In Praise of Charlie Marbles

[CubinNY]

I couldn't find the Carlos Marmol appreciation thread and I looked 4 pages deep.

 

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over [edit] 4 years [/edit].

 

Marmol, Howry, & Dempster make a pretty good back end of the bullpen. Dempster actually worries me the most. When Wood gets back they should be Houston dominant of the Lidge, Dotel, Wagner years.

 

Too bad they didn't have this bullpen in 2004.

 

PS> kudos to whomever came up with the Charlie Marbles nickname.

Edited July 25, 2007 by CubinNY

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

[CubinNY]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

[TruffleShuffle]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

no, i think he converted in 2002

[CubinNY]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

no, i think he converted in 2002

Well, then nevermind.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

no, i think he converted in 2002

Well, then nevermind.

 

he's still good

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

[Soriano12]

He should be traded immediatley along with Matt Karchner for Jon Garland.

[CubinNY]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

Yes, I was going on memory, which is falable obviously.

 

Anyway, I like him and his big ears when he pitches.

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

Yes, I was going on memory, which is falable obviously.

 

Anyway, I like him and his big ears when he pitches.

 

I like him a lot as well. Especially when they flashed up that K/BB ratio on the screen last night. I'm a little concerned with the heavy usage of late. Not sure if his late intro to pitching is a good thing or bad thing as far as health is concerned.

[TruffleShuffle]

too bad ryan harvey can hit the ball far on the rare occasions that he makes contact... otherwise we might've tried this with him a while ago

[NCCubFan]

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

The Cube still lists his position as catcher.

 

BTW, note who's sponsoring his page on the Cube. :D

[TruffleShuffle]

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

The Cube still lists his position as catcher.

 

BTW, note who's sponsoring his page on the Cube. :D

 

How do the Cubs spell releif?

 

Incorrectly, apparently :lol:

[dew1679666265]

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

The Cube still lists his position as catcher.

 

BTW, note who's sponsoring his page on the Cube. :D

 

Very nice, but you spelled relief wrong. :D

[NCCubFan]

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

The Cube still lists his position as catcher.

 

BTW, note who's sponsoring his page on the Cube. :D

 

How do the Cubs spell releif?

 

Incorrectly, apparently :lol:

I think that's the Cube's doing, not mine. And they also screwed up the link to NSBB, although for the life of me I can't figure out why it makes a difference. I thought letter case in URL's didn't matter; however, if the word "Forum" in the address has a small, rather than capital, F you get the dreaded "page cannot be displayed" error.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Anyway, I love this kid. To think He's only been pitching in professional baseball for a little over a year.

 

What?

Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season?

 

According to the cube he threw 64 innings in 2003 and 154 in 2004.

 

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Carlos-Marmol.shtml

Yes, I was going on memory, which is falable obviously.

 

Anyway, I like him and his big ears when he pitches.

 

I like him a lot as well. Especially when they flashed up that K/BB ratio on the screen last night. I'm a little concerned with the heavy usage of late. Not sure if his late intro to pitching is a good thing or bad thing as far as health is concerned.

 

This came up in the game thread, and a quick look showed that Marmol really hasn't been used all that heavily. He's had 30 appearances(~35 IP off the top of my head) in 58 games(which with off days is less than every other day), and recently has thrown 3 IP in the last week. It seems like more because often he finishes one inning and goes into another, but I don't see a whole lot of cause for concern.

[jersey cubs fan]

This came up in the game thread, and a quick look showed that Marmol really hasn't been used all that heavily. He's had 30 appearances(~35 IP off the top of my head) in 58 games(which with off days is less than every other day), and recently has thrown 3 IP in the last week. It seems like more because often he finishes one inning and goes into another, but I don't see a whole lot of cause for concern.

 

I shouldn't have said, "of late", but yes, he has been used all that heavily. In June he threw 15.6 innings, a pace of 93.6 innings over a full season. That's a hell of a lot for a reliever. In July he only needs 2.6 more innings to match that rate, and with 7 games remaining, it's hard to imagine him not reaching that pace again. He may be getting some rest between appearances, but he has thrown over an inning in 14 games so far. Hopefully the return of Dempster will slow it down a bit. But the way he was used from June 10 to July 19 was really risky, 40 days, 17 outings, 24 innings. And that was with the ASB. That's a pace of 77 appearances and 110 innings pitched over a full season.

 

A young guy with relatively little pitching history may be at greater risk during a stretch like that.

[YearofDaCubs]

I agree with you guys. I think Marmol is Lou's go to pitcher when the game is on the line. He has been used a lot as of late and even Lou mentioned he wanted to give him some more rest but goes to him again yesterday.

[dew1679666265]

This came up in the game thread, and a quick look showed that Marmol really hasn't been used all that heavily. He's had 30 appearances(~35 IP off the top of my head) in 58 games(which with off days is less than every other day), and recently has thrown 3 IP in the last week. It seems like more because often he finishes one inning and goes into another, but I don't see a whole lot of cause for concern.

 

I shouldn't have said, "of late", but yes, he has been used all that heavily. In June he threw 15.6 innings, a pace of 93.6 innings over a full season. That's a hell of a lot for a reliever. In July he only needs 2.6 more innings to match that rate, and with 7 games remaining, it's hard to imagine him not reaching that pace again. He may be getting some rest between appearances, but he has thrown over an inning in 14 games so far. Hopefully the return of Dempster will slow it down a bit. But the way he was used from June 10 to July 19 was really risky, 40 days, 17 outings, 24 innings. And that was with the ASB. That's a pace of 77 appearances and 110 innings pitched over a full season.

 

A young guy with relatively little pitching history may be at greater risk during a stretch like that.

 

A positive note is that Lou seems to put stock in not throwing a young pitcher too much over the course of a season. As an example, I don't think anyone in the rotation has thrown 120+ pitches this year except Z (maybe Marquis too) and guys like Hill and Marshall haven't had that many significantly over 100. He's even mentioned that he's going to try to rest Marmol for a while, so hopefully with the return of Dempster and Howry's move to the eighth, he'll be able to do so.

[JimSorgi]

I just hope we don't overwork him.