7/8 Cubs (ZAMBRANO) @ Pirates (YOUMAN), 12:35 CT CSN

[PrimeTime]

damn

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

The Pirates > The Cubs

[Shavo]

Eh, 4.5 GB is fine. Our power hitters really have to start jacking some though.

 

Actually, Aramis and Soriano have been. Its at D Lees feet. Having a guy who hits for a high average isnt bad if its a 2nd baseman but for a 1B playing in Wrigley Field...?

 

 

Floyd and/or Jones need to start hitting for power as well.

[Keener98]

Eh, 4.5 GB is fine. Our power hitters really have to start jacking some though.

 

Actually, Aramis and Soriano have been. Its at D Lees feet. Having a guy who hits for a high average isnt bad if its a 2nd baseman but for a 1B playing in Wrigley Field...?

 

Mark Grace?

 

What about him? I dont remember a lot of winning years when they had Grace.

 

I dont remember the talent surrounding Grace being anywhere close to what Lee has surrounding him

[UMFan83]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

 

On the other side, the Pirates went 5-2 against the Cubs and Brewers. Perhaps they will make a second half run too.

[TruffleShuffle]

http://www.thecubdom.com/images/graphics/loss_flag.gif

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Capps in to pitch for Pittsburgh

Ramirez doubled to left field

DeRosa struck out swinging

Fontenot flied out to center field

Pagan flied out to shallow center field

 

0 runs 1 hits 0 errors 1 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0              2  7  1
Pittsburgh      0 0 3 0 0 0 0 3                6  8  0

 

W: Youman (2-0)

S: none

L: Zambrano (10-7)

 

T: 2;23

A: 22,470

 

Home runs:

CUBS: none

Pittsburgh: Bay (13)

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Zambrano      7.0  4  3  3  3  5  1 123
Howry         1.0  4  3  3  0  0  0  20

 

Pittsburgh     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Youman        6.0  6  2  2  2  1  0  91
Chacon        2.0  0  0  0  0  1  0  19
Capps         1.0  1  0  0  0  1  0  11

Edited July 8, 2007 by Fred Hornkohl

[Chocolate Milk]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

Wow. Tough crowd.

[Fred Hornkohl]

                  CUBS      Pittsburgh
P/PA              3.56            4.21
RBI%              0.14            0.38
R/BR              0.22            0.50
BA               0.233           0.267
OBP              0.290           0.364
SLG              0.300           0.367
OPS              0.590           0.730
ERA               6.75            1.00
BB/9              3.38            2.00
K/9               5.63            3.00

[Fred Hornkohl]

Sunday 08 July 2007

CUBS @ Pittsburgh

12:35

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0              2  7  1
Pittsburgh      0 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 x              6  8  0



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Soriano       lf       4   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Theriot       ss       1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Lee           1b       4   1   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ramirez       3b       4   1   2   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   1   0   1   0   0   0   0
DeRosa        rf       4   0   2   1   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Fontenot      2b       4   0   1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pagan         cf       3   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0
K Hill        c        3   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0
Zambrano      p        3   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Howry         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                30   2   7   2   2   3  12   0   0   1   1   1   2   0   0   1   0



Pittsburgh
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
McLouth       cf       3   1   1   0   1   1   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Sanchez       2b       4   1   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
LaRoche       1b       3   1   1   0   1   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Nady          cf       3   2   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Bay           lf       4   1   2   4   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Bautista      3b       3   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0
Paulino       c        3   0   0   0   1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wilson        ss       4   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Youman        p        2   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Chacon        p        1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Capps         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                30   6   8   6   3   5   8   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   1   1



CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Zambrano         7.0   4   3   3   3   5   1  123
Howry            1.0   4   3   3   0   0   0   20

totals           8.0   8   6   6   3   5   1  143


Pittsburgh
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Youman           6.0   6   2   2   2   1   0   91
Chacon           2.0   0   0   0   0   1   0   19
Capps            1.0   1   0   0   0   1   0   11

totals           9.0   7   2   2   2   3   0  121



Home runs:
CUBS: none
Pittsburgh: Bay (13)

W: Youman (2-0)
S: none
L: Zambrano (10-7)

T: 2;23
A: 22,470

Edited July 8, 2007 by Fred Hornkohl

[Flames24Rulz]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

Wow. Tough crowd.

 

Can't really get too excited about a 4-3 trip against the likes of the Nationals and the Pirates.

[TruffleShuffle]

catcher tony richie has two homers for iowa... i think the two worst-hitting catchers in the organization are on chicago

[CubColtPacer]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

 

On the other side, the Pirates went 5-2 against the Cubs and Brewers. Perhaps they will make a second half run too.

 

7-0 or 6-1 on the road is an unrealistic expectation-I said that before the trip started. Look to how many teams in the NL. It's not easy to even win 7 out of 10 (before today, the Cubs were the only team in the NL to have a 7-3 record or better in their last 10 games). If we were at home against these two teams, then maybe 6-1, but on the road the highest I think one can expect is 5-2. Add in the fact the Cubs faced 3 left-handers this week, and the expectation probably goes down to 4-3, and that's exactly what they did (beat the 4 right-handers, lose to the 3 left-handers).

[turn2]

Eh, 4.5 GB is fine. Our power hitters really have to start jacking some though.

 

Actually, Aramis and Soriano have been. Its at D Lees feet. Having a guy who hits for a high average isnt bad if its a 2nd baseman but for a 1B playing in Wrigley Field...?

 

Mark Grace?

 

What about him? I dont remember a lot of winning years when they had Grace.

 

I dont remember the talent surrounding Grace being anywhere close to what Lee has surrounding him

 

OK, so youre acknowledging that theres a matter of degree. I agree. Its about run production whether its timely RBI or HRs. Id take Aramis' .302 and 15 HRs over D Lees .340 and 6 HRs. And actually, Aramis has numbers thats more in line with what youd expect from a 1B than D Lee.

[CubColtPacer]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

Wow. Tough crowd.

 

Can't really get too excited about a 4-3 trip against the likes of the Nationals and the Pirates.

 

It's not exciting, but it's not terrible either. It's just kind of there.

[Chocolate Milk]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

Wow. Tough crowd.

 

Can't really get too excited about a 4-3 trip against the likes of the Nationals and the Pirates.

 

Who said to get excited? Pretty hard to complain about how things have got the last 3 weeks. I'm sure people will find reason to.

[Butterscup1679666578]

End of April: Cubs – 6th place, 5.5 gb, 4 under .500

End of May: Cubs – T-4th place, 6.5 gb, 7 under .500

End of June: Cubs – 2nd place, 7.5 gb, 1 under .500

All-Star Break: Cubs – 2nd place, 4.5 gb, 1 over .500

 

 

Let's keep it going into the second half. Brewers are a team we should catch and pass. This division is ours.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

Wow. Tough crowd.

 

Can't really get too excited about a 4-3 trip against the likes of the Nationals and the Pirates.

 

It's not exciting, but it's not terrible either. It's just kind of there.

 

It beats a losing record on the trip. Also, it worked out considering that the Cubs left for the trip with a tired bullpen even though Marquis definitely helped give the bullpen a little bit of rest on Sunday against the Brewers.

[Guest]

I'll take the road trip, wish it would have been better. Actually, I wish the Cubs could just get to 3 games over.

[Keener98]

Eh, 4.5 GB is fine. Our power hitters really have to start jacking some though.

 

Actually, Aramis and Soriano have been. Its at D Lees feet. Having a guy who hits for a high average isnt bad if its a 2nd baseman but for a 1B playing in Wrigley Field...?

 

Mark Grace?

 

What about him? I dont remember a lot of winning years when they had Grace.

 

I dont remember the talent surrounding Grace being anywhere close to what Lee has surrounding him

 

OK, so youre acknowledging that theres a matter of degree. I agree. Its about run production whether its timely RBI or HRs. Id take Aramis' .302 and 15 HRs over D Lees .340 and 6 HRs. And actually, Aramis has numbers thats more in line with what youd expect from a 1B than D Lee.

 

D Lee has a .895 OPS and Aram has a .908 not alot of difference really. This team can win with DLee doing what hes doing, but him starting to hit HR's again, or adding another power bat into the lineup would make it alot easier.

[98navigator]

We were talking about going 7-0 or 6-1 on this road trip...and we went 4-3. Looks like the typical Cubs that we know and hate are back.

 

 

On the other side, the Pirates went 5-2 against the Cubs and Brewers. Perhaps they will make a second half run too.

 

I'm not sure what typical Cubs means... Predicting 7-0 or 6-1 was unrealistic. I was hoping for 5-2 but, all things considered, I'll take a 4-3 road trip.

 

People will bemoan losing to Maholm and Youman but they both have pitched decently. Maholm is 4-0 in his career against the Cubs so it's not necessarily a flaw of this 2007 team that they haven't been able to get to him. Also, we all made fun of Shane Youman but give him credit as well, he shut both the Cubs and Brewers down in his first two starts of the year...

 

For all the people that say "at least the Brewers lost to Snell and Gorzelanny...," don't forget that Youman also beat them and they lost to Simontacchi and Redding in WSH (both of whom lost to the Cubs).

 

The Brewers went 3-7 on their 10 game road trip (losing 2 of 3 to the Cubs, 3 of 4 to the Pirates, and 2 of 3 to the Nationals).

 

The Cubs are 6-4 during the same time period. Today's series loss is disappointing but the Cubs aren't playing poorly overall.

[TysonCBulls423]

yeah cheer up guys and gals Cubs are in a playoff run! When's the last time we could say that!?!

[TruffleShuffle]

D Lee has a .895 OPS and Aram has a .908 not alot of difference really. This team can win with DLee doing what hes doing, but him starting to hit HR's again, or adding another power bat into the lineup would make it alot easier.

 

Lee has a .406 BABIP, which is the highest in the NL. When his luck normalizes, there will be a pretty sizable difference between his production and ARam's production.

[Keener98]

D Lee has a .895 OPS and Aram has a .908 not alot of difference really. This team can win with DLee doing what hes doing, but him starting to hit HR's again, or adding another power bat into the lineup would make it alot easier.

 

Lee has a .406 BABIP, which is the highest in the NL. When his luck normalizes, there will be a pretty sizable difference between his production and ARam's production.

 

But hasnt he had a high BABIP since joining the Cubs? I know not that high, but still high ?

[Drew Doughty]

D Lee has a .895 OPS and Aram has a .908 not alot of difference really. This team can win with DLee doing what hes doing, but him starting to hit HR's again, or adding another power bat into the lineup would make it alot easier.

 

Lee has a .406 BABIP, which is the highest in the NL. When his luck normalizes, there will be a pretty sizable difference between his production and ARam's production.

 

But hasnt he had a high BABIP since joining the Cubs? I know not that high, but still high ?

 

he had a high babip in 2005, but it was at least somewhat appropriate given his batted ball data.

 

he's pretty much hitting the ball like he did pre-breakout. except he's not hitting home runs. he's due for a huge regression.