floundering White Sox team.

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I guess I was mistaken, but I always thought Jenks was a guy who would have a great initial impact (2-3 years) but would burn out quickly. I might still be right, but I never saw him as having the ability to record 41+ consecutive outs. That's ridiculous.

 

Because I don't think he will have a lasting career, I would have traded him in July had I been Ken Williams.

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I think if Papplebon or Rivera were doing this, ESPN would be breaking in to show all of there outings. Not even the main story in the Sox/Mariners highlight the other day.
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White Sox should have traded him at the deadline and gotten a ridiculous bounty. Whats the point of having an awesome closer if you have crappy starting pitching and an even worse bullpen?

 

Because they have absolutely no one else in their bullpen who can consistently get outs in the 7th or 8th, much less the 9th.

If they used Jenks to fill some of their myriad of holes, they'd end up just blowing games in the 9th with MacDougal or Thornton or whoever else.

They're an aging team with a high payroll, although some contracts are expiring (Dye after this season, Garland after next season), injury concerns (Crede, also with a contract expiring after 2008), and no significant minor-leaguers coming up. Kenny Williams has an unenviable job this offseason.

Sox fans need to enjoy their 2005 Series win (I know I would), because the window is closing rapidly on them and they could be in for some serious dark times.

 

Right, so if they have no one who can get the ball to Jenks, whats the point of having Jenks? Obviously, this season is done for them, but honestly, I don't see how the immediate future looks any brighter and it sounds like you don't either, so again, whats the point of having a good closer? Of course it all depends on what you could have gotten for him and Kenny can still trade him in the offseason. But I'm just saying that the Sox should be full on rebuilding, not half ass it. The package that Jenks can bring is probably going to be much greater than the value Jenks brings to a floundering White Sox team.

 

 

If the Sox could get 2 or 3 MLB-proven young players for Jenks, they should do that, but these days teams only seem to want to trade low-to-middle level prospects. Minor-league prospects are so hit-and-miss that it's hard for me to endorse trading someone who has done the job at the major-league level.

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