8/6 Cubs(Hill) @ Astros(Rodriguez) 7:05 P.M. CT CSN

[jjgman21]

once again, I implore this entire team to stop swinging at pitches that are nowhere near the strikezone.

[sethuel1]

Haha. Cliff didn't come within a foot of those pitches at any point in his swing.

[Schwarber Fan]

Horrible AB... I guess Cliff plays LF now and Epatt moves to 2B?

 

No Ohman or Dempster please

[98navigator]

Fielder and Braun have gone deep tonight...

 

Fielder and Braun have a combined 52 HR.

 

To get to 53 HR for the Cubs you need to combine Soriano, Ramirez, Lee, and DeRosa.

 

 

The Cubs and Brewers both have 52 losses... The problem with the Brewers is that over 46% of their offense is homerun dependent.

 

home runs are a statistic largely devoid of luck. hitting w/risp isn't.

 

That's fine but when a team (like the Brewers) can't score many runs without the benefit of homeruns it isn't an advantage. As I said, both teams have 52 losses yet, the Brewers have hit 152 homeruns to the Cubs 88.

 

and the brewers have scored a significant amount more runs than the cubs have, what's your point?

 

Yes, but obviously it doesn't tell the real story of their offense because they have the same number of losses as the Cubs and have played 2 more games (thus they have 2 more wins). It's obvious that they have had more lopsided victories but a win is a win (whether by 10 runs or 1 run).

 

once again, you've completely forgotten about pitching.

 

Once again? I've already pointed out that their pitching isn't as good as the Cubs.

[TMan92]

1 more slider and cliff is done.

 

Is that you Steve Stone?

[sherwood921]

Koyie Hill is the only one left on the bench, no?

[badger1679666666]

Pedro Cerano er.. Cliff Floyd missed 3 sliders by about a total of 5 feet.

[aerosmith21]

Floyd your a piece of frick @##$ go to the bench where you belong. Worthless representation of a baseball player.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

wow, lefties have no chance if Lidge can control the slider

[rickrolled]

go back to NY, Cliff, and never come back

[kylescubs23]

I guess if you hit for Ronny you have to swing like him.

[Guest]

It's obvious that they've needed them because their pitching staff isn't as good as the Cubs'. I'm not saying I wouldn't want the Cubs to hit more homers I just think using the Brewers as an example for so called Cubs deficiencies is silly. The both have 52 losses and the Cubs have played 2 fewer games.

 

The person used the Brewers as an example because he was using specific players. Tell me you wouldn't rather have Braun and Fielder's production on this team.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I was indifferent to the Cliff Floyd signing, but I expected a LOT more than this out of him. He has always been a good hitter when reasonably healthy, and this year he has been reasonably healthy, so what happened?

[C.C.]

1 more slider and cliff is done.

 

Is that you Steve Stone?

 

HAHa!

[Exile on Waveland]

Fielder and Braun have gone deep tonight...

 

Fielder and Braun have a combined 52 HR.

 

To get to 53 HR for the Cubs you need to combine Soriano, Ramirez, Lee, and DeRosa.

 

 

The Cubs and Brewers both have 52 losses... The problem with the Brewers is that over 46% of their offense is homerun dependent.

 

How's that a problem?

 

 

It's a problem because they aren't able to score enough runs, on most days, to win when they don't hit homers. It's not a well rounded offense.

 

The way some people are talking, the Brewers should have fewer loses and more wins. They've out homered the Cubs by 64 (and two players combine for 52).

I think what you are failing to grasp is that each HR equals at least 1 run. Being "well rounded" is a non-sequiter as is the number of losses each team has. Give me a team of HR hitters any day.

 

The 64 more homers they've hit haven't given them much of an advantage in the standings.

 

Um, pitching?

[cubbieblue12]

I don't understand why its so hard for our hitters to lay off that pitch in the dirt. they've been swinging at it all night.

[badger1679666666]

WOW **** YOU CLIFF

 

Were'nt you warned about this yesterday?

[98navigator]

Fielder and Braun have gone deep tonight...

 

Fielder and Braun have a combined 52 HR.

 

To get to 53 HR for the Cubs you need to combine Soriano, Ramirez, Lee, and DeRosa.

 

 

The Cubs and Brewers both have 52 losses... The problem with the Brewers is that over 46% of their offense is homerun dependent.

 

home runs are a statistic largely devoid of luck. hitting w/risp isn't.

 

That's fine but when a team (like the Brewers) can't score many runs without the benefit of homeruns it isn't an advantage. As I said, both teams have 52 losses yet, the Brewers have hit 152 homeruns to the Cubs 88.

 

I'll take the 0.15 runs more a game they score.

 

It's obvious that they've needed them because their pitching staff isn't as good as the Cubs'. I'm not saying I wouldn't want the Cubs to hit more homers I just think using the Brewers as an example for so called Cubs deficiencies is silly. The both have 52 losses and the Cubs have played 2 fewer games.

 

were you out in the sun all day? because you aren't listening to reason, here.

 

i would love to have the brewers offense, it would mean an easy last 2 months of the season.

 

nice insult. No, I wasn't

[Bruno7481]

Floyd looked bad on that at bat, but reading some of these responses is hilarious.

 

Would love to either see people tell these things to Floyd's face or actually step in against lidge.

 

Is funny though.

Edited August 7, 2007 by Bruno7481

[C.C.]

Alright W(alk)uertz.

[Schwarber Fan]

Floyd in RF, DeRosa to 2nd

[Omar]

Michael Wuertz Vs. Houston Astros

                    **PA**  AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP G_miss YR_miss
+-----------------+-------+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+-------+
Lance Berkman        10     8   1  0  0  0   2   2   3  .125  .300  .125  .425   0   0   1   0   0                
Craig Biggio          9     8   0  0  0  0   0   0   3  .000  .000  .000  .000   1   0   0   0   0                
Carlos Lee            9     8   1  0  0  1   1   1   2  .125  .222  .500  .722   0   0   1   0   0                
Brad Ausmus           6     4   1  0  0  0   2   1   2  .250  .400  .250  .650   1   0   0   0   0                
Jason Lane            4     3   0  0  0  0   2   0   1  .000  .000  .000  .000   0   1   0   0   1                
Chris Burke           3     2   0  0  0  0   0   1   2  .000  .333  .000  .333   0   0   0   0   0                
Orlando Palmeiro      3     2   1  1  0  0   3   0   0  .500  .500 1.000 1.500   1   0   0   0   0                
Mike Lamb             2     2   1  1  0  0   0   0   0  .500  .500 1.000 1.500   0   0   0   0   0                
Mark Loretta          2     2   1  1  0  0   0   0   0  .500  .500 1.000 1.500   0   0   0   0   0                
Ty Wigginton          2     2   0  0  0  0   0   0   1  .000  .000  .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
Eric Bruntlett        1     1   1  1  0  0   1   0   0 1.000 1.000 2.000 3.000   0   0   0   0   0                
Wandy Rodriguez       1     1   1  0  0  0   0   0   0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000   0   0   0   0   0                
Luke Scott            1     0   0  0  0  0   0   1   0       1.000               0   0   0   0   0                

[Exile on Waveland]

I was indifferent to the Cliff Floyd signing, but I expected a LOT more than this out of him. He has always been a good hitter when reasonably healthy, and this year he has been reasonably healthy, so what happened?

 

I was against the signing only because I pretty much knew it was going to cost Murton a lot of playing time. Maybe not this much, but still. People said it wouldn't, but I saw this coming a mile away. I also would've expected more production from Floyd; he hasn't been good.

[E.J.]

I was indifferent to the Cliff Floyd signing, but I expected a LOT more than this out of him. He has always been a good hitter when reasonably healthy, and this year he has been reasonably healthy, so what happened?

 

He's well past his prime. That's what happened.

[Careless]

wiggington is trying to continue the trend from last inning. damn, he passed on a pitch in the dirt.