Rumor: Garland for Renteria

[Shilzzz]

According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, the Braves and White Sox have talked about swapping Edgar Renteria and Jon Garland.

It makes some sense, as the Braves have Yunel Escobar to plug in at shortstop. However, they'd likely want the White Sox to pick up some money to even up the salaries. Renteria is owed $9 million next year, while Garland is due $12 million. Even if the money could be worked out, a deal still seems like a long shot.

[JimSorgi]

I think that would be a good trade for the Braves.

[Rusch33]

Do it, Atlanta.

 

Give up one of your best offensive players for an average starter.

[pitchcs]

According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, the Braves and White Sox have talked about swapping Edgar Renteria and Jon Garland.

It makes some sense, as the Braves have Yunel Escobar to plug in at shortstop. However, they'd likely want the White Sox to pick up some money to even up the salaries. Renteria is owed $9 million next year, while Garland is due $12 million. Even if the money could be worked out, a deal still seems like a long shot.

 

 

That would not be the smartest thing for the Sox IMO.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Yeah, not quite sure what Williams' motivation is on that one.

[Shilzzz]

Do it, Atlanta.

 

Give up one of your best offensive players for an average starter.

 

Yunel Escobar is there right behind Renteria.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to the Braves message board, it was the White Sox who turned it down.

 

They pretty much are glad, too.

 

If JS is shopping Edgar, we need to get in the mix there.

 

I wonder if we could somehow use prospects to acquire a starting pitcher who we could spin to the Braves for Renteria.

 

Adding Renteria's bat would greatly improve the production we've gotten out of SS this season.

[Shilzzz]

If Renteria is out there, then would it be possible for Hendry to snag him with Marshall, + ?

[Skyballer]

According to the Braves message board, it was the White Sox who turned it down.

 

They pretty much are glad, too.

 

If JS is shopping Edgar, we need to get in the mix there.

 

I wonder if we could somehow use prospects to acquire a starting pitcher who we could spin to the Braves for Renteria.

 

Adding Renteria's bat would greatly improve the production we've gotten out of SS this season.

I think you might want Fontentot and Edgar to have a cup of tea and settle things.

[Backtobanks]

If I were the White Sox, I would be asking for Escobar or Salty instead of Renteria. Williams needs to quit thinking like the WS are contenders next year and go after prospects that will be a winning team in 2009-2010. The Sox have no chance with the Tigers, Indians, and Twins not only better, but in most cases younger than they are.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to the Braves message board, it was the White Sox who turned it down.

 

They pretty much are glad, too.

 

If JS is shopping Edgar, we need to get in the mix there.

 

I wonder if we could somehow use prospects to acquire a starting pitcher who we could spin to the Braves for Renteria.

 

Adding Renteria's bat would greatly improve the production we've gotten out of SS this season.

I think you might want Fontentot and Edgar to have a cup of tea and settle things.

 

I think if we get Renteria's 335/392/487, we can leave Fontenot a copy of a text on how to build a bridge.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If I were the White Sox, I would be asking for Escobar or Salty instead of Renteria. Williams needs to quit thinking like the WS are contenders next year and go after prospects that will be a winning team in 2009-2010. The Sox have no chance with the Tigers, Indians, and Twins not only better, but in most cases younger than they are.

 

From what I'm hearing in the national media and from friends who are strong followers of the Braves is that Escobar isn't going anywhere...and Salty is only going in a deal for a star caliber player.

[Skyballer]

According to the Braves message board, it was the White Sox who turned it down.

 

They pretty much are glad, too.

 

If JS is shopping Edgar, we need to get in the mix there.

 

I wonder if we could somehow use prospects to acquire a starting pitcher who we could spin to the Braves for Renteria.

 

Adding Renteria's bat would greatly improve the production we've gotten out of SS this season.

I think you might want Fontentot and Edgar to have a cup of tea and settle things.

 

I think if we get Renteria's 335/392/487, we can leave Fontenot a copy of a text on how to build a bridge.

And Lilly?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I can't say I'm overly keen on buying high on Renteria's BABIP-happy first half.

 

That and he's a toolbox for the nonsense he pulled on us.

[JimSorgi]

According to the Braves message board, it was the White Sox who turned it down.

 

They pretty much are glad, too.

 

If JS is shopping Edgar, we need to get in the mix there.

 

I wonder if we could somehow use prospects to acquire a starting pitcher who we could spin to the Braves for Renteria.

 

Adding Renteria's bat would greatly improve the production we've gotten out of SS this season.

I think you might want Fontentot and Edgar to have a cup of tea and settle things.

 

I think if we get Renteria's 335/392/487, we can leave Fontenot a copy of a text on how to build a bridge.

And Lilly?

I think Lilly will be okay with it when he sees Edgar's OBP.

[erik316wttn]

Wouldn't mind Renteria. I don't mind past history against us just so long as he's not a jerk with us and can produce.

 

Hell, people cheer DLee even though he put the dagger in us in Game 6.

[jyoung55]

Wouldn't mind Renteria. I don't mind past history against us just so long as he's not a jerk with us and can produce.

 

Hell, people cheer DLee even though he put the dagger in us in Game 6.

 

Granted... but DLee didn't do it with his elbow/forearm to someone's face. If were going with 03 references it'd be more like Robert Fick joining the Cubs.

[jersey cubs fan]

Wouldn't mind Renteria. I don't mind past history against us just so long as he's not a jerk with us and can produce.

 

Hell, people cheer DLee even though he put the dagger in us in Game 6.

 

Granted... but DLee didn't do it with his elbow/forearm to someone's face. If were going with 03 references it'd be more like Robert Fick joining the Cubs.

 

Except Robert Fick has always sucked and Renteria has not, so it'd be much tougher to swallow. Miguel Cabrera mocked the Alou/Bartman incident, but I wouldn't hesitate to bring him in.

[inari]

Edgar would guarantee us a division title. Too bad there's no chance of it happening.

 

To think, if we hadn't resigned Nomar after 04 we probably could've made a strong push for Edgar.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Edgar would guarantee us a division title. Too bad there's no chance of it happening.

 

To think, if we hadn't resigned Nomar after 04 we probably could've made a strong push for Edgar.

 

There's no way Renteria guarantees us the Central.

[jersey cubs fan]

Edgar would guarantee us a division title. Too bad there's no chance of it happening.

 

To think, if we hadn't resigned Nomar after 04 we probably could've made a strong push for Edgar.

 

Renteria has had such a strangely unpredictable career, I don't think he's a guarantee for anything. He started out his career nicely as a young guy, improving in his early 20's until he had a major setback season at age 25. Consecutive career years during the normal peak period, 26/27, were followed by 2 more down years, and now he's putting up back to back very good seasons. As an aging middle infielder, I'm not sure how much time he's got left where he'll be effective there, and if he ever has to move, his value will plummet. The closest thing he can guarantee, though, is not being a black hole. His worst year is no better than what the Cubs are getting now, but his other off years would at least be middle of the pack for SS productivity.

[HoopsCubs]

Yeah, not quite sure what Williams' motivation is on that one.

 

I think the motivation for KW is pretty straightforward: he has a club option on Juan Uribe in 2008 for $5M. Based on comments he's made in the press the last 2 weeks here, he doesn't want Uribe back (can't blame him as Uribe has a .606 OPS), so they'll buy him out for $300K. But the free agent class for SS looks really, really bad as you know not counting ARod. And he doesn't have an in house soluton. So, with the offensive woes they've had if they can get a bat like Renteria for 2 seasons (2008-$10M with Boston paying about $3M of it and an $11M option in 2009), he'll gladly sacrifice Garland. I can tell you from one of my sources that even KW knows Garland is vastly over-rated.

 

From Atlanta's side, they feel they need a starter to stabilize their rotation, and feel good about Escobar backfilling Renteria.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, not quite sure what Williams' motivation is on that one.

 

I think the motivation for KW is pretty straightforward: he has a club option on Juan Uribe in 2008 for $5M. Based on comments he's made in the press the last 2 weeks here, he doesn't want Uribe back (can't blame him as Uribe has a .606 OPS), so they'll buy him out for $300K. But the free agent class for SS looks really, really bad as you know not counting ARod. And he doesn't have an in house soluton. So, with the offensive woes they've had if they can get a bat like Renteria for 2 seasons (2008-$10M with Boston paying about $3M of it and an $11M option in 2009), he'll gladly sacrifice Garland. I can tell you from one of my sources that even KW knows Garland is vastly over-rated.

 

From Atlanta's side, they feel they need a starter to stabilize their rotation, and feel good about Escobar backfilling Renteria.

 

Makes a lot of sense. I have my doubts about each player. But given the teams, I'd probably rather have Renteria, to help that anemic offense. Garland is a stable innings eater who might actually look more effective in the NL. But there's something about him that makes me think he could fall apart at any time. Not physically, it's just his numbers.

[bc2k]

Garland should be untradeable because it's unknown how serious his injury is.

 

A few starts ago he got lit up for the worst start of his career, and many believe it's due to the "knot" in his pitching shoulder acting up. He hasn't been much better since that start. That should be a red flag for teams interested in trading for him.

 

I do understand why Ken Williams would want to trade him though, being as he traded the injured Mike Sirotka and Freddy Garcia in offseasons before major injury to both.