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8/1 Phillies (Moyer) @ Cubs (Hill) 7:05 CT, CSN

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Bruno7481 ACL Cubs

Bruno7481

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Hill's not getting much down below chest level.

 

He's been leaving pitches up in the zone with great frequency lately.

 

Wonderful, implosion in progress.

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Well, I don't necessarily think it's angst so much as it is just loss of focus.

 

But yes, a slow pitcher definitely hurts themselves defensively (more so than runs being scored for him).

 

Prove it.

 

Haha, nothing in that statement needs to be proved. Defenders flat out despise slow pitchers and tend to not make as many great plays behind them.

 

If this is "definitely" true it will be rather easily proved.

 

 

Is that the only response you can ever come up with, "prove it"?

 

How about this...how about you prove to me that it isn't true, then we can talk.

 

 

prove to me that unicorns don't exist.

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I don't need statistics to prove to me what I know to be an effect on pitcher's after playing for 20 years as an amateur and professional.

 

Joe Morgan everybody.

 

I'll tell you what. Pick any four pitchers who pitched in the majors for 5 or more years. I look up the game logs for the runs/game and errors/game and compare them to the data for the days when the pitcher didn't pitch. I'll run some simple descriptive and inferential statistics and see if there is a corelation between runs/scored and errors/game.

 

If I find that there are no data that support your conclusion you ban yourself from every posting on here. If there is a corelation I will seek your forgivness and never darken the door of NSBB again.

 

Deal?

 

Fortunately for him, even if there is correlation he's not wrong. What you would be doing wouldn't even be relevant. It wouldn't prove anything .... just that when there are more errors there are more runs scored. He didn't say anything against that.

 

No. He said that a pitcher who pitches slow and throws a lot of ball (i.e., nibbler) a) has fewer runs scored per game for him and b) has more errors (on his team) when he pitches compared to other pitchers on his team.

 

But thanks for irrelevent commentary.

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