Bruce Levine reports: Eric Patterson will be recalled

[Guest]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

I'm with you on this, Ron.

[C.C.]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

Ironic because there are certain players who get quite a bit of PT that make mistakes consistently and still get run out there.

 

But those said players have had past success in the ML.

Edited August 6, 2007 by C.C.

[GaborBako]

I'm with you too, Ron!

 

ROFL

[StMarksCubs]

how come rapada isn't up here right now?

 

Or Piggy? How much longer can Lou tolerate the return of Felix Heredia (aka Ohman)?!

 

And seriously, someone needs to explain this E-Patt over Pie move. This is just plain weird...

[jaxxradio]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

[ConstableRabbit]

Can anyone give me a scouting report on what to expect from Patterson? Anyone know what his OF defense has been like? How good a base stealer? How fast?

[Chris]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

 

I'll buy one.

[USSoccer]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

Ironic because there are certain players who get quite a bit of PT that make mistakes consistently and still get run out there.

 

But those said players have had past success in the ML.

 

You're kdding, right?

[C.C.]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

Ironic because there are certain players who get quite a bit of PT that make mistakes consistently and still get run out there.

 

But those said players have had past success in the ML.

 

You're kdding, right?

 

I'm just speaking for Cubs management. This is what their going to say..

Edited August 6, 2007 by C.C.

[Lefty]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

 

Write it under an assumed name. You can use mine.

[C.C.]

Can anyone give me a scouting report on what to expect from Patterson? Anyone know what his OF defense has been like? How good a base stealer? How fast?

 

I concur.

[Guest]

Can anyone give me a scouting report on what to expect from Patterson? Anyone know what his OF defense has been like? How good a base stealer? How fast?

 

He's played about 3 weeks of in-game OF this season, so I'm not sure what the scouting report is. He has a good arm and should probably be able to cover a lot of ground given his athletic ability. With one offseason worth of playing and 3 weeks of games in the OF, he's going to be rather raw and make mistakes.

 

He has plus speed (not Corey speed, but plus speed) and good instincts on the base paths, though he didn't have the best SB % this season (16/23 at Iowa).

[Guest]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

 

I'll buy one.

 

Me too.

[USSoccer]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

Ironic because there are certain players who get quite a bit of PT that make mistakes consistently and still get run out there.

 

But those said players have had past success in the ML.

 

You're kdding, right?

 

I'm just speaking for Cubs management. This is what their going to say..

 

Cubs management is idiotic.

[98navigator]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

[Banedon]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

 

I'll buy one.

 

Me too.

 

I will too, but only if it has a cool cover. If the cover sucks, I'm out... 8-)

[St.Paul Cub]

Raisin, I swear when I leave this game.. I am going to write a book on some of the things that goes on behind the scenes in this game.

 

I'll buy one.

 

Me too.

 

Ditto.

 

I'm surprised it was Patterson that got the call. I guess they really feel Pie has too many things still to work on.

 

I do think that you'll see a heavy dose of Derosa in RF as I can't see Patterson being throw into the OF even if he's been working there, plus I think they want DeRosa's bat in there as much as possible with Soriano out.

 

Hopefully opens up a chance to see Murton in LF with Floyd, as Floyd has been hitting well, but watching him try to cover ground in the OF is painful.

[erik316wttn]

Would Pie and Patterson or Patterson and Pie be 1-2?

[Keener98]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

Also, its not loke FLoyd is hitting the cover off the ball, or Pagan but yet we continue to see these guys in RF over a guy like Murton.

Edited August 6, 2007 by Keener98

[inari]

It's time to playyyyy....

 

Guess that 40 man roster move!

 

No more Dopirak.

 

8-)

[CubColtPacer]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

Also, its not loke FLoyd is hitting the cover off the ball, or Pagan but yet we continue to see these guys in RF over a guy like Murton.

 

Theriot definitely got a second chance after his awful month. Pie got a second chance (but not a third yet).

[Soul]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

Also, its not loke FLoyd is hitting the cover off the ball, or Pagan but yet we continue to see these guys in RF over a guy like Murton.

 

So if Lou's consistent Pagan will grab some bench or worse. Because he's definitely failed.

[Keener98]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

Also, its not loke FLoyd is hitting the cover off the ball, or Pagan but yet we continue to see these guys in RF over a guy like Murton.

 

Theriot definitely got a second chance after his awful month. Pie got a second chance (but not a third yet).

 

Theriot got a 2nd chance because there was nobody other than Cesar Izturis to play over him. Pie was given sporadic AB"s and Lou is surprised he didnt play well?

[CUBZ99]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

Also, its not loke FLoyd is hitting the cover off the ball, or Pagan but yet we continue to see these guys in RF over a guy like Murton.

 

Eyre has been buried in the bullpen and Jones was buried on the bench until Pie couldn't take the CF job.

[98navigator]

I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this move. Lou is consistent with his managerial style. He is someone who doesn't tolerate failure and in Lou's mind..

 

A) Murton failed him when he droped two fly balls in April

B) Pie failed him because he couldn't hit good enough to stay in the show when given two chances this season

 

You GOTTA love a manager that doesn't give another chance to let someone "wrong a right" (note the sarcasm).

 

This isn't entirely true. Lou has given Cedeno a second chance and he's allowing Eyre and Jones the opportunity to play; one could argue that he was forced to do so by the contracts of the last two but that didn't stop him from burying JJ (and Cesar) for long stretches a few months ago.

 

On the subject of Pie, this team can't afford to allow him to hit .200. There are 52 games left in this season and Lou isn't a AAA manager. Overall, Lou has done a fine job this season and while I like Murton, I'm not going to lobby for him over any other player. I don't care who plays just as long as they are productive. It's not like Murton was hitting the cover off the ball at any point this season for the Cubs (and his defense was a problem--and it had very little to do with playing RF for the first time because he failed to make routine plays on balls that should have been in the glove).

 

Hell, we're talking about the same manager who thought Theriot wasn't a ML SS earlier in the year. Yet, he allowed Theriot to play enough to win the job fulltime.

 

When? The only players under Lou who have been given 2nd chances are proven veterans like Jones and Eyre.

 

What? Do you really think Cedeno would have been recalled if Lou didn't want him on the 25 man roster? He would have told Hendry "no way." I think being recalled after a failed attempt to stay here earlier in the year qualifies as a second chance. The Cubs could have kept Izturis to fill the bench role. Instead, they moved him and made room for their own guys.

 

I think you are confusing Lou with Dusty. Lou is going to play whomever will hit the ball without regard for tenure.