PTBNL

[Alfonso Soriano]

Any word on who the PTBNL is from the Cesar Izturis deal to Pittsburgh and a question here. How long does a team have to name the PTBNL?

[JimSorgi]

I don't know and I don't really care that much.

[Alfonso Soriano]

Well I know Jack Wilson was mentioned but I haven't heard anything on it since the day it happened.

[NCCubFan]

If there was any news it undoubtedly would have been posted here. And I believe it's 6 months allowed to complete a trade.

[Shilzzz]

i am assuming this has to do with the izturis trade? :lol:

[Electron Blue]

i am assuming this has to do with the izturis trade? :lol:

 

you know what happens when you assume . . .

[NCCubFan]

i am assuming this has to do with the izturis trade? :lol:

Read the first post in this thread and there's no need to assume.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i am assuming this has to do with the izturis trade? :lol:

Read the first post in this thread and there's no need to assume.

 

I'm wondering if that has something to do with this: http://www.northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_ignore_add.gif

[NCCubFan]

i am assuming this has to do with the izturis trade? :lol:

Read the first post in this thread and there's no need to assume.

 

I'm wondering if that has something to do with this: http://www.northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_ignore_add.gif

Could be; I hadn't thought of that.

 

So to answer the question, yes it does have to do with Izzy.

[Flames24Rulz]

Well I know Jack Wilson was mentioned but I haven't heard anything on it since the day it happened.

 

It can't be anyone on the current 25 man roster.

[Roast]

Well I know Jack Wilson was mentioned but I haven't heard anything on it since the day it happened.

Thats impossible as I'm pretty sure a PTBNL cannot be on the 25-man roster when a trade is made.

[nilodnayr]

Well I know Jack Wilson was mentioned but I haven't heard anything on it since the day it happened.

Thats impossible as I'm pretty sure a PTBNL cannot be on the 25-man roster when a trade is made.

 

Hmm, so that means it can't be anyone on the DL? My understanding is that if you are on the ML DL you are ON the 25 man roster (ie collecting ML service time), but you don't count AGAINST the 25 man roster. Also, are you sure its at the time of the trade, or just when the trade is completed. I thought it was that you couldn't trade anyone from the same league, but say you optioned a guy down to the minors and then named him as the PTBNL, technically you'd be trading him from a different league. And yes, I know, Duke is a pipe dream.

 

I miss Mark Peel.

[SouthSideRyan]

Well I know Jack Wilson was mentioned but I haven't heard anything on it since the day it happened.

Thats impossible as I'm pretty sure a PTBNL cannot be on the 25-man roster when a trade is made.

 

Hmm, so that means it can't be anyone on the DL? My understanding is that if you are on the ML DL you are ON the 25 man roster (ie collecting ML service time), but you don't count AGAINST the 25 man roster. Also, are you sure its at the time of the trade, or just when the trade is completed. I thought it was that you couldn't trade anyone from the same league, but say you optioned a guy down to the minors and then named him as the PTBNL, technically you'd be trading him from a different league. And yes, I know, Duke is a pipe dream.

 

I miss Mark Peel.

 

It can be be a player on the DL.

[Illini Iceman]

• The Cubs will get a minor-league player in the offseason from the Pirates to complete last week's deal that sent shortstop Cesar Izturis to Pittsburgh.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/479455,CST-SPT-cubnt23.article

[CubsInNC]

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Player to be Named Later

 

In many trades, one or both of the teams may agree to send "a player to be named later". A specific player must be agreed upon within six months of the initial trade; if this does not occur, the two teams may agree upon a cash amount to be sent instead. Often, the teams will agree to a list of players who can be used as the PTBNL; such an agreement would happen before the trade has been announced, and once the trade is final, the team receiving the PTBNL may take any of the players from the list within six months.

 

If a team receives a PTBNL, the player must not have been playing in the league to which he is being sent at the time of the trade (e.g. if the Red Sox receive a PTBNL, the player may not have been playing in the American League at the time of the trade). This rule was instituted after Harry Chiti was traded for himself in 1962 (he was traded from the Indians to the Mets for a PTBNL, which turned out to be himself). As a result, PTBNL's are usually minor leagues. Sometimes, teams will use players on the disabled list as players to be named so as to avoid having to get special permission from the commissioner's office.