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I'd deal for Sosa without hesitation. You'd give up nothing, he's making nothing, and if it doesn't work out, you've lost nothing.

 

The Cubs need to-for once-not put PR over a baseball decision. Sosa against LHP is a good baseball decision.

 

The second sentence sums it up.

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I'd deal for Sosa without hesitation. You'd give up nothing, he's making nothing, and if it doesn't work out, you've lost nothing.

 

The Cubs need to-for once-not put PR over a baseball decision. Sosa against LHP is a good baseball decision.

 

The second sentence sums it up.

 

Not that it's going to happen but the facts do support your case.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7072074

 

The Rangers aren't getting much interest in Sammy Sosa, but considering Sosa's performance against left-handed pitching, they probably should be.

 

Sosa entered Sunday's play with a 1.015 on-base/slugging percentage against lefties, the ninth highest in the American League.

 

The Twins' Torii Hunter, Tigers' Gary Sheffield, Angels' Vladimir Guerrero and White Sox's Paul Konerko were among the right-handed hitters who had a lower OPS than Sosa against lefties.

 

The Rangers want to trade Sosa to create playing time for Jason Botts

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This move makes so much sense. It needs to happen, unless Hendry enjoys seeing us get three-hit by every LHP on the planet.

 

We could probably send Texas nothing and get him. Lets put winning ahead of PR.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

Stupid Loser Sosa playing at a HOF level for us.

 

LOSER.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

Actually its because of LOSERS like Andy "I'm a worthless POS" McFa.ilure that the Cubs never won a WS during Sammy's tenure. He never opened the checkbook to get the needed pieces around Sammy. Lou Piniella hasn't changed any culture. McGarbage resigning and McDonoug giving Hendry the $$$$$ is what changed the culture for the Cubs.

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Sosa is a polarizing figure, he has his ardent supporters and detractors. There is no denying that his last days as a Cub were a disaster. I think Sosa shoulders that blame along with the organization.

 

He was a great player during his time in Chicago, there is no denying that. It was all downhill after the corked bat, and his weak excuse for it.

 

I think Sosa and the Cubs will one day re-unite, but I don't think he will ever play for them again.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

You know what would be great? If the selfless, angelic, perfectly content current Cubs could hit left handed pitching.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

You can't be serious.

 

This argument is absurd. Do you think that "loser" Sammy Sosa in his prime (1998-2002) would not help this team?

 

If you don't, I'm not sure what to say.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

Brainfart, was thinking that was in 2004.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

To be fair, things can go well and still be going downhill. Personally, though, I think it was Salomon Torres who started Sammy's downward slide, so to speak. He looked like the same old ridiculously good Sammy (rather than the still very productive Sammy of the rest of 2003 and 2004) before that.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

To be fair, things can go well and still be going downhill. Personally, though, I think it was Salomon Torres who started Sammy's downward slide, so to speak. He looked like the same old ridiculously good Sammy (rather than the still very productive Sammy of the rest of 2003 and 2004) before that.

 

Sosa was definitely sliding in 2003 before Torres hit him on Easter 2004. Torres may certainly have accelerated that slide, though.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

To be fair, things can go well and still be going downhill. Personally, though, I think it was Salomon Torres who started Sammy's downward slide, so to speak. He looked like the same old ridiculously good Sammy (rather than the still very productive Sammy of the rest of 2003 and 2004) before that.

 

Sosa was definitely sliding in 2003 before Torres hit him on Easter 2004. Torres may certainly have accelerated that slide, though.

 

That was Easter 2003.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

To be fair, things can go well and still be going downhill. Personally, though, I think it was Salomon Torres who started Sammy's downward slide, so to speak. He looked like the same old ridiculously good Sammy (rather than the still very productive Sammy of the rest of 2003 and 2004) before that.

 

Sosa was definitely sliding in 2003 before Torres hit him on Easter 2004. Torres may certainly have accelerated that slide, though.

 

Based on what?

 

Sosa in April 2003

 

.303/.446/.573/1.019

 

EDIT -

 

Sosa got hit in Easter 2003, not 2004.

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Yep, all downhill after the corked bat. Certainly nothing good happened to Sosa and the Cubs after June 3rd, 2003.

 

To be fair, things can go well and still be going downhill. Personally, though, I think it was Salomon Torres who started Sammy's downward slide, so to speak. He looked like the same old ridiculously good Sammy (rather than the still very productive Sammy of the rest of 2003 and 2004) before that.

 

Sosa was definitely sliding in 2003 before Torres hit him on Easter 2004. Torres may certainly have accelerated that slide, though.

 

That was Easter 2003.

 

You are correct, I don't know why I thought it was 2004 (maybe because the sneezing incident was a couple weeks after that in 2004).

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How do you know that there aren't selfish players on the current Cubs roster? Does someone on the team have to come out to the media to complain about it? Is it because no one waves to the camera after homering?
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I still can't believe people are blaming the Cubs failures of the past decade on Sammy. It is pretty clear that MacPhail was the main problem. It is funny how the Cubs never got any major external FA's...then immediatley after MacPhail leaves...the Cubs drop over 100M on FA's. Now I'm not trying to say that spending this kind of money is the cure all...but you can definelty "buy" your way to being competitve which is exactly what the Cubs have done this year.
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The whole notion of a selfish baseball player is ridiculous, anyway.

 

Baseball is a selfish sport by nature.

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The whole notion of a selfish baseball player is ridiculous, anyway.

 

Baseball is a selfish sport by nature.

 

Wait, so a game consisting of one on one matchups has an element of selfishness in it?

 

Unpossible. I'm going to say 500 Hail Ecksteins for your soul. May Joe Morgan have mercy on it.

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

You can't be serious.

 

This argument is absurd. Do you think that "loser" Sammy Sosa in his prime (1998-2002) would not help this team?

 

If you don't, I'm not sure what to say.

 

How many teams did he help in that period? How many times was LOSER Sammy in the playoffs?

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It's time to let go folks. He's never going to be a Cub again. Nothing he's done since leaving the Cubs, quite literally, warrants his return - no matter how quiet his yap has been since leaving.

 

He doesn't deserve to be on this team comprised of the anti-Sammy. These guys play good, sound baseball and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. That's what brought them back from 8.5 games. There's not a selfish player on this team.

 

LOU CHANGED THE CULTURE FOR A REASON. It's because of LOSERS like Sosa that this change was needed on the North Side. It's completely contradictory to think that Sammy makes any sense with this group of players or with the man who has led them to this point - and to me - it's a bit of an insult.

 

You can't be serious.

 

This argument is absurd. Do you think that "loser" Sammy Sosa in his prime (1998-2002) would not help this team?

 

If you don't, I'm not sure what to say.

 

 

 

How many teams did he help in that period? How many times was LOSER Sammy in the playoffs?

 

You are an...whoops I mean...That post is an idiot.

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